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Post by ratetankmark on Dec 2, 2013 13:27:34 GMT -5
I've heard lots of negative things about them, but since I've never been to an ROH event in my life and I have no interest in going because I can't be bothered to fly from England to the event, I'll have to ask people who have actually been to ROH events.
Were the fans as bad as some people say they are and do you have any good stories to tell about your ROH event?
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Post by froggyfrog on Dec 2, 2013 14:50:28 GMT -5
What do you mean "as bad as they say"? Every Indy has annoying fans that want to get themselves over and every Indy has fans that would be considered a good audience. If you're asking if the fans at shows are 100% booing everything and starting random chants to get noticed then the answer is no. If you're asking if that happens sometimes then the answer is of course.
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Post by ratetankmark on Dec 2, 2013 14:58:18 GMT -5
What do you mean "as bad as they say"? Every Indy has annoying fans that want to get themselves over and every Indy has fans that would be considered a good audience. If you're asking if the fans at shows are 100% booing everything and starting random chants to get noticed then the answer is no. If you're asking if that happens sometimes then the answer is of course. I kept hearing stories that they would chant bullshit like 'Plastic Belts' at the Kings Of Wrestling when they were the Chikara Tag Team Champs and I've heard stories about some wrestler applying the crossface and they chanted 'Daniel' or something along those lines.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 2, 2013 15:15:43 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but usually aren't the worst crowds like what you described the NYC crowds?
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Post by froggyfrog on Dec 2, 2013 15:48:00 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but usually aren't the worst crowds like what you described the NYC crowds? I'd say yes, NY generally brings the largest smark/mark ratio
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 2, 2013 15:57:12 GMT -5
Years ago there were ROHbots that were pretty damn snobby and obnoxious about Ring of Honor and talked down any other indy fed, but most of those fans are long gone
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 16:41:08 GMT -5
To be honest, I think it depends on what area they're running. I've been to the three Milwaukee cards and the first one had some pretty obnoxious fans, the worse being a disabled guy who was in total smark mode. The second one wasn't that bad but a lot of drunks were in the crowd and I was doused in beer and Steen almost got into it with a fan who threw a beer at him. The one in July was probably the best since the crowd was less smark-esque.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Dec 2, 2013 16:43:40 GMT -5
In contrast to kingoftheindies I used to really dig the ROH crowds, they were loud and into the action without being too obnoxious. In recent years though the crowds seem to be dead a lot of the time and you get the crowds at the Hammerstein which - whilst they aren't quiet - are nothing short of awful - it's got to the point where I hate shows running from there because a lot of the show gets ruined (even on iPPV/DVD) by the idiots that turn up.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 2, 2013 17:10:28 GMT -5
Smarkdom is not exclusive to ROH. I seen plenty of indy shows with totally questionable chants. It's unfair to lump a couple of attention seeking assholes to the whole fanbase. Be like saying ECW fans are women hating troglodytes or guys who go to Shimmer are pervs.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Dec 2, 2013 18:42:33 GMT -5
What do you mean "as bad as they say"? Every Indy has annoying fans that want to get themselves over and every Indy has fans that would be considered a good audience. If you're asking if the fans at shows are 100% booing everything and starting random chants to get noticed then the answer is no. If you're asking if that happens sometimes then the answer is of course. I kept hearing stories that they would chant bullshit like 'Plastic Belts' at the Kings Of Wrestling when they were the Chikara Tag Team Champs and I've heard stories about some wrestler applying the crossface and they chanted 'Daniel' or something along those lines. for the "plastic belts", there are several things to that. 1) the Campeonatos de Parejas belts where brand new and thus stiff, and where blue and had a sort of plastic look to them, especially when compared to other championship belts. 2) the CHIKARA of 2006 was not the CHIKARA of 2009 in terms of audience size or popularity online. back then they were regularly running the Reading Coliseum and the Barnesville Thunderdome and drawing very small crowds. 3) The Kings of Wrestling were heels and saying how superior they are because they're the tag champs of another promotion. in short you've got a heel tag team proclaiming their greatest because they had championship belts (that did somewhat look like they were made of plastic) from a promotion that drew roughly the size of a Wrestling Is promotion and no, no crowd ever chanted "Daniel" when someone applied a crossface. one drunk asshole in New York kept yelling stuff at Davey Richards about looking like Benoit (he had stubble and wore a leather vest to the ring), and yelled out "Say goodnight Daniel" when he did a crossface-like move, and thats it. if i recall right he was also forcibly ejected from same show after pouring beer all over Davey when he was by the guardrail
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Post by Fearless The Tank on Dec 3, 2013 1:05:25 GMT -5
After attending numerous shows in NYC, there's a few things I've learned:
1. People will stink. It sucks, but don't let it distract you from the show you paid to see.
2. People yell random shit. I never quite understood why people get bothered by it, it's not like a movie or comedy show where you have to hear what people are saying. Sometimes the things yelled will be funny, sometimes it can be outright obnoxious, however again, you shouldn't let it ruin your good time. After all, you paid for those seats.
3. People are generally assholes. That's everywhere in this world. A wrestling event is no different.
4. Don't be afraid of someone bashing you for trying to have a good time. Who cares if someone calls you a "smark" for standing up and cheering, booing, or chanting. Wrestling is supposed to be fun, if someone is acting all pissy because they take it too seriously, when they're not even the ones in the ring, then their opinion should not affect your good time.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 3, 2013 1:12:04 GMT -5
ROH is the only wrestling promotion whose events I've attended in 2013 where a substantial chunk of the adult crowd will chant "FAG-GOT" in a public setting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 13:18:11 GMT -5
I kept hearing stories that they would chant bullshit like 'Plastic Belts' at the Kings Of Wrestling when they were the Chikara Tag Team Champs and I've heard stories about some wrestler applying the crossface and they chanted 'Daniel' or something along those lines. for the "plastic belts", there are several things to that. 1) the Campeonatos de Parejas belts where brand new and thus stiff, and where blue and had a sort of plastic look to them, especially when compared to other championship belts. 2) the CHIKARA of 2006 was not the CHIKARA of 2009 in terms of audience size or popularity online. back then they were regularly running the Reading Coliseum and the Barnesville Thunderdome and drawing very small crowds. 3) The Kings of Wrestling were heels and saying how superior they are because they're the tag champs of another promotion. in short you've got a heel tag team proclaiming their greatest because they had championship belts (that did somewhat look like they were made of plastic) from a promotion that drew roughly the size of a Wrestling Is promotion Yea their a different between the first and second set of Chikara tag team belt First set: www.wildcatbelts.com/chikara-tag-team-blue-belt.phpSecond set: www.wildcatbelts.com/chikara-tag-team-belt.phpBut then again ROH fan shouldn't be talking when the first ROH tag team belt look like this. and the second ROH tag team belt were NWA Tag Team replica belts.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Dec 3, 2013 13:25:38 GMT -5
ROH does not have fans,they have bots.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 3, 2013 13:29:29 GMT -5
Before and after every show, fans must shake hands with each other. The ones that do not shall be regarded as villains.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 13:30:07 GMT -5
ROH does not have fans,they have bots. How dare you called the Great Green Lantern Fan a bot
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Post by austinariesfan88 on Dec 3, 2013 15:23:36 GMT -5
I remember being very upset with the ROH fans on a few occasions, one was when they wanted Nigel to compete despite knowing he was legitimately injured and the other time is when they turned on Austin Aries and chose Tyler Black as the new fan favorite but as soon as Tyler won the ROH title they then turned on him.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Dec 3, 2013 17:54:40 GMT -5
I remember being very upset with the ROH fans on a few occasions, one was when they wanted Nigel to compete despite knowing he was legitimately injured and the other time is when they turned on Austin Aries and chose Tyler Black as the new fan favorite but as soon as Tyler won the ROH title they then turned on him. hold up now, you got that wrong...they turned on Tyler long before he won the title
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Post by Starshine on Dec 3, 2013 22:19:50 GMT -5
I remember being very upset with the ROH fans on a few occasions, one was when they wanted Nigel to compete despite knowing he was legitimately injured and the other time is when they turned on Austin Aries and chose Tyler Black as the new fan favorite but as soon as Tyler won the ROH title they then turned on him. The Aries/Black switch was pretty heavily orchestrated by ROH. It's not like the fans suddenly turned on Aries, he was heeling it up pretty blatantly leading up to the official switch. It's not like they suddenly turned on him like other instances.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Dec 4, 2013 6:34:42 GMT -5
Yeah as much as there are members of the ROH crowd that are unbearable, it's hard to blame them for turning on Black. He basically become a huge fan favourite after his match with Nigel where he took him to the limit (Take No Prisoners in early '08 - amazing match) and ROH stalled on giving him the belt until the 8th Anniversary Show in early 2010. They waited FAR too long to put the belt on him and by that time the fans had lost interest. That one was on Pearce, Cornette and whoever else was involved in the booking of the shows at that time - not the fans.
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