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Post by peter on Dec 8, 2013 1:23:26 GMT -5
I was 20 at the time and a WWF lover my whole life (I watched WCW every week but I hated how they tried to kill the WWF and Bischoff constantly putting them down). I felt at the time that the WWF would never recover and be relegated to number 2 forever. It was depressing for me. It seemed like everyone good was going to WCW and Bret was almost the final straw for me. I did not see in my mind how things would drastically change within 6 months with the WWF roaring back to begin to re-take control. How did you guys feel at the time?
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Dec 8, 2013 1:25:12 GMT -5
I pretty much called the Monday Night Wars for WCW, and thought it was only a matter of time before Undertaker jumps, leaving the WWF to wither away.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 1:28:17 GMT -5
It was also confusing at the time, I didn't know what to think. I was the biggest Bret fan, then the Hart Foundation 'murica hater run made me despise him and become a huge Austin fan. Then the Survivor Series thing was so weird and insider-y that I didn't get it, but I felt sorry for Bret because Shawn Michaels and Vince McMahon were massive assholes. Then he debuted and punched Nick Patrick in the face and restarted the Sting/Hogan match at Starcade for no reason at all. It was a mess, I pretty much just focused on the WWF and rooted for Stone Cold.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 8, 2013 1:29:37 GMT -5
I drooled a lot.
I was like 3 at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 1:30:36 GMT -5
Never for a second felt right. Even if you strip away all the dumb things they did with him, Bret Hart in a WCW ring was just never meant to happen.
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Post by Boo! on Dec 8, 2013 1:34:57 GMT -5
I don't think I cared. Never a very big Hart fan. I thought he was alright but a bit like wallpaper; he was just...there. At the time there were edgier and more engaging people on the roster starting to come through who could talk better, whose match-style I found more entertaining and who I thought had more spark than Bret who I always thought was a bit drab.
I was never tempted to go to WCW at any point during the 90s. When WWF got so bad it was painful to watch I just stopped watching wrestling for a bit. I'd revisit occasionally, but I was never tempted to 'jump' as I despised everything about the WCW product. If Hogan jumping ship in 1994 wasn't enough to lure me, I certainly wouldn't have bothered to turn over to see Bret.
In terms of the whole angle and how it eventually played out, that's something you can only judge in hindsight and from a WWE perspective; you can't really say it didn't work out well.
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Post by Injustice45 on Dec 8, 2013 1:37:12 GMT -5
Bret Hart's WCW music is complete garbage. Sad that his career ended at WCW.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 1:39:46 GMT -5
It felt wrong. I didn't know the exact reasons why, considering I was a kid, but it felt wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 1:41:54 GMT -5
Bret was and is my favorite of all time and this really broke my heart...I hated HBK so much for years cause of this
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Post by agent817 on Dec 8, 2013 1:50:13 GMT -5
Bret Hart's WCW music is complete garbage. Sad that his career ended at WCW. His second theme was actually pretty decent. Anyway, my input: I didn't actually get into wrestling until 1998, so I don't really have much of an opinion. When I first got into it, I mostly checked out WCW and then later WWF. Anyway, I mostly knew of Bret Hart because my relatives sometimes watched wrestling and even had video games like Raw and Royal Rumble and I knew from those games. As for how I felt about him going to WCW, I mostly thought of him as another in the long line of former WWF employees wrestling for WCW. I had no idea that he was in WWF not long before his WCW debut, but if I was into wrestling before 1998, I probably would have thought it was weird. I noticed that he wasn't used right in WCW, turning heel and face more times than you could imagine and being a mid-carder. It just didn't seem right. Hell, I still remember the look on his face when he main evented WCW Saturday Night back in 1998. His facial expression said "Why am I on this show?"
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Post by kamero00 on Dec 8, 2013 3:04:12 GMT -5
His theme was apart of the issue though. Theme's are VERY important in the WWE, and outside the nWo theme, WCW did not even try when it came to that aspect.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 3:29:20 GMT -5
His theme was apart of the issue though. Theme's are VERY important in the WWE, and outside the nWo theme, WCW did not even try when it came to that aspect. Bret had DAT GUITAR SQUEAL. It was like my third favorite thing about him. I hate that Natalya uses it and the Sharpshooter now to get cheap pops. I'm popping in my Bret Hart DVD right f'ing now, as a matter of fact.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 8, 2013 3:33:57 GMT -5
I was very pro-America at the time (Still am, it's easily a Top 5 country and where I keep all my stuff) so I didn't know how WCW was going to try to have Bret make it back into my good graces without outright saying "You know what? You guys gave us the Quad City DJs. Yeah, America's alright."
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Post by celticjobber on Dec 8, 2013 3:45:39 GMT -5
I was pretty upset. Bret had been my favorite wrestler since 1992.
So it sucked that he was going to a company that I had little interest in (I was actually more of a WCW fan before the Nitro era).
And I hated the way Vince and HBK had "screwed" him at Survivor Series.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Dec 8, 2013 3:51:40 GMT -5
Bret would have had better luck jumping to a conclusion on the "jump to conclusions mat" than jumping to WCW.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 4:03:46 GMT -5
I was very pro-America at the time (Still am, it's easily a Top 5 country and where I keep all my stuff) so I didn't know how WCW was going to try to have Bret make it back into my good graces without outright saying "You know what? You guys gave us the Quad City DJs. Yeah, America's alright." Should've used "C'mon N' Ride It" for his theme in WCW. That would've mended many fences in a hurry, and gave us a fantastic visual of Bret trying to do his purposeful strut and arm thrusting to it.
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Post by RedDevil on Dec 8, 2013 6:59:22 GMT -5
I was pretty devastated - he had been my favourite for so long, and had kept me watching during the mid-90s (in fact I almost stopped watching in 1996 when Bret was gone, and HBK was all over the damn show) so the idea of him not being there was crazy for me.
I really hated how things ended - I thought he was the last person who deserved to be treated the way he was, particularly when HBK once again came out of the whole thing on top. My favourite time in wrestling was having the Hart family reunited - that was huge after the previous five years of feuding - but then suddenly it was a nightmare, everything changed.
The first time I watched WCW was after the screwjob. I was only watching for Bret Hart, but they obviously didn't have him appear immediately so I didn't cut ties with the WWF, which is just as well as I'd have missed a lot of great stuff to watch the utter crap that WCW was producing from then on.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 8, 2013 7:22:40 GMT -5
In theory it should have worked. Here was Bret, probably second only to HBK when it came to workrate, going to a company where the real strength it had over WWF was the in-ring quality of its performers. It's telling that aside from the epic Owen tribute match vs. Benoit, the only real match of any quality I remember from Bret's WCW run was the SummerSlam re-hash vs. Curt Hennig.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 8:03:13 GMT -5
"Vince screwed Bret".
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 8, 2013 8:58:44 GMT -5
Fine, for two reasons:1) was on one of my periodic hiatuses from rasslin by that point and 2)never really been a big Bret guy. I like him, but he'd never crack my top 25 or so favorite guys. If there was a tier of ten guys below that, he'd probably be 4/10.
And before anyone grabs the torches and pitchforks, Im not saying that based on anything other than my own fandom and the cheap joke at the end.
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