metylerca
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Post by metylerca on Dec 6, 2013 16:20:47 GMT -5
I've been posting here 7 years almost, and this is the first time I have been accused of trolling. To me, they blend in with the rest of the inconsequential Divas division that gets no reaction in 2 minute botch fests that serves as a piss break. Even with a dedicated television show, nobody cares. I've yet to see a single match where I felt Naomi was good, or above the level of all the other Divas. The only offense (and I won't mention selling because no Diva since Beth or Mickie seems to get the concept of it) they get to accomplish is their version of "flying asshole" and remarkably lame punches and kicks that still manage to miss their mark and make WWE's decision to regulate Divas to 2 minutes of filler on anything worth mention. The part where other talent that work hard for their spot only to play second fiddle to two dancers who apparently are Dynamite Kid in the ring but held back, that doesn't sit right with me. Its telling when the main enjoyment from their Survivor Series match was how fast the pinfalls would trickle down and who would botch the most. In the future, I'd refrain from calling posters with different opinions "trolling". I agree with where you're coming from, but at the same time it's hard to tell exactly how good of a wrestler someone is when they're rushing through two or three minute matches most of the time. That's nowhere near enough time to tell a proper story that doesn't involve one person getting utterly squashed. From the decent-length matches I've seen from Naomi--- the AJ vs Naomi match from NXT Season 3 is one that comes to mind--- she's far from an awful competitor in the ring. Compared to no-hopers like Aksana and Rosa Mendes she's the Daniel Bryan of the Women's division. And I bet one day she could be really good with the proper guidance. I'll admit that she's lacking in charisma and she can't really carry anyone in a match, but then again I doubt Trish Stratus, Molly Holly, or even Sara Del Ray could carry half of these girls on the main roster to an acceptable match so that's not really on her. When you take a great athlete and make her face a talentless lump well then you can only expect so much. And honestly Cameron has improved alot as well. She's still not that good, but she too is alot better than people give her credit for. Granted I don't expect her to become a phenom in the ring anytime soon if ever, but she's far from the worst wrestler in the division. Now as for outside the ring... yeah, I've got nothing good to say there. That's another thing though. They're exposed! They literally are learning how to wrestle weekly on live television. It's not as though they were seasoned down in Florida until they were ready. It was as though Vince one day said, "Brodus needs dancers, call her up!" Out of wanting to see what the fuss is about, I will seek out the NXT match with her in it. One last point, the point of a two minute match is flimsy as well. Because it sets precedent that Divas can't kick out or fight back. But then the next week (with a push) they can take out competition in two minutes as well. Who gets over? They're in these length of matches because the office knows they suck, but they're exposed as sucking before they're pushed which effectively is more likely to lead to groans and piss breaks when the time comes to have a program for the title than it will in great anticipation and crowd response. No male roster member will ever get the chances these women do to go out and f*** up consistently. Well, Sin Cara maybe, but that's the exception and not the rule.
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Post by I've got some bad news... on Dec 6, 2013 16:42:51 GMT -5
To all the people saying Brodus is holding them back, let's not forget that Brodus is a MAIN EVENT talent.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 19:04:02 GMT -5
Naomi would be good if you took away her butt bump, which is now like 40% of her matches.
Cameron is naturally garbage. And no she hasn't "improved" no matter how many wwe approved photoshopped pictures you link.
Unless "improved" means since tough enough, she learned to irish whip someone without falling on her face 80% of the time (now down to an impressive 45%)
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 6, 2013 20:14:51 GMT -5
To all the people saying Brodus is holding them back, let's not forget that Brodus is a MAIN EVENT talent. WWE Main Event Every Wednesday at 8pm on ion!
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 6, 2013 20:16:48 GMT -5
Boy Bye.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 6, 2013 20:58:34 GMT -5
Why does everyone hate the people I like?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 6, 2013 20:59:58 GMT -5
The one with that bald headed moron...she seriously needs to be thrown off a cliff for introducing the public to this jackass. He's seriously the most annoying person on any show...reality TV or otherwise. Don't let me catch you in the street homie. WE GON' BOX. I'm taping up my fists right now. I would die for Vinny.
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Post by The Man They Call Asher on Dec 6, 2013 21:08:29 GMT -5
Why does everyone hate the people I like? Because the people you like are awful. In my opinion anyway.
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Post by Rican on Dec 6, 2013 22:32:26 GMT -5
I like when they put their butts together.
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Post by BigBadZ on Dec 6, 2013 22:46:24 GMT -5
The one with that bald headed moron...she seriously needs to be thrown off a cliff for introducing the public to this jackass. He's seriously the most annoying person on any show...reality TV or otherwise.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 6, 2013 23:31:22 GMT -5
Naomi would be good if you took away her butt bump, which is now like 40% of her matches. Cameron is naturally garbage. And no she hasn't "improved" no matter how many wwe approved photoshopped pictures you link. Unless "improved" means since tough enough, she learned to irish whip someone without falling on her face 80% of the time (now down to an impressive 45%) Very over-exaggerated. Such hyperbole. Wow. Never seen Cameron fall on an Irish Whip. Not once. In fact, I would actually say she's somewhere between the Bella Twins right now, which isn't stellar, but is pretty damn good for having been there two years last month. Of course, even if she turned out to be a hell of a talent down the road, people would still find some reason to hate her because they've already made their mind up to do so, but that's a whole nother conversation.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Dec 7, 2013 10:26:33 GMT -5
I like when they put their butts together.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 7, 2013 10:36:32 GMT -5
The Funkettes need to split from Brodus and Tensai now. Brodus is probably going to turn heel and get more serious. The Funkettes should keep the music, entrance and gimmick.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 10:36:54 GMT -5
Naomi would be good if you took away her butt bump, which is now like 40% of her matches. Cameron is naturally garbage. And no she hasn't "improved" no matter how many wwe approved photoshopped pictures you link. Unless "improved" means since tough enough, she learned to irish whip someone without falling on her face 80% of the time (now down to an impressive 45%) Very over-exaggerated. Such hyperbole. Wow. Never seen Cameron fall on an Irish Whip. Not once. In fact, I would actually say she's somewhere between the Bella Twins right now, which isn't stellar, but is pretty damn good for having been there two years last month. Of course, even if she turned out to be a hell of a talent down the road, people would still find some reason to hate her because they've already made their mind up to do so, but that's a whole nother conversation. Naomi has the potential to go far. She really needs to learn to show emotion during the match though. Physically she's got all the tools, but mentally, her head's not in the match or "in the moment" when she's wrestling. If she can turn the corner on that, she'd be a great addition. Cameron - maybe she'll improve later on, but right now I'm not seeing anything that qualifies her as a wrestler.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 7, 2013 12:44:41 GMT -5
The Funkettes need to split from Brodus and Tensai now. Brodus is probably going to turn heel and get more serious. The Funkettes should keep the music, entrance and gimmick. Tensai should go back to being A-Train. Cameron and Naomi should move on to being someone else's cheerleaders. I can picture them rolling with Big E, and wearing white catsuits with a big red "5" on the chest.
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Post by AnActualBear on Dec 7, 2013 12:53:38 GMT -5
I sincerely hope you're not just saying that because she's a POC. Oh for goodness sake, you are allowed to call her "black" you know. It's ok, no one will accuse you of being racist. I had to google what POC even meant. Of course implying someone else is racist despite no evidence to back this up could be construed as being you who is in fact a racist, but I would never make that argument with a straight face because I would be quite rude and impolite to do so...
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