TheDieselTrain
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Dec 6, 2013 22:29:42 GMT -5
So playing WWE 2K14 WM mode I got to this match and I never really thought about this buy i'm wondering who do you think looked like the bigger goof at the end of the night as far as the main event goes.
Bret Hart...... The guy gets cheated out of his match and loses the title because of getting salted in the eyes. Instead of going to the ref or complaining about getting screwed out of the title or intant replay or anything like that he for some reason encourages Hulk Hogan to take the very next shot for the title.....rematch clause be damned.
Yokozuna....... Immediately after a hard fought win he immediately challenges a pretty much fresh Hogan to a match for the title. Hogan accepts and Yoko ends up losing in pretty quick fashion.
What do you think........
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 23:54:45 GMT -5
Yokozuna and Mr. Fuji looked like huge dumbasses. Yoko was visibly exhausted and Hogan was pretty well rested having wrestled in a tag match, so why you would immediately put your title on the line for absolutely no reason is stupid beyond words.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 23:57:31 GMT -5
Yoko looked stupid, but at least he was a heel. Hogan coming to Bret's rescue was embarrassing and made Bret look like Hulk's sick little brother or something.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 7, 2013 0:04:48 GMT -5
Bret lost by cheating.
Yoko won like a bitch and then got demolished like one 2 seconds later.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 0:09:50 GMT -5
Fuji looked like an idiot. Yokozuna losing to Hulk didn't do any damage since Yoko was visibly drained from the match he just had. Bret lost via interference. Fuji was the main idiot in all of that.
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mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Dec 7, 2013 0:19:28 GMT -5
They both looked excellent.
Their WMIX encounter was leagues better than their match at WMX.
Let's not let a little Hogan ruin things...the main event kicked ass.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 7, 2013 1:07:23 GMT -5
Bret at least got to lose via salt in the eyes, and it's not like whether an impromptu Yoko vs Hogan title match was going to change anything. He's still not going to be the champ regardless of whether Yoko or Hogan leave Vegas with the title.
Yoko and Fuji looked like clowns putting themselves into a situation that cost them everything with little upside.
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Post by kamero00 on Dec 7, 2013 1:55:26 GMT -5
Both ended up over after the said situation. Bret was only the 2nd person to be able to beat Yoko in a full 3 years at WM 10, and after Yoko won it back, he did not get pinned once till WM 10.
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Post by Paco on Dec 7, 2013 5:51:31 GMT -5
Around what time did the "rematch clause" become a thing? Pretty sure it's a product of the last decade and not applicable to Mania IX.
It just might be my least favorite booking crutch. However, if I had that many useless PPVs now, I'd probably be lazy and just book rematch after rematch too.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 7, 2013 5:53:47 GMT -5
I wasn't a smark back then, so as far as I was concerned everyone looked good.
Bret got cheated. He would have won otherwise. Yoko looked like a villain, and Hogan beat the arrogant villain, for a feel good moment.
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Post by evilone on Dec 7, 2013 10:51:00 GMT -5
The only thing that seems idiotic is the notion that throwing salt in opponents face will make him vulnerable to a pinfall. Now that doesn't make any sense...
...but in a cartoon world of wrestling back in 1993 it was a lethal weapon of choice for Mr. Fuji. If we take salt in your face seriously then Bret lost due to heavy cheating, but so did the Yoko who also got defeated by salt in his eyes and not by Hogan. When it's all said and done Mr. Fuji's salt beat both Bret and Yoko and both of them got out of it stronger than they were.
How?
Yoko pinned Hogan clean on KotR proving that Hogan's WMIX win was just a fluke. Bret swept the KotR tournament proving there is nobody else better than him on current roster, except maybe Yoko. So there you go.
Yes Hogan has fulfilled his fantasy to become a WWF champion one more time, but it came with a huge penalty for his character. He got the belt by a fluke in his weakest championship match after finger poke of doom and he failed to defend it in regular match by getting destroyed by Yoko fair and square. So Yoko was the monster that finally killed monster killer known as Hulk Hogan. Yoko went for a whole year of being a champ unthinkable for a heel back then only to be defeated by Bret.
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Post by repomark on Dec 7, 2013 13:04:43 GMT -5
I think Yokozuna not stopping Fuji putting the title on the line immediately after the match makes him look worse. Had Bret told Hogan not to take the shot once it was offered he would have come across as looking like a sore loser/heel. I agree Fuji is the most to blame though.
Underrated little match Yokozuna v Bret at WM9. It often gets forgotten because of the Hogan run in, and because their match at WM10 was poor.
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Post by jason1980s on Dec 7, 2013 13:04:46 GMT -5
The only thing that seems idiotic is the notion that throwing salt in opponents face will make him vulnerable to a pinfall. Now that doesn't make any sense... ...but in a cartoon world of wrestling back in 1993 it was a lethal weapon of choice for Mr. Fuji. If we take salt in your face seriously then Bret lost due to heavy cheating, but so did the Yoko who also got defeated by salt in his eyes and not by Hogan. When it's all said and done Mr. Fuji's salt beat both Bret and Yoko and both of them got out of it stronger than they were. How? Yoko pinned Hogan clean on KotR proving that Hogan's WMIX win was just a fluke. Bret swept the KotR tournament proving there is nobody else better than him on current roster, except maybe Yoko. So there you go. Yes Hogan has fulfilled his fantasy to become a WWF champion one more time, but it came with a huge penalty for his character. He got the belt by a fluke in his weakest championship match after finger poke of doom and he failed to defend it in regular match by getting destroyed by Yoko fair and square. So Yoko was the monster that finally killed monster killer known as Hulk Hogan. Yoko went for a whole year of being a champ unthinkable for a heel back then only to be defeated by Bret. I like your way of viewing KOTR. I think both Bret and Yokozuna got screwed at WM but now that I see your point of KOTR, I'm grateful it worked out that way for both guys. I would've liked Heenan to do the Schiavone "go to hell" or whatever the statement was to Hogan at KOTR cementing that he was gone (at least from TV). I think in Hogan being Hogan at WM he screwed himself in the long run. The loss at KOTR was used to put over Yokozuna a year later in WWF magazine complete with tombstones signifying Hogan's career death. As for salt, if I so much as get a tiny piece of debris in my eye I go crazy. Not too hard to see for me that a handful of salt would hurt. I would use that as my weapon in a fight.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Dec 7, 2013 15:43:14 GMT -5
Fuji looked like an idiot. Yokozuna losing to Hulk didn't do any damage since Yoko was visibly drained from the match he just had. Bret lost via interference. Fuji was the main idiot in all of that. I'd say it was Fuji's biggest Mania moment.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Dec 7, 2013 16:58:51 GMT -5
I remember being pissed at the time that Hogan didn't just get the decision reversed, rather than stealing Bret's thunder and spot and taking the title that should have still been The Hitman's. To me, it was the final nail in the 'Hulkamania is lie' coffin, after the previous year's narrative of Hogan cheating in the Royal Rumble and being retconned as being justified. It was all bullshit. And the fact Hogan didn't even show up on TV until he dropped it made it a way worse decision/booking blunder.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Dec 7, 2013 17:00:02 GMT -5
Yoko pinned Hogan clean on KotR proving that Hogan's WMIX win was just a fluke. That's not what happened. At all. Hogan was on the verge of winning until he got an old-timey flash photography in the face.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 7, 2013 17:09:04 GMT -5
Fuji looked like an idiot. Yokozuna losing to Hulk didn't do any damage since Yoko was visibly drained from the match he just had. Bret lost via interference. Fuji was the main idiot in all of that. I'd say it was Fuji's biggest Mania moment. No way. Cheating to win that boardwalk run at Wrestlemania V was The Devious One's finest hour.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 7, 2013 18:17:12 GMT -5
Yoko pinned Hogan clean on KotR proving that Hogan's WMIX win was just a fluke. That's not what happened. At all. Hogan was on the verge of winning until he got an old-timey flash photography in the face. Well, those old-timey flash photo cameras were a bit prone to massive explosions, it seems. So, Hulk should've been more careful around it.
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Post by evilone on Dec 7, 2013 18:42:21 GMT -5
Yoko pinned Hogan clean on KotR proving that Hogan's WMIX win was just a fluke. That's not what happened. At all. Hogan was on the verge of winning until he got an old-timey flash photography in the face. Nah that was just a rotten compromise cause most likely Hogan didn't want to take a banzai for the pin. Why not have Fuji do the dirt? Because most likely creative wanted Yoko to go over clean so they come up with a "photographer", that has nothing to do with the storyline, flash Hogan to make Hogan happy. That just didn't make any sense. As far as I am concerned that was a clean pin.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Dec 7, 2013 19:20:46 GMT -5
I'd say it was Fuji's biggest Mania moment. No way. Cheating to win that boardwalk run at Wrestlemania V was The Devious One's finest hour. You got me there.
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