Hanzo
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Post by Hanzo on Dec 4, 2013 12:16:02 GMT -5
Everyone always goes on about how pro wrestling having an off season would be bad for business because they would lose money, but NFL and NBA have off seasons and they seem to rake in plenty of money. I mean, NFL and NBA don't have to worry about going out of business, so why should pro wrestling companies worry? I think it would be beneficial because it would give the wrestlers time to heal their injuries and relieve their stress. Even if it's just a month or two.
Maybe I don't really understand the business side of wrestling. Is pro wrestling really a horse of a different color?
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Dec 4, 2013 12:21:36 GMT -5
I think the belief is that wrestling fans are slave to routine. If you mess up their schedule and they stop watching, even for a week, you may not get them back.
Vince allegedly used to get crazy when RAW was preempted in favor of the Dog Show on USA for the same reason. He believes that they spend months and years conditioning the fans into a routine and that all that work can be easily ruined.
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Juice
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Post by Juice on Dec 4, 2013 12:39:52 GMT -5
Wrestling is an outdated concept. I know for certain if it wasn't on all year, I wouldn't come back to it. and I have been a life long fan for 25 some odd years.
And to compare wrestling to big sports like the NFL is a joke dude. Id wager just the team owners have more profit margins than wwe let alone the entire league.
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Phil Parent
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Post by Phil Parent on Dec 4, 2013 12:40:25 GMT -5
It really wouldn't!
You rest your wrestlers, your creative team, your live event markets... everybody's face gets some time off.
Plus creatively, it gives you a natural frame to follow, maybe you have a storyline you want spanning the entire season that concludes at WrestleMania, with a week of aftermath to tie up any loose ends and plant seeds for the next season, then take a month or two off.
Nowadays, with social media and the internet, it would totally possible to have things happening in the lives of the characters during the time off and have it having consequences when the show resumes.
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BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Dec 4, 2013 13:02:21 GMT -5
I know I'd probably quit watching if there was an offseason.
It's the same reason as to why I don't watch TV dramas until the entire show is done. All those months without anything just kills my interest.
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TheDieselTrain
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Dec 4, 2013 14:02:20 GMT -5
It's off season is May - Dec for all intents and purposes.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 4, 2013 14:40:16 GMT -5
I think the belief is that wrestling fans are slave to routine. If you mess up their schedule and they stop watching, even for a week, you may not get them back. Vince allegedly used to get crazy when RAW was preempted in favor of the Dog Show on USA for the same reason. He believes that they spend months and years conditioning the fans into a routine and that all that work can be easily ruined. I think a true off season is impossible. But I think there should be a short period where WWE stops running house shows and only does TV and PPV. Like for 2-3 months the wrestlers would only do RAW, SmackDown, and PPVs and go home the rest of the week.
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Sparkybob
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 4, 2013 14:43:06 GMT -5
I don't think wrestler will like this since it ruins there routines or can kill any of their momentum they were starting to build. Plus imagine what will Vince do if he had no shows to run. I don't think he has anything else in his life he can devote time to other than wrestling and mocking JR.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 14:50:07 GMT -5
Honestly, I think a significant chunk of the fanbase is only still watching because they can't find much else to watch on Monday nights and if they had to they probably wouldn't come back.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 4, 2013 14:54:38 GMT -5
The wWE is never going to have an off season, it has more in common with a daytime soap than football and the people running it know that. What it needs is for every wrestler to have a mandatory time off every year to be with their families, deal with niggling injuries and to give creative time to come up with something for them.
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Reflecto
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 4, 2013 15:58:03 GMT -5
A full offseason would hurt business, but having said that...why not just go with a tiered off-season? Instead of two-three months where it goes dark, separate the roster into, say, six groups, then have each group get one month off every six months (that must be taken in a block- so WWE can't say, for instance "Okay, John Cena will get to be not booked for eight episodes of Raw or Smackdown in the six months, that's his vacation".) Same offseason, but skewed in a way so WWE TV keeps going without the people in their offseason and allows other names to make a name while people take time off.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Dec 4, 2013 16:23:13 GMT -5
I think they should run less house shows from November through February and in June and July only run NXT branded house shows with 2 headlining stars from the main roster to boost attendance. This means that the developmental talent get more exposure and the main roster gets a lot more downtime for recuperation and training without there being a drop in television or any chance to the schedule as not to break the conditioning of the fans.
Of course to get people interested in going to the NXT shows you'd have to feature an NXT match or Raw or Smackdown every now and again except there's a lot of positives in that, as once again it will get the audience used to the new up and coming stars but also allow the WWE to evaluate their developmental talent, how quickly they can get their gimmick over, how well the character translates to TV and how they work out in front of a live television audience and how well they come across to the fans by scouting not only the reaction of the fans in attendance but also the reception of the new star through social media outlets as well.
As far as resting creative goes? I'm not sure. There's always the possibility that they could have a rotating team who work in five month blocks each and have two months of combined work over Wrestlemania season. That way each team would be fresh coming into a new 'block' of writing, putting on an amazing Road To Wrestlemania and the old team would have plenty of time to pass over the reigns to the new team and so on before they went off to rest.
Of course a proper "off season" is never going to happen in Wrestling and honestly it probably wouldn't work but a reduced schedule for the workers and a focus more on creating a well rounded entertainment franchise which has different things going on at different times of the year, or at different parts of the 'season' would work wonders for the business, in my opinion that is.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Dec 4, 2013 21:27:10 GMT -5
Just rest the wrestlers on rotation.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 4, 2013 21:44:26 GMT -5
I don't think wrestler will like this since it ruins there routines or can kill any of their momentum they were starting to build. Plus imagine what will Vince do if he had no shows to run. I don't think he has anything else in his life he can devote time to other than wrestling and mocking JR. He'd probably be crazy enough to spend an entire hypothetical off-season sitting outside JR's house just to mock him.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 4, 2013 21:57:14 GMT -5
WWE takes off for X months ---> TNA starts promoting like crazy that they're the only wrestling on tv during those months
That's essentially what would happen
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Post by Unaffiliated on Dec 4, 2013 22:01:56 GMT -5
I would be for the idea of rotation too.
I understand why there is no off season. It is not structured like other sports. There is no season-end championship or anything like that. However, I also think that the non-stop continuation has led to wrestling becoming mundane. Recycled storylines, recycled feuds, etc.
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Post by 2 Cold Scorkum on Dec 4, 2013 22:02:13 GMT -5
Just rest the wrestlers on rotation. Boom. This. That being said, I think the product going away for a few months would do wonders for my interest, I don't think most fans would respond in that way.
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Post by Green Arrow on Dec 4, 2013 22:22:58 GMT -5
I think a true off season is impossible. But I think there should be a short period where WWE stops running house shows and only does TV and PPV. Like for 2-3 months the wrestlers would only do RAW, SmackDown, and PPVs and go home the rest of the week. Agree with this entirely.
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Post by molson5 on Dec 4, 2013 22:26:22 GMT -5
It wouldn't go out of business and TV ratings might even increase if it wasn't on all year, but yes they'd lose money, they get paid by the show, and by the hour. I think even they'd agree that the 3rd hour of RAW has been a huge creative challenge, and it's hurt the rating, but they get close to a 1/3rd more TV money for that 3rd hour, and that's substantial.
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mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Dec 4, 2013 22:50:19 GMT -5
I don't think having one month off would hurt things. Maybe the holidays taken off and they put forth several TV specials.
Everything resumes a few weeks prior to the Rumble, where not a ton needs to be planned.
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