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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 5:11:53 GMT -5
David Benoit would have better luck with a different last name. Otunga Jr.?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 28, 2013 7:27:16 GMT -5
If he wants to do so, good luck to him; I just can't imagine wanting anything at all to do with the business if I was in his shoes. That would be a tough road even if all he was facing was trying to be as good as his dad was techincally; much less having to overcome the fact that dad was a child murderer with fans.
You know some chants are gonna be cruel as all hell toward him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 8:42:16 GMT -5
I think it would be worse publicity if WWE doesn't hire him because of his name Really? I really can't get my head around that. I think people would understand. Just think out of this way. Imagine OJ Simpson had some grand children and one of his grandchildren is a young QB in college who has more hype in being great then Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. But despite his skill and great potential, the NFL makes sure you he never plays in the league because of his infamous granddad. Instead he has to choose between the Arena Football League or Canadian Football League. Is that right denying someone based of a infamous family member? If Chris Benoit's son has tons of skills and the look and WWE denies him a chance and say it's because you're the son of a murderer, the media will have a major field day and rally the public support that oh no WWE is monsters!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 8:58:38 GMT -5
Really? I really can't get my head around that. I think people would understand. Just think out of this way. Imagine OJ Simpson had some grand children and one of his grandchildren is a young QB in college who has more hype in being great then Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. But despite his skill and great potential, the NFL makes sure you he never plays in the league because of his infamous granddad. Instead he has to choose between the Arena Football League or Canadian Football League. Is that right denying someone based of a infamous family member? If Chris Benoit's son has tons of skills and the look and WWE denies him a chance and say it's because you're the son of a murderer, the media will have a major field day and rally the public support that oh no WWE is monsters!!!!!!! I don't think that's a perfect comparison. OJ Simpson didn't kill a child. Also the OJ stuff was 20 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 9:11:00 GMT -5
Just think out of this way. Imagine OJ Simpson had some grand children and one of his grandchildren is a young QB in college who has more hype in being great then Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. But despite his skill and great potential, the NFL makes sure you he never plays in the league because of his infamous granddad. Instead he has to choose between the Arena Football League or Canadian Football League. Is that right denying someone based of a infamous family member? If Chris Benoit's son has tons of skills and the look and WWE denies him a chance and say it's because you're the son of a murderer, the media will have a major field day and rally the public support that oh no WWE is monsters!!!!!!! I don't think that's a perfect comparison. OJ Simpson didn't kill a child. Also the OJ stuff was 20 years ago. The NFL does everything to avoid saying his name or bringing up one of his records. Chris Benoit was almost 7 years ago. Most wrestlers who dream of going to to the WWE spend about 3+ years before going to development and spend another 2+ years in development. Sure there will be some smarky crowds that may chant his fathers name but not a lot of crowds will. It may have a quick death like the Husky Harris chants. I say this because I'm from Benoit's home city and WWE actually tested us by having Daniel Bryan avoiding the Crippler Crossface during his match, and having Cena doing one to Punk in the main event for like 2 minutes. Nobody cared and nobody reacted or chanted a Benoit chant or anything.
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Post by The Scuba Guy on Nov 28, 2013 9:37:19 GMT -5
I see no reason why he shouldn't be brought in, assuming he turns out to be a decent wrestler.
I honestly think you guys are thinking this will be a bigger deal then what it may turn out to be.
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Post by Chip Jordan on Nov 28, 2013 9:43:36 GMT -5
Amazed by some of the comments on here. Lets hope none of you have a relative that does something to f--- up your family name...
And if a group of adults are going to chant the name of a murderer just to harass some kid doing what he loves - shame on them.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 28, 2013 9:44:25 GMT -5
It's times like this I wish WWE wasn't a publicly-traded company with family members suffering from delusions of political grandeur. Given David's resemblance to his dad, he could be a time-displaced young Chris Benoit who is horrified to discover his fate but ultimately must go back in time to preserve history. Of course, I'm also the guy who thought the best storyline to be written for Vickie Guerrero would be for her to try to transplant the soul of Eddie into Dolph Ziggler through a black magic ritual, only for a crazed Chris Benoit to enter instead. that is, without a doubt, the single most tasteless idea for a wrestling angle I've ever heard. worse than Katie Vick. Bravo! make sure nobody ever tells it to Vince.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Nov 28, 2013 9:55:02 GMT -5
Amazed by some of the comments on here. Lets hope none of you have a relative that does something to f--- up your family name... And if a group of adults are going to chant the name of a murderer just to harass some kid doing what he loves - shame on them. Well said. If the kid trains and turns out to be good at his craft, then it shouldn't matter what his name is or what his father did.
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Post by Lancers on Nov 28, 2013 9:56:41 GMT -5
I've noticed. A lack of class, a complete misunderstanding of the laws of logic, and what appears to be an allergic reaction whenever confronted with reason. How very bizarre. You sound legit amazing. I wish I was more like you. Teach me logic, Ape Boy. Teach me this mythical logic and reason. School me. Let me sit under your learning tree and study from the master. I know you have so much to teach me after that "humbling" that left me so hurt and confused and questioning why I was ever really successful at what I do, and how any newspaper, magazine or site would have ever let me be a writer for them for 15 years with my limited knowledge of the product and its history... let alone pay me for it. I now know my better, that's for sure. I don't want anymore of your virtual knock out punches! I've had more than enough! CARLESSNESS!!!
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 28, 2013 10:00:32 GMT -5
David Benoit would have better luck with a different last name. Otunga Jr.? No......just pull some fake last name out of your ass that does not make him related to an actual WWE Superstar.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 10:04:40 GMT -5
I don't think that's a perfect comparison. OJ Simpson didn't kill a child. Also the OJ stuff was 20 years ago. The NFL does everything to avoid saying his name or bringing up one of his records. Chris Benoit was almost 7 years ago. Most wrestlers who dream of going to to the WWE spend about 3+ years before going to development and spend another 2+ years in development. Sure there will be some smarky crowds that may chant his fathers name but not a lot of crowds will. It may have a quick death like the Husky Harris chants. I say this because I'm from Benoit's home city and WWE actually tested us by having Daniel Bryan avoiding the Crippler Crossface during his match, and having Cena doing one to Punk in the main event for like 2 minutes. Nobody cared and nobody reacted or chanted a Benoit chant or anything. I still don't think it's a good comparison. The general public doesn't seem to blame the NFL for OJ. More recently, you don't see the NFL getting much, if any, blame for Aaron Hernandez. Rightly or wrongly, wrestling gets a lot of blame for Chris Benoit. And like I said before, anything involving a child is much worse. It's really not about how the WWE feels about Chris or how the fans would react. It's about the media and a potential PR disaster. I'm not saying a PR disaster is guaranteed or even likely, but it's possible. David Benoit would be a risk that I don't think WWE is willing to take.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 10:14:08 GMT -5
The NFL does everything to avoid saying his name or bringing up one of his records. Chris Benoit was almost 7 years ago. Most wrestlers who dream of going to to the WWE spend about 3+ years before going to development and spend another 2+ years in development. Sure there will be some smarky crowds that may chant his fathers name but not a lot of crowds will. It may have a quick death like the Husky Harris chants. I say this because I'm from Benoit's home city and WWE actually tested us by having Daniel Bryan avoiding the Crippler Crossface during his match, and having Cena doing one to Punk in the main event for like 2 minutes. Nobody cared and nobody reacted or chanted a Benoit chant or anything. I still don't think it's a good comparison. The general public doesn't seem to blame the NFL for OJ. More recently, you don't see the NFL getting much, if any, blame for Aaron Hernandez. Rightly or wrongly, wrestling gets a lot of blame for Chris Benoit. And like I said before, anything involving a child is much worse. It's really not about how the WWE feels about Chris or how the fans would react. It's about the media and a potential PR disaster. I'm not saying a PR disaster is guaranteed or even likely, but it's possible. David Benoit would be a risk that I don't think WWE is willing to take. It's only a PR disaster if people agree with the media. If the media makes a big deal about it and the people don't agree with it, then it's a PR disaster with that media station. There are sons of former NFL players who are in the NFL whose fathers recently sued the NFL for concussions. There are now 204 former NHL players suing the NHL for not protecting them from concussions and I'm sure some of those 204 players have sons in the NHL currently. If the guy turns out to be a safe orientated wrestler with a good attitude how is he exactly a risk?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 28, 2013 10:15:29 GMT -5
Had Chris remained with his mother he could well have ended up suffering the same fate as Daniel and Nancy and the people who'll boo and yell his fathers name would be calling him a poor innocent victim, but since he didn't, he'll have to deal with whispered garbage like claims that the 'apple doesn't fall far from the tree' no matter what he does. His father was a celebrity, and he looks like him, there is no avoiding that, in wrestling he could at least try to own his background and make a name for himself.
I hope he does eventually get signed, and the WWE have the good sense to have him use his mother's maiden name and have him do a tour of sympathetic media outlets before his début, giving interviews explaining his situation and how hard it's been on him and his family to have lived through the aftermath of that crime and deal with that stigma. If handled correctly, they could make the naysayers out to be the heartless hypocrites they are and silence them before a single boo is uttered.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Nov 28, 2013 10:26:28 GMT -5
If there was one time a name change would be widely accepted it be this.
But personally I'd really dig a gimmick where he is trying to get out of the dark shadow left behind by his dad.
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 28, 2013 10:32:02 GMT -5
What if he wrestles a totally different style than his dad, like a fast-paced high flying style, or a garbage wrestling-style brawler?
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Post by Medicinal Thunder Liger on Nov 28, 2013 10:44:39 GMT -5
what I want to know is A, when the hell did phil parent join this place? FPC legend tbh. and B, how do you think it's Chono? I wish el hijo del pegasus kid all the luck too, by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 10:52:13 GMT -5
No......just pull some fake last name out of your ass that does not make him related to an actual WWE Superstar. Beckham?
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Post by agent817 on Nov 28, 2013 13:27:00 GMT -5
You'll get chills. I think I remember seeing him in the front row at Backlash 2004.
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Post by fw91 on Nov 28, 2013 13:34:52 GMT -5
Amazed by some of the comments on here. Lets hope none of you have a relative that does something to f--- up your family name... And if a group of adults are going to chant the name of a murderer just to harass some kid doing what he loves - shame on them. Well said. If the kid trains and turns out to be good at his craft, then it shouldn't matter what his name is or what his father did. you are right to an extent, but how would you handle the inevitable Benoit chants by smarks?
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