Flair Vs. Vader Starrcade 1993

[Amazing Kitsune]

So, I've heard about this match for a long time but I didn't get around to seeing it until a few minutes ago.

Wow.

That was one of the best matches I've ever seen. Vader was the ultimate dominant monster and Flair was the guy who just couldn't beat him. Flair would get a little offense in and Vader would quickly no-sell it and shut it down. This happened repeatedly in the beginning of the match. Flair was set up as one of the all time greats, but Vader was simply bigger, stronger, and meaner. Flair would keep trying to get bits of offense in and Vader would just destroy him. Finally, towards the middle Flair finally gets in a flurry of offense and the crowd just goes bananas because they can't believe it. It was just amazing how they worked the crowd. Flair's selling was very well done--literally screaming in pain. Their work was really stiff and Flair's punches in particular looked so good he may have been just punching Vader. Even though Vader loss, he still looked dominant in losing--because Flair only barely won the match.

The crowd popped huge when he pinned Vader. He walked off with the title around his waist as the confetti fell from the sky. It was beautiful.

Flair should have hung it up right after that. (Granted, we wouldn't have had several great moments--but it just didn't get any better than this match)

[RowdyRobbyPiper]

Shortly after that was when Hogan and co. arrived in WCW and wound up undermining the greatness of that match and that moment with Vader.

[Sir Woodrow]

Dec 10, 2013 23:07:26 GMT -5 RowdyRobbyPiper said:

Shortly after that was when Hogan and co. arrived in WCW and wound up undermining the greatness of that match and that moment with Vader.

Kind of like AJ & company in TNA late 2009

[Jiren]

A GREAT match shame the "Hogan & his amazing friends" era soon followed

["Playboy" Don Douglas]

Flair mentioned in his book that Vader, as he usually did, beat the hell out of him and actually said something like, "If you don't start fighting back, I'm gonna kick your ass," so Flair started giving it right back. That's how Johnny Valentine was - he'd stiff the hell out of you, but he expected you to give it back to him.

[Amazing Kitsune]

Dec 11, 2013 13:58:39 GMT -5 "Playboy" Don Douglas said:

Flair mentioned in his book that Vader, as he usually did, beat the hell out of him and actually said something like, "If you don't start fighting back, I'm gonna kick your ass," so Flair started giving it right back. That's how Johnny Valentine was - he'd stiff the hell out of you, but he expected you to give it back to him.

I suspected that, some of the moves both guys used looked way too brutal to just be good technique.

[jason1980s]

Biggest disappointment to me was the Terry Taylor/Equalizer match didn't make the PPV. The promos for the PPV always seemed to indicate it would be a PPV match only for Tony Schiavone to say the match already took place as a pre-show match. What a bummer for a 10 year old who loved the lower card guys.
Also disappointed Boss couldn't wear his blue shirt, as he wore on Saturday Night.

Overall, I thought it was a pretty strong PPV for WCW.

[Jiren]

Dec 11, 2013 14:55:38 GMT -5 jason1980s said:

Biggest disappointment to me was the Terry Taylor/Equalizer match didn't make the PPV. The promos for the PPV always seemed to indicate it would be a PPV match only for Tony Schiavone to say the match already took place as a pre-show match. What a bummer for a 10 year old who loved the lower card guys.
Also disappointed Boss couldn't wear his blue shirt, as he wore on Saturday Night.

Overall, I thought it was a pretty strong PPV for WCW.

It was good

Sadly the same can't be said about Starrcade 94 *shudder*

[cherry coloured funk]

My first WCW ppv, and I was hooked............. but then Hogan.

[Medicinal Thunder Liger]

Vader's top rope clotheslines in this match too are a thing of epic proportions