Edge: What do you think about him?

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So I'm rewatching Edge's documentary again and honestly I've always appreciated him but I had no idea that I did this much. He's probably the only superstar that I remember watching from his debut to gradually rise up the ranks naturally. He didn't have a fast push, overall it was normal and that's what I loved. I don't recall anyone else that I can say the same for. Even more so I'm not sure if there's anyone in this current generation that it will happened that way. By the mid 2000s it was great when they realized exactly how great of a talent he was. After all the time he put into it, it all worked out. Capturing belt after belt after belt it was a nice change. Let's also look at his match quality. I just had no idea he was that good when I was younger. Of course the older you get the more appreciate things but still. Edge had it.

What do you think about him?
Did you like his matches?
What were his favorite moments to you?

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

From 2005-2009, he was a fantastic heel. He really was the perfect heel. He was entertaining, sure but at his core, he was a complete scumbag with no redeeming qualities. Boy, did he start spinning his wheels in 2010 though. While I'm certainly not happy about the reason why he retired, I think it's a good thing that he left in 2011 cause he was stale as hell.

[Hit Girl]

He was always awesome. I loved his debut vignettes. Redefined tag team wrestling with the Dudleys and Hardys. Was example of how a guy can adapt his character from time to time, and could be intense, sadistic and hilarious depending on the situation. Got nothing bad to say about the dude.

[MolotovMocktail]

Great worker, loved him as a heel, but thought he was a lousy face. When he first came back from his injury, it just seemed like he was trying too hard to get the crowd on his side. Then when he turned face again and just said "SPEAR!" all the time, it again came off as lame. He did kind of need one last face run before he retired, but overall, way better as a bad guy.

[Hit Girl]

He was also responsible for the single most hilarious pinfall ever made in wrestling at ECW One Night Stand

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I think I know him.

[Injustice45]

He was one of the SmackDown! Six. That really says a lot. He was a great heel. Edge's feuds with Batista and The Undertaker was the best thing on SmackDown for me.

[Raskovnik]

My all-time favorite wrestler.

[Manute Bol]

While most of them were gimmick matches, he had tons of matches that I look back on very fondly. If I were to create a Best of Edge, it would probably look something like this:

10/17/99 - Ladder Match: Edge & Christian vs. The Hardy Boyz (No Mercy)
11/14/99 - The Hardy Boyz, Edge & Christian vs. The Holly Cousins & Too Cool (Survivor Series)
4/2/00 - Ladder Match: The Dudley Boyz vs. The Hardy Boyz vs. Edge & Christian (WrestleMania 2000)
8/27/00 - TLC Match: The Dudley Boyz vs. The Hardy Boyz vs. Edge & Christian (SummerSlam)
4/1/01 - TLC Match: The Dudley Boyz vs. The Hardy Boyz vs. Edge & Christian (WrestleMania X-Seven)
5/24/01 - TLC Match: Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit vs. The Dudley Boyz vs. The Hardy Boyz vs. Edge & Christian (Smackdown)
9/26/01 - No Disqualification Match: Edge vs. Eddie Guerrero (Smackdown)
10/20/02 - Edge & Rey Mysterio vs. Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit (No Mercy)
4/3/05 - Money in the Bank Ladder Match: Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho vs. Kane vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Christian vs. Edge (WresteMania 21)
1/16/06 - TLC Match: Ric Flair vs. Edge (RAW)
4/2/06 - Hardcore Match: Mick Foley vs. Edge (WrestleMania 22)
6/11/06 - Extreme Rules Match: Terry Funk, Tommy Dreamer & Beulah McGillicutty vs. Mick Foley, Edge & Lita (One Night Stand)
9/17/06 - TLC Match: John Cena vs. Edge (Unforgiven)

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

His schtick of losing the title, then "shocking the world", by winning the title back in "controversial" fashion wore thin really quick. I was glad when he turned face.

I also really enjoyed the short lived reunion with Christian in the final months of his career. I think that if Edge wasn't forced to retire, then he and Christian would've been put together in that DX "super team" role.

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

Dec 5, 2013 23:59:01 GMT -5 @dax said:

I think I know him.

You're just a puppet.

[mcmahonfan85]

enjoyed his earlier career a lot more than his later career. loved E&C and thought he was great, but his heel singles run got really, really stale to me (it didn't help that he used the running hug as his finisher)

[thegame415]

Dec 5, 2013 23:59:01 GMT -5 @dax said:

I think I know him.

You will never know him. You are lost...and scared.

[mizerable]

As much as I liked him, I always felt that WWE never tapped their full potential with him as a character. The Rated R Superstar started out great, but it became less of a trait and more of just a moniker. So just a little breakdown of things;

1998-1999- uninspiring start as a single's star, and then a mediocre placement in the Brood. He was okay during this time, but nothing exactly special. I guess I liked his Vincent Price voice during this period. What a weird beginning to his character.

2000-2001- He and Christian hit their stride as a heel teen idol tag team. In my opinion the most fun either he or Christian ever had in their career. Anytime they were onscreen with either Kurt Angle or Mick Foley, there was gold to be seen. It's too bad they split them so soon, since I would have liked to see the dissent happen closer to Wrestlemania 18.

2002-2003- An okay single's star...felt like a ripoff of the Rock to some extent. His partnership with Mysterio was okay as well, but something was lacking. It's still better than the shit that came later.

2004- Garb-Edge. I hated HATED his return. Not only was he juiced to the gills (something he admitted to), but his character was terrible, his lack of passion seemed evident, and he kept getting f***ing injured. A face that no one cared about, he then became a whiny heel that wasn't fun to boo because you were supposed to, instead he was channel change inducing. He also basically said that the Intercontinental title didn't matter after he won it. Also, he got covered up his silly shark tattoo with Black Hole Sun (won't you come?) and also changed his pretty neat tights with a more generic design. Yeah, this was probably Edge at his worst.

2005- He started to turn things around beginning in late 2004, but he became less annoying and more dastardly. Not as dastardly as he would become, but still leagues better than before. The addition of Lita and the real life Matt Hardy stuff benefited him greatly.

2006- THE year of Edge. Not only did he win the WWE title, but he became the Rated R Superstar (something I originally thought would have been a great gimmick). Unfortunately, WWE in their infinite shortsidedness, decided to have him drop the title right back to Cena. He did have a great match with a pretty retired Foley, but he didn't really get back on top until RVD screwed up over the summer.

2007- The Rated RKO stuff started off pretty good in late 2006. However, I always considered it a great loss by not having them have a match at Mania. I don't care if it would have been heel vs. heel, since the audience was well into both characters at the time and would have eaten it up. His jump to Smackdown was alright, but after being a thorn in Cena's side for so long, I would have preferred he stayed close to his adversary especially since any time they got together, I always wanted more (well for at least the first 2 years). Him being gone for over half the year didn't help matters.

2008- This is where Edge started treading the same ground. He still put on great matches, but he should have had a face run during this time. Winning the title and then quickly losing the title, only to win it again got incredibly old quickly. It didn't help that all his opponents didn't match his fire he had with Cena. The addition of La Familia was stupid as well, as if Edge NEEDED anyone to help him get heat. Sorry, but it just came off as desperate to make him the most repugnant heel at the time. But yeah...the La Familia stuff went on only forever too long.

2009- By this point, it was pretty f***ing clear that Edge was a stale heel. They continued to retread the same crap with Vickie...as well as going back to feuding with Cena, only this time it wasn't nearly as interesting as their first few encounters. More silly title wins and losses. Just the same thing we saw before. I didn't hate Edge during this time, but I just wished WWE did more with his character.

2010- Not that I ever want to see a wrestler get injured, but his injury the year prior helped Edge eventually lead to a face turn. It wasn't the best face run, but it was at least something different. Unfortunately, the audience didn't accept it and he went right back to being the uninspired heel from before. Back to Raw, back to Smackdown. Bla bla bla. These last couple years were absolutely forgettable because WWE continued to have the character do the same thing over and over. His "war on stupid" could have been good, if better handled, but like everything else Edge-based, WWE toned it down to near nothingness thus not benefiting him or the audience.

2011- Edge's last hurrah was nice. At least he went out as a face, and somewhat engaging, by teasing an E and C return or possibly even a feud. And not a lot of people can leave their last Wrestlemania as champion. In fact, as of now, only Edge has that accomplishment.

Like I said, he had a lot of potential and many great moments. But thanks to a lot of dull storylines and motives, Edge always felt like he never was everything he should have been. It's not all his fault, since it would have been much better if they didn't drop the ball on him so many times once he reached main event status. It also didn't help that they always booked him as the back up guy when he clearly was getting plenty of attention and may have done more. Nonetheless, I have to be honest...while I love Edge, he'll probably never break the top 20 guys for me thanks in part to so much time spent spinning his wheels.

[Unaffiliated]

Great as a heel, but didn't like him as much when he turned face. Same can be said for many others.

[Amazing Kitsune]

The mysteries of this life unfolds... When we embrace the Edge...

And then let go.


I think Edge was great but not amazing in any category. He had a great run and deserved all of the success he had.

[EyeofTyr]

I was always underwhelmed by Edge outside of his E & C days and that brief period of time during his initial big heel turn when he started out as a psycho and gradually shifted into the Rated R Superstar persona.

[thetower52]

I love edge
Him along with Christian , the hardyz and to a lesser extent the Dudley's are what hooked me on to pro wrestling.
I watch his career damn near from the start to finish
With our those 6 i wouldn't be a wrestling fan or a pro wrestler at all
I owe it to them

[Germansuplex]

Dec 6, 2013 0:23:52 GMT -5 xxshoyuweeniexx said:

Dec 5, 2013 23:59:01 GMT -5 @dax said:

I think I know him.

You're just a puppet.

You're both failure turtles!

Edge may have been one of the best heels in This Business. Awesome in the ring, very good on the mic, one of the greatest this era has produced.

[The Man That Sanity Forgot]

Dec 5, 2013 23:59:01 GMT -5 @dax said:

I think I know him.

It took me an absurdly long time to get this. I read it, scrolled down and read the rest of the posts, finally clicked and instantly went back to like it.