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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 20:32:13 GMT -5
When the product is boring as shit with nothing really happening for at least 6 months it makes a great segment like this stand out even more.
The fact this weeks Raw did nothing to build to the ppv, had no progression at all and was so boring made this awesome segment 10000x better and it was already unf***ingbelivably good.
Cena's promo was great as well.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Dec 10, 2013 20:41:49 GMT -5
Thanks for going over so much on time, that despite me having the DVR record an extra ten minutes, I still missed the end.
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Post by CH Punk on Dec 10, 2013 21:11:47 GMT -5
Even Dolph turns away when she says it. I anticipate a nuclear heatz story for him. HOLY SHIT GUYS Alberto Del Rio showed an ounce of charisma in that gif as he kinda-semi reacted to the same comment... I'm scared. What does this mean? He was under the effects of a concussion. He probably didn't even know what planet he was on.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 10, 2013 21:14:37 GMT -5
Did Del Rio have a black eye or was he wearing guyliner?
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Dec 10, 2013 21:29:25 GMT -5
Did Del Rio have a black eye or was he wearing guyliner? Whiny goth Alberto del Rio is the gimmick that will finally get him over.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Dec 10, 2013 22:07:19 GMT -5
Something I noticed. When the crowd was REALLY cheering for Bryan, HBK tried to get them to stop chanting by basically shushing them, which only made them cheer louder. Mark Henry however, raised Bryan's hand, acknowledging the chants which made the crowd cheer and stop chanting....at least for a little bit. The throat slash thing afterwards seemed desperate.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Dec 10, 2013 23:43:33 GMT -5
It was a great ending, but I fear it's setting up more for an Authority face-turn than a Cena heel-turn. Which means that the possible Bryan/HBK or Punk/Bryan vs HHH/HBK feud may be Punk/Bryan heel and HHH/HBK face.
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Post by molson5 on Dec 11, 2013 0:44:33 GMT -5
I'm surprised so many people thing the WWE "doesn't want the fans to cheer Bryan". I think it's exactly the point of the angle. They could end up going too far with it, but if they really wanted him to be irrelevant, they wouldn't acknowledge him and making him the focal point of angles. I think HHH is trying to be clever and be viewed as "holding down Bryan", because he knows that will make himself a more hated heel and Bryan more popular. They knew he'd be cheered in Washington during that segment.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 11, 2013 0:54:23 GMT -5
It was a great ending, but I fear it's setting up more for an Authority face-turn than a Cena heel-turn. Which means that the possible Bryan/HBK or Punk/Bryan vs HHH/HBK feud may be Punk/Bryan heel and HHH/HBK face. I don't think its setting up for either. I think it's just to write Orton out of the story. HHH would probably continue to rule with an iron fist with a new chosen guy by his side, while Orton goes on as a crazed lone wolf heel without any backing. The Authority shouldn't turn face. But Orton shouldn't either. And I don't think we can have Heel Cena AND Heel Orton in the Authority without one marginalizing the other. If Cena wins the title, and Orton loses the rematch clause match afterwards and is written out of the title picture, that gives Orton some fuel to go psycho, vent his frustration on some other random face, and they can go from their Another part of me thinks it may be another swerve. Orton may unify the belts, but unlike Cena, he absolutely HAS to be in the primary story to be a big deal. Orton probably "needs" the title/the accolade of unifying the titles more than Cena does. Everyone knows that Cena "always" "overcomes the odds", so the Authority stacking the deck against Cena only makes the outcome of "Spoiler: Cena Wins" too obvious. The constant Authority dissension is just a way to make the outcome less obvious.
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Post by Digital Witness on Dec 11, 2013 3:13:39 GMT -5
Did Del Rio have a black eye or was he wearing guyliner? Whiny goth Alberto del Rio is the gimmick that will finally get him over. What about destiny? What about Del Rio?
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Post by Digital Witness on Dec 11, 2013 3:23:12 GMT -5
Something I noticed. When the crowd was REALLY cheering for Bryan, HBK tried to get them to stop chanting by basically shushing them, which only made them cheer louder. Mark Henry however, raised Bryan's hand, acknowledging the chants which made the crowd cheer and stop chanting....at least for a little bit. The throat slash thing afterwards seemed desperate. You know, that was a pretty decent move on Henry's part to try and say "hey, we get it, can we move on please?" and it seemed to work for a moment. I say props to Mark Henry for trying to get that segment to move on.
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 11, 2013 9:35:40 GMT -5
Something I noticed. When the crowd was REALLY cheering for Bryan, HBK tried to get them to stop chanting by basically shushing them, which only made them cheer louder. Mark Henry however, raised Bryan's hand, acknowledging the chants which made the crowd cheer and stop chanting....at least for a little bit. The throat slash thing afterwards seemed desperate. don;t worry as we speak Roger Goddell is hard at work trying to figure out how much he can fine Mark henry for making that gesture on television.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Dec 11, 2013 10:26:38 GMT -5
I'm surprised so many people thing the WWE "doesn't want the fans to cheer Bryan". I think it's exactly the point of the angle. They could end up going too far with it, but if they really wanted him to be irrelevant, they wouldn't acknowledge him and making him the focal point of angles. I think HHH is trying to be clever and be viewed as "holding down Bryan", because he knows that will make himself a more hated heel and Bryan more popular. They knew he'd be cheered in Washington during that segment. Agreed fully. That Daniel Bryan was voted Superstar of the Year whether it was rigged or not, shows they want the crowd on Bryan's side. Heck, if it WAS rigged than that's even more ammunition to say they want them to cheer Bryan.
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Post by H-Virus on Dec 11, 2013 10:31:30 GMT -5
I still think that the plan is to have Bryan win the Rumble and then go on to beat a/the champion at Wrestlemania, so until that doesn't happen, I can only believe that the Rise of Bryan storyline is still ongoing.
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Post by jemtruman on Dec 11, 2013 16:01:10 GMT -5
Just my two cents, but I legitimately teared up during the first round of Daniel Bryan chants. And I physically laughed out loud over HHH's "that's a lot of family for one building, Daniel." comment.
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Post by HBL on Dec 11, 2013 16:05:23 GMT -5
Loved every minute of the ending,and been watching it again and again since. That was absolutely fantastic. Marked all over the entire segment,but when Punk got thrown away by Hunter and after gave ''that'' look I almost smashed my chair with excitement. Got chills,f***ing chills.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 11, 2013 16:32:25 GMT -5
Did Del Rio have a black eye or was he wearing guyliner? Whiny goth Alberto del Rio is the gimmick that will finally get him over. no. no it won't. why would you say that?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 11, 2013 16:34:22 GMT -5
It was a great ending, but I fear it's setting up more for an Authority face-turn than a Cena heel-turn. Which means that the possible Bryan/HBK or Punk/Bryan vs HHH/HBK feud may be Punk/Bryan heel and HHH/HBK face. I don't think its setting up for either. I think it's just to write Orton out of the story. HHH would probably continue to rule with an iron fist with a new chosen guy by his side, while Orton goes on as a crazed lone wolf heel without any backing. The Authority shouldn't turn face. But Orton shouldn't either. And I don't think we can have Heel Cena AND Heel Orton in the Authority without one marginalizing the other. If Cena wins the title, and Orton loses the rematch clause match afterwards and is written out of the title picture, that gives Orton some fuel to go psycho, vent his frustration on some other random face, and they can go from their it'll be Zack Ryder, and Michael Cole will go on about how he's never seen Orton so aggressive before.
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Post by Essential1 on Dec 11, 2013 21:15:59 GMT -5
I liked Ortons promo bettet than Cena's "Listen to daddy I'm better" routine and the brawl was really fun. It seems nobody has mentioned it but the highlight for me was HBK superkicking Punk. We never got those two in a match together and to see a semi heel HBK do that to Punk was quite special.
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