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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 21:44:31 GMT -5
You're the guy that's posted a buncha pics of you with divas. Get one of you with her and give a thumbs up. I fully intend to one of these days Eva is a pro I think you could get a boob grab in too. Not like a full on grab, but just something chill you know? Then we could admire you. like that gif of christi hemme where this creepy fat dude grabbed her ass rofl.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Nov 26, 2013 22:25:27 GMT -5
Total Divas is the Bellas show. Eva Marie and Jojo are supporting characters.
Eva and Jojo are getting the rocket push because the show got good ratings on E!, and WWE is incredibly insecure about being a "wrasslin' company", so they'll push ANYTHING that gets into the mainstream.
They can't wrestle worth a lick. I will agree to that.
Do I "hate" them? Nah, man. Nah. I might even sort of like the fact that they can't wrestle in a detached, watching ironically sort of way.
There are many females deserving to be on the WWE roster. I'd trade all the Total Divas put together for Rebecca Knox on RAW. But life's not fair.
Also, Eva doesn't even top 10 best looking Divas.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 26, 2013 22:30:29 GMT -5
I say again, WWE made a massive mistake cross-promoting Total Divas on RAW. The two are not compatible.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Nov 26, 2013 22:59:06 GMT -5
Imagine how boring Total Divas would've been if they had it when Eve was in WWE. God what a boring woman. .......shut up.
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Post by Phil Parent on Nov 26, 2013 23:05:40 GMT -5
Never watched Total Divas. Thinking Eva Marie would be better with a less phony hair color. Thinking JoJo would be fine as an early Apple Miyuki-type comedy act because of her size and the fact that she looks about as threatening as a roll of toilet paper. IF she can learn how to take a bump.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Nov 26, 2013 23:19:56 GMT -5
I find Total Divas to be well done and entertaining. I don't like Eva Marie on there and she's as close to useless as they come in WWE. Jojo is even more useless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 23:31:09 GMT -5
Total Divas is nonstop entertainment. The only problem they have in cross-promoting is they're not using the characters they have on Total Divas. Like, they are creating these unique characters that are interesting and constantly in conflict with the others' personalities, and then on Raw they're all together because they're on the show. The Bellas and Eva Marie should never be on the same team ever, Nattie should be constantly ignored while desperately seeking attention, Cameron should be the most annoying person ever while Naomi just looks on in disbelieve/disgust, and JoJo is invisible.
And goddammit, John Cena needs to cut promos in Mandarin.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Nov 26, 2013 23:57:22 GMT -5
The fact that Jojo and Eva Marie are being pushed at the level they are, and having a show centered around them, is akin to having a show centered around...You know what? I can't even think of a male comparison. I can't think of a male WWE superstar, or any wrestler at all, who has ZERO in ring ability/charisma and yet manages to have a show STAGED AROUND THEM.
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Post by Lila on Nov 27, 2013 0:17:31 GMT -5
I enjoy her and that's all that matters.
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Post by Dukect on Nov 30, 2013 21:40:58 GMT -5
My thoughts on Total Divas in video form
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 30, 2013 21:42:33 GMT -5
The people that hate this show cannot have seen Vinny yet.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Dec 1, 2013 2:34:14 GMT -5
As a reality show, Total Diva's is pretty great. For non-wrestling fans, it introduces them to a world they would never know (and maybe actually get them into wrestling) and for wrestling fans it gives us a rare glimpse backstage and we can spot wrestlers on camera (look! There's the Wyatt Family walking past in the background!)
I agree with the statement about Eva Marie, though. She's terrible, but if you think about it is it any different than someone like William Hung, reality singing star, who was famously appalling and talentless but who has now released about five albums?
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Post by cool guy on Dec 1, 2013 2:47:27 GMT -5
The fact that Jojo and Eva Marie are being pushed at the level they are, and having a show centered around them, is akin to having a show centered around...You know what? I can't even think of a male comparison. I can't think of a male WWE superstar, or any wrestler at all, who has ZERO in ring ability/charisma and yet manages to have a show STAGED AROUND THEM. We haven't seen him in a while, I think they might have sacrificed him to the D-List celebrity gods to make Total Divas happen.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 1, 2013 4:26:19 GMT -5
Really it's the same recipe success for male wrestlers. That "Superstar look" is code for: "Gay guys and straight women will, more likely than not, want to have sexual relations with him." But if that's all they have, you get some gym rat who becomes a joke because he doesn't know the difference between a wristlock and a wristwatch. Except that nowadays most of the guys with the "superstar look" are either jobbing or non entities. And the guys who have/had "the Superstar look" who are actually getting pushed have actually downgraded in the looks department.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 1, 2013 4:34:46 GMT -5
I said it in another thread. Eva Marie had a pay per view match and Chris Hero was released.
In regards to how women are presented, WWE is an incredibly terrible company. Before they hired Renee Young, all of their female backstage announcers were terrible, because they obviously didn't know what they were doing. Being a woman is also a pretty bad handicap in that company, that's why I would actually think AJ is one of the best talents there simply because she got over and overcame the handicap of being a woman. But, it won't change. Ever since 2004, they've hired terrible person after terrible person on their roster and people actually hate "women's wrestling" in general because they watched WWE programming.
Regarding Total Divas, I simply can't hate a show that helped get Tyson Kidd on TV regularly.
I guess if it was up to me, the entire divas division on the main roster would be fired, save maybe 4 people.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 1, 2013 4:41:32 GMT -5
I've seen a couple of episodes of Total Divas a little while back. It looked like your basic reality TV show, or as I like to call it: dreck. And promoting it on TV wouldn't be bad, except that they're focusing all of the Diva storylines around Total Divas. The only Diva that actually gets TV time that's not on the show is AJ, who despite being the "villain" is cheered by pretty much every crowd. And all of the Diva storylines are people being "jealous" that they're not on some crappy reality TV show. In regards to Eva Marie, in her pre-WWE photos she looks fine, but the red hair is just ridiculous. Any attractiveness (to me at least) she had is now instantly gone (same with Rosa with blonde hair). And yeah, I'd much rather see the NXT divas who actually can wrestle be on TV instead of Eva and JoJo who barely have any experience, but I guess it's necessary so the 5% (at most) of Raw/Smackdown viewers that actually watch Total Divas (like Kevin Hamilton said, there's not much crossover viewership) can get their fix. That's actually my biggest problem. If everything had gone on as usual as far as storylines go, that'd be OK. But the fact that this show is being shoved down our throats whenever any Divas are around is ridiculous. Fine, have Nattie feud with AJ for the title, but don't focus it around AJ being supposedly upset that she's not on some reality TV show. And now there's this weird shift where all the reality TV divas are faces and everyone else isn't because..? And I guess that's okay with the non-reality TV divas (considering you never show them anyway), but they never even explained why suddenly the Bellas are suddenly good. Oh wait, they said Brie and DBry were engaged, but that's it. What makes AJ the heel is that she begrudges the Total Divas their exposure instead of simply being content with being the Divas Champion and being the best wrestler. Also she looks down her nose at the Total Divas for sucking...UP to the right people, despite the fact that AJ damn sure didn't get over by wrestling, but by being shoved in various romance angles with main event talents.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Dec 1, 2013 4:44:52 GMT -5
I am so creeped out by people saying she has charisma of ANY kind. By conventional standards, she's might be the prettiest woman in WWE maybe ever, but she's a complete BLACK HOLE of charisma. She's wooden, she's vacant, she has absolutely ZERO personality and she's NOT A WRESTLER. One of the scariest things to me is hearing people apologize for her because if she was even 1% less attractive people would be absolutely outraged. But you know what? People SHOULD be outraged. The fact that Jojo and Eva Marie are being pushed at the level they are, and having a show centered around them, is akin to having a show centered around...You know what? I can't even think of a male comparison. I can't think of a male WWE superstar, or any wrestler at all, who has ZERO in ring ability/charisma and yet manages to have a show STAGED AROUND THEM. What was Eva Marie doing before she got to WWE? What was JoJo doing? This board used to hate the fact that WWE hired models, but at least before they were FITNESS models. Trish is my all time favorite women's wrestler because she had a CHARACTER from day one, and then took initiative to build on that. But Eva Marie is just a wooden doll pornstar type who WWE hired based on looks. There ARE people in the indies, AND ON NXT, who deserve her spot much more than she does. PLEASE don't defend the use of Eva Marie. Watching her celebrate with the Bella twins on Monday, just aping their movements and being vague and lame, was embarrassing to me as a woman and as a wrestling fan. SHE ISN'T EVEN THE HOTTEST REDHEAD
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Post by ratetankmark on Dec 1, 2013 4:52:03 GMT -5
She doesn't know who Jinder Mahal is...I will never forgive her for it.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 1, 2013 5:20:26 GMT -5
One thing about Eva is one could say the same thing about the majority of the people that came in the past decade. For example, Maria's picture was put up as the prettiest. Maria of course, was the shits. Kelly Kelly. The shits. Most likely, someone's favourite female talent in WWE was terrible or at least not very good, and no matter who they bring in, people will like them for their looks.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 1, 2013 10:31:05 GMT -5
Really it's the same recipe success for male wrestlers. That "Superstar look" is code for: "Gay guys and straight women will, more likely than not, want to have sexual relations with him." But if that's all they have, you get some gym rat who becomes a joke because he doesn't know the difference between a wristlock and a wristwatch. Except that nowadays most of the guys with the "superstar look" are either jobbing or non entities. And the guys who have/had "the Superstar look" who are actually getting pushed have actually downgraded in the looks department. it's like that NOW but that's only after like 2003-2009 when they wasted time trying to turn said gym rats into superstars at the expense of people the crowd actually may have wanted to see, which is why there's so few legitimate stars now.
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