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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Dec 10, 2013 9:12:05 GMT -5
I want Daniel Bryan to piss off already.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Dec 10, 2013 9:30:06 GMT -5
Would've liked to see Hunter *NOT* get up.
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Post by Rican on Dec 10, 2013 9:31:13 GMT -5
Just watched it. That was fantastic. Cena did a great job, the marathon of finishers was great, and the crowd telling the WWE what they really want made me smile.
I love that so many of Daniel's biggest moments so far have been totally organic and against whatever the WWE wanted the fans to do. The night after Wrestlemania, last night's segment...he's the people's champion whether they give him the belt already or not.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 10, 2013 9:41:21 GMT -5
I just loved the sheepish look on Orton's face. it reminded me of that ep. of the Simpsons where Homer punched out Mr. Burns.
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Post by Germansuplex on Dec 10, 2013 9:49:00 GMT -5
Just re-watched it and I think Orton handled that crowd way better than Triple H did. While Hunter seemed absolutely lost, Orton worked his way around the audience and cut a decent promo. In the end, they didn't chant "Daniel Bryan!" anymore, but "you suck!", which is the reaction the heel wants to get.
This gets, of course, overshadowed by John Cena waving Daniel Bryan around like a puppet.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 10, 2013 9:50:51 GMT -5
That was f***ing majestic. I couldn't give less of a shit about this PPV until that segment, and now I can't WAIT to see what happens. Both promos were great (Cena's way better than Orton's), it telegraphed a lot of good potential storylines and the clusterf*** just gave me the kind of chills I've only had as a wrestling fan a few times since the InVasion.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 10, 2013 10:00:39 GMT -5
Great stuff.
In particular I loved the crowd spreading their collective buttcheeks to drop a massive turd on the Unified Title Story. While getting a unified title is something I want to see soon, this Cena/Orton combo is dreadful. Everything else I liked.
I like how Steph is more fragile than a ref these days. She sold a weak bump as if a sniper just unloaded into her heart. Love it.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 10, 2013 10:05:56 GMT -5
Great stuff. In particular I loved the crowd spreading their collective buttchecks to drop a massive turd on the Unified Title Story. While getting a unified title is something I want to see soon, this Cena/Orton combo is dreadful. Everything else I liked. I like how Steph is more fragile than a ref these days. She sold a weak bump as if a sniper just unloaded into her heart. Love it. Steph is pretty good at dying from spots. Also seems to enjoy getting hit by Orton.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 10:08:09 GMT -5
Something I noticed.
When the crowd was REALLY cheering for Bryan, HBK tried to get them to stop chanting by basically shushing them, which only made them cheer louder.
Mark Henry however, raised Bryan's hand, acknowledging the chants which made the crowd cheer and stop chanting....at least for a little bit.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 10, 2013 10:08:14 GMT -5
Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in, I suppose that's wrestling in a nutshell you just never know where that next great moment is coming from even in a storyline you've disliked up until that point, this is perhaps the first segment that mirrored that feeling by going from the crowd shitting all over it to marking out by the end. Although Cena played the biggest part in turning it around even Orton managed to do his bit when taking digs at the legends, all these years later he's still best as the legend killer. It even ended with a tease (or foreshadowing) of Cena standing alongside The Authority.
Oh and an Ascension ceremony without an appearance from The Ascension? This is the greatest case of False Advertising I've seen since I sued the movie The Never Ending Story (I'm sure somebody has made that joke already but I don't care).
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Post by saintpat on Dec 10, 2013 10:16:21 GMT -5
Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in, I suppose that's wrestling in a nutshell you just never know where that next great moment is coming from even in a storyline you've disliked up until that point, this is perhaps the first segment that mirrored that feeling by going from the crowd shitting all over it to marking out by the end. Although Cena played the biggest part in turning it around even Orton managed to do his bit when taking digs at the legends, all these years later he's still best as the legend killer. It even ended with a tease (or foreshadowing) of Cena standing alongside The Authority. Oh and an Ascension without an appearance from The Ascension, this is the greatest case of False Advertising I've seen since I sued the movie The Never Ending Story (I'm sure somebody has made that joke already but I don't care). This. I thought the Ascension Ceremony was to welcome the new tag team to WWE. I was really impressed that all the former champs assembled to show their respect for the newbies ... then HHH and Orton and Cena and Bryan had to hijack the whole thing.
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Post by Germansuplex on Dec 10, 2013 10:24:52 GMT -5
Something I noticed. When the crowd was REALLY cheering for Bryan, HBK tried to get them to stop chanting by basically shushing them, which only made them cheer louder. Mark Henry however, raised Bryan's hand, acknowledging the chants which made the crowd cheer and stop chanting....at least for a little bit. Look closely, after raising Bryan's hand Henry made a cutthroat gesture to shush the audience.
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Post by Lancers on Dec 10, 2013 10:29:39 GMT -5
Even Dolph turns away when she says it. I anticipate a nuclear heatz story for him.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 10, 2013 10:32:24 GMT -5
Even Dolph turns away when she says it. I anticipate a nuclear heatz story for him. HOLY SHIT GUYS Alberto Del Rio showed an ounce of charisma in that gif as he kinda-semi reacted to the same comment... I'm scared. What does this mean?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 10:48:28 GMT -5
Any good chance this will be on YouTube soon? I want to watch the entire segment again SO badly...... A lot of people still upload the full RAWs, so you can probably see it. Anyway, that was a killer segment, with people beating the crap out of everyone else. Orton sandwiching Swagger in the corner was my personal highlight, along with Triple H punishing Orton for knocking down his wife. I love bizarre endings.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 10:50:35 GMT -5
I just loved the sheepish look on Orton's face. it reminded me of that ep. of the Simpsons where Homer punched out Mr. Burns.
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Post by H-Virus on Dec 10, 2013 10:52:28 GMT -5
Mark Henry caught up in a brawl with 15 other guys and not a single wig was split?
What is the blasphemy!?
Otherwise it was great.
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 10, 2013 10:55:59 GMT -5
dammit now i have to go find the rest of this. i usually set my dvr to run an extra 15 minutes since they never finish on time and it only got as far as Cena telling DB he'll be first in line for a title shot and shakes his hand.
Punk's reaction was epic to the "greatest of them all", HHH looking annoyed by the crowd that even he couldn;t shout over was hilarious. little glares between him and Big Show whenever HHH turned to address the former champs, WWE remembering Swagger was a former world champ, and half the guys in the ring cracking up or trying not to while everyone was chanting for DB (psst Miz you're a heel stop laughing ;P). also the little side conversations punk and Ziggler seemed to be having at the back of the group.
edit- ok just watched it. all this must have started right after my dvr stopped. gotta hand it to orton though. NO ONE has ever been able to regain consciousness so quickly after taking the most devestating finisher in the history of history like he did. Also Steph recovered much more quickly than any ref i've ever seen take a similar bump "she's hardcore! she's hardcore!"
man i can;t wait to see DB in that title unification match, wait, what do you mean he's not in it? everyone was chanting his name at the end he has to be involved...
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Post by BRV on Dec 10, 2013 10:59:29 GMT -5
There was so much that came out of that segment, it put my brain into wrestling overload, to the point where I had to rewatch it this morning and dissect it frame by frame.
- Loved: The crowd at the beginning more or less telling Triple H and WWE as a whole to shove it with regards to a title unification match between Randy Orton and John Cena. The WWE can chalk it up to a hometown kid getting a hometown pop, but that was no different than the Miami crowd after WrestleMania XXVIII, the New Jersey crowd after WrestleMania 29 or the Boston crowd during Survivor Series. They chanted "Dan-iel Bry-an" and "Yes" not to make a name for themselves, but rather because they believed he still should be the focal point of the show, not shoved off to the side with the Great Khali and Rey Mysterio. You could actually see Triple H start to get frustrated that this crowd was not following the script, interrupting the go-home show for "the biggest match ever" and Mark Henry even showed it when he raised Bryan's arm, then did the "cut it out" throat slash gesture.
- Loved: CM Punk's "ya gotta be f***in' kiddin' me" face when Triple H was referred to as this holy deity of professional wrestling. Masterful. Right up there with him and William Regal laughing and mouthing "He's right" when Bryan said he was better than The Miz during season one of NXT.
- Hated: Randy Orton's desperate promo. The crowd was crapping on it, he was bombing, showing that patented inability to handle anything properly when even the slightest thing goes awry, and the mentions of Mick Foley, Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart just reeked of desperation to get any sort of heat other than "shut the hell up" heat.
- Liked, but also kind of hated: John Cena's promo. I hated that he siphoned off Daniel Bryan's heat and put that spotlight squarely on himself, as it is wont to do, but after that he really brought it. However, I LOATHED the whole "look at all the chances I've given to plucky underdogs!" aspect of his promo. The same "You've been here for so long but you've never accomplished anything" promo he threw at Orton was the exact same one he directed at Dolph Ziggler last December.
- Loved: How little CM Punk cared about breaking apart Orton and Cena in the brawl. When they go at it, focus on him. He doesn't give a single f***, and then he's only prompted to care after Orton throws hands at him. From there on, the beautiful craziness was bountiful.
- Loved: CM Punk responding and immediately going right after Triple H, instead of pulling a Big Show and moping around for six weeks. This goes back to his 2011 character who knew that he could go to Ring of Honor or New Japan Pro Wrestling, the character who doesn't need WWE, so he can punch the boss and not really care about the repercussions.
- Loved: FINISHERFEST 2013!!! God this was magical. Right on par with the final SmackDown before Survivor Series 2011, when everybody was just connecting finisers on everyone else. And it all made sense. HBK stands up for his friend Triple H. Daniel Bryan finally gets vengeance on Shawn Michaels. Orton goes after Bryan, because no matter how hard they tried to wrap it up after Hell in a Cell, there's still venom in that feud.
- Loved: The Seattle crowd dumping on Stephanie McMahon getting bowled over. Look, I despise attacking women in wrestling to get the crowd on your side. I saw no benefits to Stone Cold Steve Austin giving Stacy Keibler a Stunner for politely refusing a beer, and I didn't understand why John Cena needed to give Lita the FU at the end of the Live Sex Celebration. That being said, holy god has Stephanie McMahon been a massive c-word since she returned to our screens in the spring. I liked the announcers giving it the "serious voice" treatment as the crowd went positively bonkers.
- Loved: Triple H giving Orton the Pedigree. I'd like to think that even though he's dubbed Orton the Face of the WWE, he still never fully trusted Orton after what he did to his wife and family in 2009, and his first and only response after consoling Stephanie was to attack Orton, because this is technically par for the course for Randy, to knock out Stephanie.
- Liked, but will end up hating: Cena helping the Authority bring Stephanie to her feet. Someone earlier said the phrase "red herring" and it's perfect. Having Cena standing alongside Triple H, Stephanie and Kane while Orton was laid out looks like the perfect planting of the seeds for the long-awaited Cena heel turn...but it's still not going to happen. That being said, if it does (and again, IT WON'T) this was the perfect way to end Raw. Well, except for...
- Hated: After all this chaos, all this insanity, with the crowd going wild, chanting for Daniel Bryan the whole time, whose music do we get? TRIPLE H.
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Post by Rican on Dec 10, 2013 11:10:43 GMT -5
Punk attacking Triple H made it feel like this entire thing started with his pipe bomb promo two years ago. I hope the Wrestlemania build brings it all full circle with Bryan and Punk vs. The Authority.
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