The Funkadactyls suck.

[metylerca]

Dec 3, 2013 12:29:54 GMT -5 Bootista said:

Dec 3, 2013 12:25:21 GMT -5 metylerca said:

Doing the Colt Cabana running butt bump does not equal good wrestler.

Not sure if you are trolling on purpose or serious, but Naomi is a really good wrestler.

I've been posting here 7 years almost, and this is the first time I have been accused of trolling.

To me, they blend in with the rest of the inconsequential Divas division that gets no reaction in 2 minute botch fests that serves as a piss break. Even with a dedicated television show, nobody cares. I've yet to see a single match where I felt Naomi was good, or above the level of all the other Divas. The only offense (and I won't mention selling because no Diva since Beth or Mickie seems to get the concept of it) they get to accomplish is their version of "flying asshole" and remarkably lame punches and kicks that still manage to miss their mark and make WWE's decision to regulate Divas to 2 minutes of filler on anything worth mention.

The part where other talent that work hard for their spot only to play second fiddle to two dancers who apparently are Dynamite Kid in the ring but held back, that doesn't sit right with me. Its telling when the main enjoyment from their Survivor Series match was how fast the pinfalls would trickle down and who would botch the most.

In the future, I'd refrain from calling posters with different opinions "trolling".

[The Tee Why]

I just like them cause dem asses, really.

Naomi is built so good

[Urfarkendarf]

Naomi has talent and could actually be something on her own. She is kind of a nu school Jacqueline. While Cameron is pretty much dreadful, she fits her role right now. I wouldnt want to see her getting a singles push or anything to that effect, but she has a specific role and fills it fine. I could see Naomi being there for years, but I think once the Funkadactyls/Total Divas runs its course, Cameron will be girl, bye.

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

They could repackage Naomi as Chris Masters, so when she keeps having good matches and people don't believe it people can still go "I'M TELLIN' YA - CHRIS MASTERS IS A GOOD WORKER"

[Abdullah]

Would you like Brodus to get his own television show? Do you want the camera to zoom in on him when he's dancing?

...Because, really, the guy had what felt like the entirety of 2012 to show off. And he has an angle now. Not sure what you're mad about.

[metylerca]

Dec 3, 2013 13:55:36 GMT -5 Abdullah said:

Would you like Brodus to get his own television show? Do you want the camera to zoom in on him when he's dancing?

...Because, really, the guy had what felt like the entirety of 2012 to show off. And he has an angle now. Not sure what you're mad about.

I'm not mad, just annoyed.

I'm not saying scrap them for Brodus Clay and Tensai segments either. There is an entire roster of lower to mid carders who deserve the.screentime set aside for them. Ziggler, Barrett, Sandow, Fandango, TJ Wilson, a returning Evan Bourne, Mark Henry, anybody on the wheel of aggression not named Del Rio. Those are all people who aren't featured at all or hardly given time to do anything compelling. The time given to Divas matches to kill crowds can be spared for any of the guys I listed to better flesh out their character. But instead we're stuck with even stevens booking and what largely amounts to purgatory directionless booking flooded with squash matches that don't build anybody.

[Abdullah]

Dec 3, 2013 15:02:58 GMT -5 metylerca said:

Dec 3, 2013 13:55:36 GMT -5 Abdullah said:

Would you like Brodus to get his own television show? Do you want the camera to zoom in on him when he's dancing?

...Because, really, the guy had what felt like the entirety of 2012 to show off. And he has an angle now. Not sure what you're mad about.

I'm not mad, just annoyed.

I'm not saying scrap them for Brodus Clay and Tensai segments either. There is an entire roster of lower to mid carders who deserve the.screentime set aside for them. Ziggler, Barrett, Sandow, Fandango, TJ Wilson, a returning Evan Bourne, Mark Henry, anybody on the wheel of aggression not named Del Rio. Those are all people who aren't featured at all or hardly given time to do anything compelling. The time given to Divas matches to kill crowds can be spared for any of the guys I listed to better flesh out their character. But instead we're stuck with even stevens booking and what largely amounts to purgatory directionless booking flooded with squash matches that don't build anybody.

...Since you're now playing the role of chrisc, I don't like our chances of finding a middle-ground.

Still, you've previously said the divas get two minutes, do you really think removing them will fix all these issues you're mentioning? It's disingenuous because Ziggler, Sandow, Fandango - they all get TV time. An easier fix would just be booking them better.

I'd have agreed with you about removing the division a few years ago but with AJ, Summer Rae, Kaitlyn and not to mention the NXT divas, there's good to it these days.

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Brodus is the one holding the Funkadactyls back IMO. Every time I hear the music and they come out first I'm like "Awesome, here are Trinity & Ariane" and then it's either "Thank God they're on their own" or if Brodus comes out "Oh FFS the fat f*** is here... fast forward".

Not even the Triple H shovel dance can make me care one bit about Brodus & Tensai.

[g1megatronfan]

I've seen a few of their singles matches etc on Raw and I thought both were bad. I've had the misfortune to see that stupid Total Divas show and both act like idiots. Completely unlikable which transfers into them being on Raw as the "faces" in this feud with AJ which is why I cannot even begin to cheer for either one.

The one with that bald headed moron...she seriously needs to be thrown off a cliff for introducing the public to this jackass. He's seriously the most annoying person on any show...reality TV or otherwise.

[PKO]

I don't like this thread

[Juice]

Tensai can hit the road, as can the women. Nothing of value would be lost.

[Some Guy]

Cameron is god-awful and Naomi is awesome, as others have said. A women's division built around Naomi, AJ, Kaitlyn, Paige, Emma, Summer Rae, Natalya, Tamina, Bayley and Sasha Banks= $.

[Dshuks]

Dec 6, 2013 12:57:19 GMT -5 Some Guy said:

Cameron is god-awful and Naomi is awesome, as others have said. A women's division built around Naomi, AJ, Kaitlyn, Paige, Emma, Summer Rae, Natalya, Tamina, Bayley and Sasha Banks= $.

Lol Tamina is horrible. I don't understand why people view her as bieng a good wrestler and then hate on the Bellas. Brie is a far better wrestler than Tamina as either a heel or a face.

[Deleted]

Except Naomi is about 9000 times better than Brodus, Cameron is unintentionally hilarious, and Tensai can still have some pretty darn good matches if given a shot (his matches with Sheamus from 2012, for example)

I feel weird just reading that someone thinks Brodus deserves better, when clearly he's the least interesting of the four.

[goodbyehorses]

Dec 3, 2013 2:14:40 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Dec 3, 2013 2:02:52 GMT -5 BigBadZ said:

Every time I see her, I wonder what the hell happened to her face to make it that way.

I sincerely hope you're not just saying that because she's a POC.

[Savage Gambino]

Dec 6, 2013 13:28:14 GMT -5 Dshuks said:

Dec 6, 2013 12:57:19 GMT -5 Some Guy said:

Cameron is god-awful and Naomi is awesome, as others have said. A women's division built around Naomi, AJ, Kaitlyn, Paige, Emma, Summer Rae, Natalya, Tamina, Bayley and Sasha Banks= $.

Lol Tamina is horrible. I don't understand why people view her as bieng a good wrestler and then hate on the Bellas. Brie is a far better wrestler than Tamina as either a heel or a face.

I always found it amazing how big people are on Tamina considering, barring her father's Splash and that Super Kick, she really doesn't bring much to the table. Hell, Kaitlyn has more offensive moves, and she's only in her third year of wrestling.

[metylerca]

Dec 6, 2013 10:16:15 GMT -5 Abdullah said:

Dec 3, 2013 15:02:58 GMT -5 metylerca said:

I'm not mad, just annoyed.

I'm not saying scrap them for Brodus Clay and Tensai segments either. There is an entire roster of lower to mid carders who deserve the.screentime set aside for them. Ziggler, Barrett, Sandow, Fandango, TJ Wilson, a returning Evan Bourne, Mark Henry, anybody on the wheel of aggression not named Del Rio. Those are all people who aren't featured at all or hardly given time to do anything compelling. The time given to Divas matches to kill crowds can be spared for any of the guys I listed to better flesh out their character. But instead we're stuck with even stevens booking and what largely amounts to purgatory directionless booking flooded with squash matches that don't build anybody.

...Since you're now playing the role of chrisc, I don't like our chances of finding a middle-ground.

Still, you've previously said the divas get two minutes, do you really think removing them will fix all these issues you're mentioning? It's disingenuous because Ziggler, Sandow, Fandango - they all get TV time. An easier fix would just be booking them better.

I'd have agreed with you about removing the division a few years ago but with AJ, Summer Rae, Kaitlyn and not to mention the NXT divas, there's good to it these days.

I'd rather you address my opinions on the subject without insisting I'm someone else or purposely trying to get a rise out of people. It's improper, gets us nowhere and is borderline flame bait. I'm respectful towards others here, I'd expect the same treatment since we're a nice tight knit community around FAN.

I did say they were in two minute matches. Botchfests, I called them. Because they botch. A lot. But the two minutes I refer to is just the match. That doesn't include the backstage segments where terrible acting takes over the show. I mean seriously, did you not catch that RAW before Survivor Series where all the Divas were backstage and messing up lines before walking off and leaving AJ alone? It was terrible, went nowhere, and made absolutely nobody think to themselves, "whoa! I'd better see that Divas match at the PPV! Here, take my money." Then there are entrances, the post match angles (which again tend to suck) and finally the commercial bumpers promoting their show which I admittedly do not like. Altogether this takes up 10 minutes out of the show. When I bring up Dolph or Sandow or others on screen, I think of this time that could go to them because rather than having a 5 minute match where you just know the person being pushed is going to win clean, Dolph be damned, you could add a couple of more minutes to at least make the match compelling and allot a little more time to build character.

And you are correct, they should just be booked better. And with the flow of things, you'd think they have 4 hours of content crammed into a 3 hour RAW, the way it is paced. And still their back asswards way of logic will not get anybody over.

Onto Naomi. Is anybody going to reference a match or something where she's supposed to be this great mat technician? Because in all of her matches, be it RAW, Smackdown or PPV, I've yet to be impressed or bothered by her. In fact, I couldn't name a Funkadactyl until the Total Divas show began, and had no way of differentiating the two. I didn't call one "good wrestler Funkadactyl" and the other "bad wrestler Funkadactyl." They were just… there.

And once again, I will agree with you. They have plenty of talent (I wouldn't include Kaitlyn when using the word though), but that doesn't mean WWE cares. Just watch the show to see what I mean. The Divas segments on RAW are seemingly filmed with the intent to push the total Divas. Eva Marie. Jo Jo. Funkadactyls. For some reason Natalya has been lacking in her matches, too. They're portrayed in their segments as the people to root for, especially given the way they celebrate like faces after winning their matches, to the crowd's apathy I might add. Heels don't play to the crowd the way they do, if that makes sense.


And I never once said to push Brodus over the girls. He's as useless as them ever since he stopped the squash matches and was exposed as terrible in-ring. I know for a fact that nothing changes by expressing my distaste, too. WWE's priority is their cash cow which is Total Divas right now. But it is a damn shame that they have Sara Del Rey under contract, a couple of competent and even good workers in developmental, and a decent worker in their champion and still would rather give us running butt bumps, "athleticism" based offense, Eva Marie, Rosa Mendes, Aksana and Nikki Bella (Sole Survivor). There will never be a focus on good women's wrestling, and no amount of fantasy booking or excitement over stars 'possibly' aligning will change that. The company has their favorites and will push based on who they like more rather than who could pop the crowd more.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

I think if Cameron were allowed to be her real self on WWE TV, she'd be the most over diva on the roster.

[Kayfabe FAN don't want none]

Dec 6, 2013 16:00:20 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

I think if Cameron were allowed to be her real self on WWE TV, she'd be the most over diva on the roster.

A cop bribing dumbass?

[MrBRulzOK]

Dec 3, 2013 13:08:29 GMT -5 metylerca said:

Dec 3, 2013 12:29:54 GMT -5 Bootista said:

Not sure if you are trolling on purpose or serious, but Naomi is a really good wrestler.

I've been posting here 7 years almost, and this is the first time I have been accused of trolling.

To me, they blend in with the rest of the inconsequential Divas division that gets no reaction in 2 minute botch fests that serves as a piss break. Even with a dedicated television show, nobody cares. I've yet to see a single match where I felt Naomi was good, or above the level of all the other Divas. The only offense (and I won't mention selling because no Diva since Beth or Mickie seems to get the concept of it) they get to accomplish is their version of "flying asshole" and remarkably lame punches and kicks that still manage to miss their mark and make WWE's decision to regulate Divas to 2 minutes of filler on anything worth mention.

The part where other talent that work hard for their spot only to play second fiddle to two dancers who apparently are Dynamite Kid in the ring but held back, that doesn't sit right with me. Its telling when the main enjoyment from their Survivor Series match was how fast the pinfalls would trickle down and who would botch the most.

In the future, I'd refrain from calling posters with different opinions "trolling".

I agree with where you're coming from, but at the same time it's hard to tell exactly how good of a wrestler someone is when they're rushing through two or three minute matches most of the time. That's nowhere near enough time to tell a proper story that doesn't involve one person getting utterly squashed.

From the decent-length matches I've seen from Naomi--- the AJ vs Naomi match from NXT Season 3 is one that comes to mind--- she's far from an awful competitor in the ring. Compared to no-hopers like Aksana and Rosa Mendes she's the Daniel Bryan of the Women's division. And I bet one day she could be really good with the proper guidance.

I'll admit that she's lacking in charisma and she can't really carry anyone in a match, but then again I doubt Trish Stratus, Molly Holly, or even Sara Del Ray could carry half of these girls on the main roster to an acceptable match so that's not really on her. When you take a great athlete and make her face a talentless lump well then you can only expect so much.

And honestly Cameron has improved alot as well. She's still not that good, but she too is alot better than people give her credit for. Granted I don't expect her to become a phenom in the ring anytime soon if ever, but she's far from the worst wrestler in the division.

Now as for outside the ring... yeah, I've got nothing good to say there.