Phil Parent
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Post by Phil Parent on Nov 28, 2013 19:27:32 GMT -5
Anybody who would rip on WWE for hiring the child of a criminal that has nothing to do with the parent's crimes are one step away from agreeing in spirit with the collective punishment found in countries like North Korea where the whole family if not village ends up in detention camp because of something ONE PERSON did.
David Benoit did nothing.
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 28, 2013 20:46:39 GMT -5
Anybody who would rip on WWE for hiring the child of a criminal that has nothing to do with the parent's crimes are one step away from agreeing in spirit with the collective punishment found in countries like North Korea where the whole family if not village ends up in detention camp because of something ONE PERSON did. David Benoit did nothing. Hasn't anyone here blamed him for what happened...at all? Of course not. But, you know what? People can still point out it's a dubious idea for him to get into wrestling without being evil, judgmental people. 1) WWE will never hire him. And if they did, can you imagine the problems and awkwardness that would arise, particularly when he was doing PR or interviews? And God knows how they'd handle it on TV. It could potentially be very tasteless. 2) TNA, ROH, Japan etc. Will also be weary. This is a huge uphill struggle. (and wrestling is hard enough even for regular people) 3) Let's not get started on what some smark fans could end up chanting at him on live shows or saying to him on Twitter. 4) I don't even what to know what his grandfather, who has said he blames wrestling for what happened, thinks about this. So, yeah, he is lacking in at least some common sense to even consider becoming a wrestler to be a good idea. He's setting himself up for a very difficult life with some real disappointment. At some point you have to say "Well, can't you just do something else?"
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Nov 28, 2013 22:55:34 GMT -5
He looks more like Dynamite Kid than Benoit (I know there was already a similarity between those two to begin with, but this guy looks like whoa, that's Dynamite Kid's son).
MADE EVEN MORE ODD by the fact that he's being trained by Davey Boy's son.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Nov 28, 2013 22:56:44 GMT -5
He looks more like Dynamite Kid than Benoit (I know there was already a similarity between those two to begin with, but this guy looks like whoa, that's Dynamite Kid's son). MADE EVEN MORE ODD by the fact that he's being trained by Davey Boy's son. British Bulldogs 2.0?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 3:38:03 GMT -5
As a man who's father was in prison for rape and murder I applaud the fortitude and sacrifice that he wants and to understand that his past doesnt make him...It might have made me a drunk veteran but it doesnt mean it makes him a killer...I love the attitude
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 3:39:52 GMT -5
to right the wrongs of our forefathers is an age old sin...stop living in a fairytale
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 3:43:36 GMT -5
the sad situation is if the man stands up and is great you will say "atleast he isnt his father" and the other side of the coin will be like "i knew he was like that all along"...so much for a fair jury...couch potatoes run this country
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Post by Andrew is Good on Nov 29, 2013 3:44:27 GMT -5
Davey Boy Smith Jr apparently has been working with him so maybe he could help him get into the New Japan Dojo. He could get into WWE, but he'll be Dave Benjiman or something like that, though he does look exactly like Benoit.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 29, 2013 3:59:46 GMT -5
WWE giving him a chance would be a good way of moving past Benoit. It would depend a lot on the reaction of Nancy's family. If they can say they have no problem with it, literally no one else's opinion matters on it.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Nov 29, 2013 4:02:44 GMT -5
If the WWE does ever hire him it will at least be interesting to see what happens.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 29, 2013 4:49:37 GMT -5
I'll say this much - if he is a good wrestler, and the fans actually show some tact... we could have a huge, white-hot babyface one day.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 29, 2013 7:58:29 GMT -5
I wish him the best. It does irk me that a guy like him is getting catered to because of his fathers accomplishments, but such is life. WWE would be silly to let their feelings towards his father get in the way of signing a remarkable talent. All this means is that David will have to work as hard as the average athlete to prove himself as an entertainer because trying to bank on his daddy's success (eg. Cody Rhodes, Ted Dibiase, Dwayne Johnson) is no longer an option, but he can take advantage of having connections that aspiring sports entertainers can only dream of. He hasn't actually gotten anywhere yet though, has he? He's not signed to anywhere, he's just sent feelers out to a place that trains wrestlers and they haven't said yes or no. It's not like he's been signed to NXT with little to no experience because he has a good physique and/or a well known father like Wes Brisco, Dakota Darsow, Randy Orton, The Usos, Camacho, Ashley Flair, Lacey von Erich, Tamina, Bo Dallas, Bray Wyatt, Roman Reigns... He's more likely to work like Ritchie Steamboat, DH Smith, Nattie or the Dibiases where he spends a few years training, travelling and learning his craft like any other indie guy, only he'll have a harder time getting bookings so it's not a huge leg up for him, and at the end of it all, there is no guarantee he will get signed as you never know with the WWE... All it would take if for one exec at Mattel giving the thumbs down based on his father's actions and his dreams are over.
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Post by Sparvid on Nov 29, 2013 8:53:21 GMT -5
...He looks a lot like me.
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Post by bootytea on Nov 29, 2013 9:12:26 GMT -5
I wish him the best. It does irk me that a guy like him is getting catered to because of his fathers accomplishments, but such is life. WWE would be silly to let their feelings towards his father get in the way of signing a remarkable talent. All this means is that David will have to work as hard as the average athlete to prove himself as an entertainer because trying to bank on his daddy's success (eg. Cody Rhodes, Ted Dibiase, Dwayne Johnson) is no longer an option, but he can take advantage of having connections that aspiring sports entertainers can only dream of. He hasn't actually gotten anywhere yet though, has he? He's not signed to anywhere, he's just sent feelers out to a place that trains wrestlers and they haven't said yes or no. It's not like he's been signed to NXT with little to no experience because he has a good physique and/or a well known father like Wes Brisco, Dakota Darsow, Randy Orton, The Usos, Camacho, Ashley Flair, Lacey von Erich, Tamina, Bo Dallas, Bray Wyatt, Roman Reigns... He's more likely to work like Ritchie Steamboat, DH Smith, Nattie or the Dibiases where he spends a few years training, travelling and learning his craft like any other indie guy, only he'll have a harder time getting bookings so it's not a huge leg up for him, and at the end of it all, there is no guarantee he will get signed as you never know with the WWE... All it would take if for one exec at Mattel giving the thumbs down based on his father's actions and his dreams are over. I was assuming the training he gets will be free and that he is put first in line to be trained by a respected wrestler because of his last time, but I could be wrong since I do not know for sure. My point was that he may not get into WWE as easily as other second generation performers, but he has so many former WWE stars such as Chris Jericho who can direct him to take the right path as oppose to an average person that has to figure it out on their own. Its just a little bit of jealousy on my part.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 29, 2013 9:21:54 GMT -5
Stephanie - "David's not a farmer, he has too much of his father in him" HHH (frowning) - "That's what I'm afraid of" The Banthas are in the pool area.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 10:41:31 GMT -5
IMO they would need to debut him (if it comes to that down the road) with Kevin Sullivan as his manager, with Sullivan wearing a "I did it" T-shirt.
Millions of dollars.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 29, 2013 11:04:14 GMT -5
This is the only instance where the WWE name generator will be better than the wrestler's original name. Don't forget Adrian Neville.
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Post by Aceorton on Nov 29, 2013 19:01:46 GMT -5
Assuming the kid even amounts to a signable talent, there's no way WWE can benefit from this.
If they let him go by "Benoit," they have to re-acknowlege Chris Benoit to at least some degree upon his debut. If they ever pushed him under that name (and why would you hire someone you never envision pushing?), now they're attempting to sell tickets and merchandise and make money off who is, a guy named Benoit, which is going to create outcry. If you think the media won't be all over that, you're crazy. They've forgotten Chris Benoit only because WWE has bleached almost all traces of him from their products. The hypocrisy (or at least the perceived hypocrisy) of WWE suddenly saying, "OK, here's his son" is just asking for a media blitzkrieg and outrage from the families. Even if they counter with the gentle PR tactic of saying, "He's trying to escape the dark shadow of his father's actions, etc.", it still would be feeding into a wrestling angle, and it would reignite the debate over why Chris Benoit did what he did, concussions, performance enhancers, WWE's role, etc. The McMahons do NOT want anyone talking about that stuff ever again.
If they called him something else and ignored the bloodline, fans know. They force things. Think of the fan response that necessitated "Mr. McMahon." Think of "You screwed Matt." Think of the split crowds for Cena that they finally had to acknowledge on-camera. Giving in to the smark reaction (which could be significant) would invite the problems discussed above that they absolutely don't want. Not giving into it would mean that faction of the crowd never shuts up. And there's a likelihood that the media would figure out who he is anyway and want to do a story on him, which would then inform casual fans who didn't already realize.
They won't touch him.
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Post by paulbearer on Nov 29, 2013 20:09:06 GMT -5
No chance....no chance in Hell.
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Post by Toxik916 on Nov 30, 2013 20:05:10 GMT -5
I'm rooting for this guy and hope he succeeds. It would be a great thing for this kid to make it to WWE and bring some honor back to his family name. It isn't his fault his father did what he did and this dude deserves a fair chance at accomplishing his dream to be a wrestler.
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