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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 26, 2013 1:27:07 GMT -5
Maybe since the word unification wasn't used both men will grab a title. That would suck. Either Unify the belts or let Cena keep the WHC forever. Cena shouldn't be in the spotlight anymore, and Orton is just going to be the big fish in a small pond if he wins the WHC. It's confirmed (wwe.com), that it's a title vs title match... That's a unification match. |
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Post by Chip on Nov 26, 2013 1:34:11 GMT -5
They unified titles at Vengeance before, so why is them doing so at TLC so strange? It feels like unifying both world titles should be a huge huge deal and as such, should be on a big PPV. Having something as big as unifying the titles happen on a minor PPV with a months build seems questionable. Having it happen before on a minor PPV doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea. That would suck. Either Unify the belts or let Cena keep the WHC forever. Cena shouldn't be in the spotlight anymore, and Orton is just going to be the big fish in a small pond if he wins the WHC. It's confirmed (wwe.com), that it's a title vs title match... That's a unification match. Not always, unless my brain if f***ing with me Ultimate Warrior didn't unify the IC and WWE titles, right? |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 26, 2013 1:42:50 GMT -5
They unified titles at Vengeance before, so why is them doing so at TLC so strange? It feels like unifying both world titles should be a huge huge deal and as such, should be on a big PPV. Having something as big as unifying the titles happen on a minor PPV with a months build seems questionable. Having it happen before on a minor PPV doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea. It's confirmed (wwe.com), that it's a title vs title match... That's a unification match. Not always, unless my brain if f***ing with me Ultimate Warrior didn't unify the IC and WWE titles, right? But since it DID happen at Vengeance, I think they pretty much HAVE to do this Unification at TLC, because it's like an "anniversary" of sorts. Not to mention the WCW version of the title was a much bigger deal than the current World Title, so why should this unification happen at WM? Different time and different circumstances. In kayfabe, the World and WWE Titles are supposedly equal, the WWE and IC Titles weren't. The IC Title was solidly acknowledged as a stepping stone to the top prize. While the WHC was treated that way in recent years, we're supposed to suspend disbelief and think that the people holding and contending for that belt are equal to the guys holding and contending for the WWE Title even if they don't have as much star power. |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 26, 2013 2:18:37 GMT -5
It's confirmed (wwe.com), that it's a title vs title match... That's a unification match. Not always, unless my brain if f***ing with me Ultimate Warrior didn't unify the IC and WWE titles, right? He did unify them, for a moment, until it was announced by Tunney that he was forced to relinquish the IC title. Here's the definition for the unimformed: UNIFICATION- Occurs when a champion holds (any) two belts (or more). UNDISPUTED- Occurs when there is no major body around to dispute the claim of a single title ie: World Champion. (The jury is still out on whether TNA or ROH's dispute of that counts). |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 26, 2013 4:03:11 GMT -5
I just realized that tonight Triple H booked the match to possibly retire the title that was brought back for him. Then he'll unretire it in a month and bring back Eric Bischoff to award to him. And then he'll never defend it. |
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Post by mizerable on Nov 26, 2013 4:25:08 GMT -5
Lord...I never understood the love for the European title. There was very few times when it was interesting, and that was mostly due to someone tying a gimmick to it. The US title at least has merit as a title that helped propel some wrestlers into the main event. When did the European title ever do that? JBL? The U.S. Title had that merit because It was traditionally an upper midcard title on par with the Intercontinental Championship. I'm saying that WWE should use its own titles rather than treat the U.S. Title as a lesser championship as a reminder that WWE > WCW. The U.S. Title deserves to go out on a high note. There are guys that I want to see pushed and get a chance at a midcard title, but with them winning the U.S. Title, you risk the chance of them getting fan backlash because someone will complain about them "dragging the title down" and that's not fair to them. We saw that with Santino, and he was red hot and mega over when he won it. I'd rather someone drag a title down, as opposed to be given a useless title. Hell, the US title doesn't have to even be secondary to the IC title (although that would be my preference). But it could be an alternative. What's wrong with that? At least in a kayfabe sense, it almost acts as a means for someone to shoot for one or the other when starting out...but you don't have a choice with something like the WWE title...you're all in or nothing. |
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Post by Boo! on Nov 26, 2013 4:36:46 GMT -5
Having one roster and two world champions makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Never has. At one point we had two world champs, two middle-ranked champs, a Diva's championship, a Women's champion, ECW champ and a Cruiserweight title.
If having two world champs makes sense, why not three? Why not five? Why not have a world champ for every hour of programming? I know belts don't mean much these days but the champ is supposed to be 'the man'. It devalues the appeal of the belt if there's another 'da man' on the same show.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 26, 2013 5:04:20 GMT -5
Until I hear them utter the term "Undisputed Champion", I'm agreeing with the theory that WWE is going to do a stupid 'each guy grabs a belt finish', thus negating the whole thing entirely and wasting everyone's time. My B.S. detector is going off in that they purposely tried as hard as they could to not suggest that we'll just have one unified, undisputed champion afterwards, opting instead to say simply that both belts were up for grabs.
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Post by Bo Rida on Nov 26, 2013 7:38:08 GMT -5
Maybe Randy will win both belts but defend them separately, that way he gets at least two feuds a month and we get to see him defend a title twice on every PPV from now until WM.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 26, 2013 8:32:43 GMT -5
My ideal situation in regards to championships would still be two world championships, but split by weight division and general match style. A WWE World Heavyweight Championship (over 225 lbs) would have matches based around mostly hard-hitting brawls (like the type that Sheamus busted out in the past with guys like Cesaro and Tensai) and general WWE style while a WWE World Light-Heavyweight Championship (under 225 lbs) would have matches based around mostly crazy athleticism and technical stuff. The caveat being that, and I can't emphasise this enough, THEY GET TREATED EXACTLY EQUALLY. If a heavyweight division match or segment closes out RAW or a PPV one week, a light-heavyweight division match or segment closes out the next RAW or PPV.
It'd never happen, but I think it would be awesome if it did.
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Post by JTG Fan on Nov 26, 2013 10:45:17 GMT -5
The word unification has yet to be used.
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Post by percymania on Dec 1, 2013 0:56:00 GMT -5
I just realized that tonight Triple H booked the match to possibly retire the title that was brought back for him. Then he'll unretire it in a month and bring back Eric Bischoff to award to him. And then he'll never defend it. Bischoff will book a HISTORIC FIRST TIME EVER 64 man tournament in the WWE to decide the #1 contender to the WWE Title. This tournament will fall apart by round two and eventually be forgotten about. |
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Dec 1, 2013 1:10:10 GMT -5
My ideal situation in regards to championships would still be two world championships, but split by weight division and general match style. A WWE World Heavyweight Championship (over 225 lbs) would have matches based around mostly hard-hitting brawls (like the type that Sheamus busted out in the past with guys like Cesaro and Tensai) and general WWE style while a WWE World Light-Heavyweight Championship (under 225 lbs) would have matches based around mostly crazy athleticism and technical stuff. The caveat being that, and I can't emphasise this enough, THEY GET TREATED EXACTLY EQUALLY. If a heavyweight division match or segment closes out RAW or a PPV one week, a light-heavyweight division match or segment closes out the next RAW or PPV. It'd never happen, but I think it would be awesome if it did. You just described TNA between 2004 and 2007 (Yes I'm aware that there were no weight limits, but the only exceptions were Siaki and Joe) |
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 1, 2013 1:12:32 GMT -5
WWE, IC, Tag, and Divas
That's all they need.
This unification should have happened years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2013 1:18:42 GMT -5
Best thing about a title unification is after Del Rio gets his inevitable one more feud for the title, he's finally going to be depushed.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 1, 2013 1:20:32 GMT -5
Del Rio should create the Million Peso Belt
I don't know exchange rates, but I imagine that would be about $50
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Post by Welfare Willis on Dec 1, 2013 2:32:17 GMT -5
In a world where no one likes either world champion
JOHN CENA
"You can't see me"
Randy Orton
Ï'm going to the papers!"
TITLE UNIFICATION.
Because no one believes the world champion is level with the WWE champion.
Rated B for boring.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 1, 2013 6:34:05 GMT -5
Then he'll unretire it in a month and bring back Eric Bischoff to award to him. And then he'll never defend it. Bischoff will book a HISTORIC FIRST TIME EVER 64 man tournament in the WWE to decide the #1 contender to the WWE Title. This tournament will fall apart by round two and eventually be forgotten about. That's more Vinny Ru than Bischy Baby. |
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Post by papagiorgio on Dec 1, 2013 10:12:50 GMT -5
I'm guessing they'll have some sort of screwy finish where they both grab a belt and remain champions.
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 1, 2013 10:25:28 GMT -5
They may end up going the Jerich route; whoever wins will carry both belts around with him for a while, and eventually one of them will be quietly dropped. In retrospect the unveiling of the current WWE title belt may have been part of such a grand scheme all along. I'm a bit more interested to know if this means the US and IC titles will eventually be merged as well.
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