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Post by DoubleDare on Nov 25, 2013 7:01:29 GMT -5
Trust me, this isn't anywhere close to being a low point. Just because the main event storylines are a little crappy, we still have some great workers on the roster. You're pretty much guaranteed 1-3 great TV matches every week. Go watch a few Raw's from summer 1995, then come back. Actually on youtube, and other sites while you can find raws from any period....summer 95 there is non, you can find up to spring 95......summer 95 mustve been pretty horrible lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 7:27:09 GMT -5
They could still fix this by tomorrow if they wanted to by putting Punk and Bryan back in the main event. But they won't. They should book a best of 7 number one contender series between Punk & Bryan. Has it been 7 years since Booker & Benoit? It's been 9 since Booker & Cena had the same series over the US Title.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Nov 25, 2013 7:31:11 GMT -5
1993-1996 was pretty bad. 1993 supposely was their worst year business -wise. You know this may be a bad metaphor but it seems like WCW during its heyday. You got a talented group of midcarders and an established group of headliners. However the metaphor falls apart when you realize that Cena not the politican Hogan was. I think it's frustrating for fans like us several years after Nexus and Punk's infamous promo that it feels like a step back.
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Post by Sparkybob on Nov 25, 2013 7:32:50 GMT -5
I usually compares PPV's to the Great American Bash 04 to see if it's truely the worst I've ever seen.
All I can say about Survivor series is that it didn't end with a person burying the tag team champs and then trapping a man in cement.
So......progress?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 9:06:50 GMT -5
I usually compares PPV's to the Great American Bash 04 to see if it's truely the worst I've ever seen. All I can say about Survivor series is that it didn't end with a person burying the tag team champs and then trapping a man in cement. So......progress? Oh dang, that was what sworn me off buying non-WM PPVs ever again. Talk about selective amnesia: if I don't remember it, it didn't happen.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Nov 25, 2013 9:46:15 GMT -5
I dread that it can truly get worse than where we are right now...and I have no doubt that it more than likely will on Raw. Every single time this year when a PPV gets panned, it gets followed immediately by a RAW Episode of the Year candidate. I have a feeling this trend will continue.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Nov 25, 2013 9:47:52 GMT -5
Does it really matter who's in the main event? I got to see Punk and Bryan in my personal MOTN, and didn't pay attention to Orton/Show. It would have been like that regardless of the match order. And really, that's all that this "x should be main eventing" chatter is: bitching about the match order. It's not like Big Show is getting significantly more TV time than Punk and Bryan.
I do understand the complaining about Ziggler though. They're absolutely wasting him by not giving him more to do.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 25, 2013 10:30:14 GMT -5
I know that from Mid August to now my interest in WWE has been at its lowest since I started watching again in Dec. 2009. Pretty much this. I took years off of watching, came back around right around the same time, & have been entertained by most of what's happened since then. But the past three months, I find my interest to be waning, big time. I watch less of Raw each week, and don't care if I'm missing parts of PPV's. Sorry Triple H apologists, but your boy is flat out boring, and ruins good stories by injecting himself into them. The current onscreen product is a mess.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Nov 25, 2013 10:37:16 GMT -5
Back since the brand split, there was usually only one show that was any good at a time. Usually it was Smackdown, and usually it was when they were focusing super intently on Raw. For a while it was ECW, back when it was the C-show.
Right now, you want TV that's as good as the WWE has ever been? Watch NXT. So much depends on Vince not paying any attention to a show. That's when it blossoms.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 25, 2013 10:55:54 GMT -5
it's pretty lame, and they need to get Orton and Show out of the main event, but it's still nowhere near as bad as Katie Vick, which is in my opinion the absolute nadir of terrible ideas on a wrestling program.
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Post by kamero00 on Nov 25, 2013 21:14:23 GMT -5
umm the crowd has crapped all over 3 segments now. RAW is only a 3rd over. THIS is the new low point. eck
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Post by unc40 on Nov 26, 2013 0:06:18 GMT -5
Oh Kamero00 if I could only go back a couple of hours in time and tell you this week's RAW doesn't get any better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 0:38:06 GMT -5
Titus O'Neil can't hiptoss Michael Strahan, but Michael Strahan can hiptoss Titus O'Neil. Insert "stiff" joke from Miz.
That was a low point.
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Post by Lancers on Nov 26, 2013 0:49:57 GMT -5
I'm more embarrassed to be watching wrestling now then ever before. Like if my mother came over to visit, I would rather for her to see scat porn involving Polish war widows on my television screen then wrestling.
It wouldn't be the second time that's happened.
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Post by Spider2024 on Nov 26, 2013 1:55:21 GMT -5
Raw was once headlined by Mo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 1:56:59 GMT -5
I was just talking about this today....thank goodness NXT is still fun, but WWE is starting to put the stranglehold on the midcard which had been the saving grace of the show for some time.
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Post by celticjobber on Nov 26, 2013 2:00:12 GMT -5
I was just talking about this today....thank goodness NXT is still fun, but WWE is starting to put the stranglehold on the midcard which had been the saving grace of the show for some time. IMO WWE is the closest they've ever been to 1995-levels of suck than I can remember since that year of televised hell. Even the 4 or 5 wrestlers I watch RAW for are bogged down in feuds that I either don't care about or that I'm getting tired of.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 26, 2013 2:13:37 GMT -5
The thing about the New Generation lull era is that it was the calm before the storm. It was the bridge between Hulkamania and the Monday Night War. ECW was starting to brew with a new radical style, WCW was in the process of building its roster by raiding the WWF, and WWF realised major changes were required. So there was a lot going on, and it ended up leading to a second golden era.
Now, it's just the status quo and nothing on the horizon to suggest anything will change for the better. The company is content to be in a holding pattern, and as long as they are still profitable, there's no real reason to change it, however dull and boring it might appear. It basically pleases enough people, especially the little kids, which is why I've always advocated the creation of a subsidiary WWE brand that would be nominally independent to cater to the older demographic, especially males who have dumped WWE for UFC.
It would be the Touchstone Pictures to WWE's Disney
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