mrbananagrabber
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Nov 26, 2013 17:44:28 GMT -5
I'd seen him a couple of times on NXT but he didn't really register. I've only seen him twice and already I can't stand him. Do we really need another dancing fool? Oh, but this one sticks his tongue out while he's doing it . A lot. Great.
Decent in the ring, yes, but man he's irritating.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 17:48:05 GMT -5
I swear I should do something about the "Three Faces of the Black Wrestler."
The Dancin' Fool. The High Flyer. The Brute.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 17:49:52 GMT -5
I kind of agree. Whatever happened to not bringing someone up until they have something good for them? Because hanging out with R-Truth isn't really going to accomplish much.
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Post by mrjl on Nov 26, 2013 17:52:33 GMT -5
I swear I should do something about the "Three Faces of the Black Wrestler." The Dancin' Fool. The High Flyer. The Brute. plenty of white guys who qualify that way too
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Post by ratetankmark on Nov 26, 2013 17:52:48 GMT -5
Weren't people like Too Cool also 'Dancing Fools' and yet no-one found them annoying?
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klapaucius
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Post by klapaucius on Nov 26, 2013 17:54:02 GMT -5
I totally agree.
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Post by deancubed on Nov 26, 2013 17:54:54 GMT -5
Any non-Samoan wrestlers that don't fall into those categories if they are black?
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Nov 26, 2013 17:54:56 GMT -5
Weren't people like Too Cool also 'Dancing Fools' and yet no-one found them annoying? I barely tolerated them, and a lot of people hated them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 17:57:17 GMT -5
plenty of white guys who qualify that way too Nah, man. When you've got a slew of white wrestlers in comparison it's literally not a problem. Then you've got dudes who don't quite fall into any of those categories, like JTG, then WWE wants to act like it's literally impossible to book you in anything.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 26, 2013 17:59:13 GMT -5
He's doomed. Brought in with no hype and introduced to an audience who have no reason to care.
And of course JBL's oh-so-helpful commentary won't help
"What if he flops???"
Piss off
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Post by Spearmint* on Nov 26, 2013 18:02:45 GMT -5
I swear I should do something about the "Three Faces of the Black Wrestler." The Dancin' Fool. The High Flyer. The Brute. ALL THREE BABY!
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Post by mrjl on Nov 26, 2013 18:05:07 GMT -5
plenty of white guys who qualify that way too Nah, man. When you've got a slew of white wrestlers in comparison it's literally not a problem. Then you've got dudes who don't quite fall into any of those categories, like JTG, then WWE wants to act like it's literally impossible to book you in anything. Shelton Benjamin and MVP didn't fit in that.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Nov 26, 2013 18:06:14 GMT -5
Over 9000 times so.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 26, 2013 18:07:37 GMT -5
Weren't people like Too Cool also 'Dancing Fools' and yet no-one found them annoying? now slow down there. i made sure my remote was always within reach for whenever they were on the screen.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Nov 26, 2013 18:12:43 GMT -5
I swear I should do something about the "Three Faces of the Black Wrestler." The Dancin' Fool. The High Flyer. The Brute. plenty of white guys who qualify that way too Yes, but the point is more that these are the only character types that black wrestlers in today's WWE can be. For example: Dancer: Xavier Woods, R-Truth, Brodus Clay, Naomi, Cameron, Darren Young*, Titus O'Neil*, Booker T*. High Flyer: Xavier Woods, R-Truth, Kofi Kingston, JTG. Brute: Mark Henry, Big E. Langston, Ezekial Jackson. Darren Young and Titus O'Neil aren't properly 'dancing gimmicks', but they do dance, the "Millions of Dollars" move, which is probably the most identifiable thing about their gimmick. Same thing, sadly, with Booker T: he's more likely to be known for his catchphrase and the spinaroonie rather than his in-ring talent. David Otunga is a complete afterthought given how WWE's treated him, but he at least doesn't fit these molds. Neither does the Rock, but he's no longer on the roster, so that point's moot. Alicia Fox also doesn't fit these categories, but she's barely on TV to even develop a thumbnail sketch of a character. Heck, even Kharma would fit the 'brute' category when she used to be around.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 26, 2013 18:13:16 GMT -5
Xavier Woods should be in title hunts already. THAT's the kind of personality a babyface should have.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 18:14:44 GMT -5
Shelton Benjamin and MVP didn't fit in that. Right. MVP was like JTG in that he didn't easily fit into those molds with his wrestling either. Much like JTG they stopped giving a shit with booking him too. Yeah, I read the dirtsheet reasoning on why MVP got in the doghouse, but it never passed the smell test. Shelton didn't start out as a high-flyer, but that's ultimately the box he got shoved into. This isn't an exact science, you know? But yeah...
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Nov 26, 2013 18:14:53 GMT -5
Nah, man. When you've got a slew of white wrestlers in comparison it's literally not a problem. Then you've got dudes who don't quite fall into any of those categories, like JTG, then WWE wants to act like it's literally impossible to book you in anything. Shelton Benjamin and MVP didn't fit in that. Because, at least in Shelton's case he was the victim of the "Fourth" Black WWE Superstar Stereotype: Natural Athelete
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 26, 2013 18:15:01 GMT -5
Nah, man. When you've got a slew of white wrestlers in comparison it's literally not a problem. Then you've got dudes who don't quite fall into any of those categories, like JTG, then WWE wants to act like it's literally impossible to book you in anything. Shelton Benjamin and MVP didn't fit in that. Shelton could fit into high flyer. Everyone was always waiting to see what crazy spot he would do in MITB. MVP might be the exception to the rule. Elijah Burke too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 18:15:14 GMT -5
Weren't people like Too Cool also 'Dancing Fools' and yet no-one found them annoying? I barely tolerated them, and a lot of people hated them. To be fair they were indeed a heel turn before being Too Cool. They were goofy loser jerks, the same way 3MB are right now in many regards, and got a lot of face momentum from Rikishi being with them.
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