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Post by kamero00 on Nov 25, 2013 1:04:05 GMT -5
I can't recall such a terribly received main event. The WWE is clearly out of touch with their fans. No one wanted to see those two in the main event. Cena, Bryan, and Punk are clearly the top guys, yet they were all on lower profile matches.
Has there been any other points in time that have been this bad?
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Post by celticjobber on Nov 25, 2013 1:07:53 GMT -5
Some things were better, but others were much worse around 1995 or so.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 25, 2013 1:10:16 GMT -5
The match quality seems to be exactly inverse to the story quality right now.
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Post by kidglov3s on Nov 25, 2013 1:15:10 GMT -5
Some things were better, but others were much worse around 1995 or so. I remember how excited I was after Survivor Series 1995, when Bret won the tite, Ahmed slammed Yoko, there was that cool women's match, the fun wild card match, the opening with Jannetty/123 Kid being great. It seemed like such a sea change, finally things were set right and Bret was the guy again.  Didn't last long though. |
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Post by kamero00 on Nov 25, 2013 1:15:30 GMT -5
The match quality seems to be exactly inverse to the story quality right now. WTF is there thinking at times? Del Rio has not been over in a year now. "Yeah Ziggler put's on 5 star matches, gets a reaction and is gaining momentum, but Del Rio is Mexican. So lets make him champ again!". |
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Post by mizerable on Nov 25, 2013 1:18:35 GMT -5
The match quality seems to be exactly inverse to the story quality right now. That's a big one right there. I love match quality as much as the next guy...I really truly do. And WWE has been providing some great matches in recent months, a lot of which happen to fall on free TV. In the meantime, the writing is absolute shit, so I can't blame the wrestlers since they're busting their asses. In a way, I almost want to blame what DID happen in the mid 90's. You had guys who were such marks, they wanted to go out there and give the fans a good show night after night. The problem is, you sometimes HAVE to let the talking and the bullshit dictate the wrestling. The wrestling really needs to be what people are paying to see. Everything else should be building towards that payday. Instead, you have a bunch of matches that have no story, no build up...and even worse yet, the same guys wrestling on the PPV who have already wrestled twice that week on free TV. Why should I pay? I'm not saying to get rid of the wrestling on the free shows. It should always be there. Use those matches to have undercard guys perform. Still provide segments with the big names. Sound familiar? They did that for years. And it worked. Right now, you have a tired system that needs to desperately revamped due to the priorities of how much product they're trying to push. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 25, 2013 1:20:45 GMT -5
1993-1996 was pretty bad.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 1:21:43 GMT -5
To think that right now if we only had the creative team from 2000.
Ziggler would be world champion
Dbry would be WWE champion
Sandow would be in a blood feud with Ziggler
and Punk and Bryan would be having absoloute classics
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Post by mizerable on Nov 25, 2013 1:24:08 GMT -5
and Punk and Bryan would be having absoloute classics Maybe on PPV, but in 2000 free TV...they'd be lucky to get 8 minutes and a non-DQ finish. |
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Post by kidglov3s on Nov 25, 2013 1:24:09 GMT -5
To think that right now if we only had the creative team from 2000. Ziggler would be world champion Dbry would be WWE champion Sandow would be in a blood feud with Ziggler and Punk and Bryan would be having absoloute classics And the sad thing is that like, this year, they had great moments with those guys. Ziggler at Payback and the Raw after Wrestlemania (both of which I was fortunate enough to see live), Bryan at Summerslam, Punk in those awesome segments both as an absurd heel and in his feud with Heyman, etc. But they never followed through on any of that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 1:25:37 GMT -5
It's pretty bad right now mainly because things were going well over the Summer until the Authority showed up and the writing got stuck in a Portajohn, rolled down a hill, fell off of a cliff, exploded but somehow stayed in one piece, landed in a river, went over a waterfall and then disappeared in a sea vortex. When one compares now to then it looks even worse.
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Post by JTG Fan on Nov 25, 2013 1:34:33 GMT -5
The main event was trash, but it's hardly a low point in WWE history.
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Post by kamero00 on Nov 25, 2013 1:51:55 GMT -5
The main event was trash, but it's hardly a low point in WWE history. Everyone else disagrees. |
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Post by kidglov3s on Nov 25, 2013 1:54:42 GMT -5
I know that from Mid August to now my interest in WWE has been at its lowest since I started watching again in Dec. 2009.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 2:04:20 GMT -5
I dread that it can truly get worse than where we are right now...and I have no doubt that it more than likely will on Raw.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 25, 2013 2:59:02 GMT -5
I dread that it can truly get worse than where we are right now...and I have no doubt that it more than likely will on Raw. They could still fix this by tomorrow if they wanted to by putting Punk and Bryan back in the main event. But they won't. |
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Post by kevin on Nov 25, 2013 3:08:20 GMT -5
The main event was trash, but it's hardly a low point in WWE history. I could not watch so i have no idea if it was bad or not but now is so better than any time duing the 00's with the exception of 2000. much better than the early mid 90's. I think the low point was the invasion, i felt like after buying wcw they just stopped trying for a very long time and I stopped watching for years because of how bad that was. Right now at most this was a bad payperview. There have been entire years when WWE was barely watchable. Its pretty absurd to think right now is a low point. |
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Post by thegame415 on Nov 25, 2013 3:09:30 GMT -5
Trust me, this isn't anywhere close to being a low point. Just because the main event storylines are a little crappy, we still have some great workers on the roster. You're pretty much guaranteed 1-3 great TV matches every week.
Go watch a few Raw's from summer 1995, then come back.
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Post by cool guy on Nov 25, 2013 3:32:30 GMT -5
Honestly, I've really enjoyed RAW since The Authority took over, it's just that the PPVs have all been duds.
I mean, I like most of the stories going on (at least when they don't involve Big Show), but the payoffs have been awful.
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Nov 25, 2013 3:48:12 GMT -5
I dread that it can truly get worse than where we are right now...and I have no doubt that it more than likely will on Raw. They could still fix this by tomorrow if they wanted to by putting Punk and Bryan back in the main event. But they won't. They should book a best of 7 number one contender series between Punk & Bryan. Has it been 7 years since Booker & Benoit? |
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Didn't last long though.
