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Post by kamero00 on Nov 30, 2013 4:45:22 GMT -5
The day after Wrestlemania when Ryback turned on John Cena, everyone was cheering for him. They were ALL chanting "Feed Me More". Why not just make it a face vs face match? Why did Ryback need to turn heel, when at the time he was more liked than Cena?
His heel turned obviously failed, and he has lost all momentum
Has their been worse heel turns in terms of initial reactions and follow ups?
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Post by JTG Fan on Nov 30, 2013 4:53:02 GMT -5
Colin Delaney.
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Post by Moppy on Nov 30, 2013 5:06:21 GMT -5
Some would argue that Austin's turn at WM 17 ended the most popular period in the company's history and started a decline from heights that they've never seen since. So that wasn't exactly "best for business".
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Post by Bad Moon on Nov 30, 2013 5:12:17 GMT -5
Some would argue that Austin's turn at WM 17 ended the most popular period in the company's history and started a decline from heights that they've never seen since. So that wasn't exactly "best for business". Yeah that was pretty embarassing. I think the worst part was the ringside interview he did with JR right after the turn where JR asked him why he turned his back on the people WHILE THEY WERE STILL CHEERING HIM ON in the background.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 30, 2013 5:15:17 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero 2003
Did ANYONE boo him at all?
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Post by Injustice45 on Nov 30, 2013 5:24:37 GMT -5
Rikishi. He was a bad man.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Nov 30, 2013 5:43:00 GMT -5
Punk rarely got booed last/early this year.
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Post by repomark on Nov 30, 2013 5:48:26 GMT -5
Rikishi and Austin were the first two that sprang to my mind, but they have already been said.
JR turning heel during the whole fake diesel/fake razor ramon era was pretty bad, but not as damaging as the failed austin turn or blowing the "who ran over stonecold" angle on rikishi.
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Post by DoubleDare on Nov 30, 2013 6:25:09 GMT -5
Diesel in late 95, no one wanted to boo him, so he became more like a tweener for a bit.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 30, 2013 6:28:25 GMT -5
I second Delaney.
He was perfectly fine as a plucky, underdog jobber been tutored by Dreamer. Plus I loved his tag match against Miz and Morrison.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Nov 30, 2013 6:29:55 GMT -5
Did Sting ever turn heel? If so then this.
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Post by Hurbster on Nov 30, 2013 6:31:23 GMT -5
Well, Goldberg's WCW one was pretty awful. Also Eugene.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Nov 30, 2013 6:44:23 GMT -5
Shad. A PPV loss to the partner he turned on, then out of the company.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Nov 30, 2013 6:46:16 GMT -5
Did Sting ever turn heel? If so then this. www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8ElRPOZXIThey had to make some awful video package to EXPLAIN why IT ALL MAKES SENSE that Sting turned heel.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 30, 2013 6:50:09 GMT -5
Did Sting ever turn heel? If so then this. www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8ElRPOZXIThey had to make some awful video package to EXPLAIN why IT ALL MAKES SENSE that Sting turned heel. I think they managed to attribute every awful thing that ever happened in WCW due to Sting being evil all along.
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Post by jp49er80 on Nov 30, 2013 7:28:39 GMT -5
Austin. Twice.
WM17 - Why? They were never going to boo him.
Invasion - Talk about ruining a good moment. The final Raw before Invasion...one of the best moments of the whole storyline. 6 days later...it all means nothing, and you've shit on the crowd again.
Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 8:02:30 GMT -5
I think they managed to attribute every awful thing that ever happened in WCW due to Sting being evil all along. That has to be one of the worst and hilarious things I've ever seen. They should've kept blaming him for stuff. "Remember when Chris Jericho claimed to know 1004 moves? Perhaps it was Sting that taught him all those armbars." "The NWO invaded WCW... But it was Sting who unlocked the door." "Dungeon Of Doom? Yeah, it was Sting." "Eric Bischoff's hair has turned grey. The stress brought on by the lying rotten Sting no doubt caused it." "My wife left me for another voiceover guy... STING." "Who stole the cookies from the cookie jar? That heartless cold blooded Sting." "Every time a puppy doesn't get adopted, Sting is the reason." "We're all going to die someday, the reason? STING."
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 30, 2013 9:53:24 GMT -5
Matt Hardy's last heel turn. Pushes Jeff down some stairs, sets pyro off in his face, burns down his house and kills his dog, beats him at Mania, loses to him a month later, disappears for a couple of months, then returns to help Jeff beat Punk and starts teaming with him again.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 30, 2013 10:02:28 GMT -5
Did Sting ever turn heel? If so then this. www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8ElRPOZXIThey had to make some awful video package to EXPLAIN why IT ALL MAKES SENSE that Sting turned heel. Not to mention NONE of their logic made sense as to how it proved Sting's evil they were just going over his character arc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 10:08:31 GMT -5
Turn on the one guy who you were able to beat easily. I actually was rooting for a Delaney/Dreamer match at SummerSlam in 2008, but ECW wasn't allowed to have more than 1 match at the PPVs. Ryback turning heel is very high, especially since they haven't capitalized on his potential as a quality heel or even gave him credentials as a babyface.
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