agent817
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Post by agent817 on Dec 15, 2013 9:13:57 GMT -5
Isn't TNA a good example of coming with the lamest ideas for gimmick matches? I still don't quite understand the concept of the "King of the Mountain" match. Yes, I have seen such a match before, but it's all confusing when someone gets pinned or submits, he has to go into a penalty box and the idea for the most part is to hang the belt above you.
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Post by wildojinx on Dec 15, 2013 9:29:35 GMT -5
Any strap match where you have to touch all the turnbuckles. The only one i enjoyed was Batista vs JBL on Smackdown in 2005, and thats just because i had gone without any watching any wrestling (not by choice) for a while, so i was more liking the opportunity to watch again. The King of the Mountain match is also inane (though at least there you can use the belt as a weapon).
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 15, 2013 9:49:33 GMT -5
Iron-Man matches, no doubt. If two guys are gonna wrestle for an hour, cool! But don't tell me they are going to wrestle for an hour. That sucks all of the drama of the match for me. It's a cool idea in theory but it just doesn't work in practice, IMO.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Dec 15, 2013 12:54:17 GMT -5
1. Lumberjack. They've always bored me.
2. Cage, which is a real shame because back then they were considered feud enders. It's reputation has been undermined so much that when Heyman revealed the stip for Lesnar's match with HHH at Extreme Rules I just let out a big sigh. At least 'E finally updated the design so it looks somewhat foreboding unlike the previous design they used for too long.
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Dec 15, 2013 16:54:29 GMT -5
I loathe lumberjack matches.
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Post by Jiren on Dec 15, 2013 16:57:38 GMT -5
Iron-Man matches, no doubt. If two guys are gonna wrestle for an hour, cool! But don't tell me they are going to wrestle for an hour. That sucks all of the drama of the match for me. It's a cool idea in theory but it just doesn't work in practice, IMO. This
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Post by Starshine on Dec 15, 2013 17:25:51 GMT -5
Generally ones that don't involve physically beating your opponent with the exception of ladder matches, and steel cages without the open door. E.g. stretcher matches, 'x' on a pole matches, strap matches, or any other sort of match that seems like an obstacle course rather than a fight.
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Post by NOwave on Dec 15, 2013 18:45:47 GMT -5
I generally agree with this, have to point out the exception that proves the rule: Ric Flair-Terry Funk "I Quit" Match at the Clash of the Champions in 1989. Two great workers, both still in their prime, in the blowoff match of a well-built feud. www.youtube.com/watch?v=HitHAHRTmcU
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Post by Kash Flagg on Dec 15, 2013 18:50:26 GMT -5
Scaffold matches are stupid , dangerous, and the matches generally suck ass.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 15, 2013 18:55:18 GMT -5
Iron Match because the last 3 minutes is the most important part of the match. If they say it's for a hour, come back in 57 minutes when it get really interesting.
First Blood because the match can end at any time by accident or waiting around for someone to blade.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 19:06:03 GMT -5
The match where you glue glass to your hands and wrestle that way Taipei Deathmatch.
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Post by agent817 on Dec 16, 2013 12:14:19 GMT -5
Any strap match where you have to touch all the turnbuckles. The only one i enjoyed was Batista vs JBL on Smackdown in 2005, and thats just because i had gone without any watching any wrestling (not by choice) for a while, so i was more liking the opportunity to watch again. The King of the Mountain match is also inane (though at least there you can use the belt as a weapon). There are some exceptions I can make. The Texas Bullrope Match at GAB 2004 is one that I actually enjoyed, despite some problems with the lights. I also liked Steve Austin vs. Savio Vega at "IYH: Beware of Dog."
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 16, 2013 13:37:48 GMT -5
Coal Miner's Glove match, for being on the damn wheel and it never landing on it.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Dec 16, 2013 14:02:12 GMT -5
Chairs Match: The idea that its no DQ but...you can only used chairs if you use anything else you get disqualified. GTFO. You don't get disqualified for using more than the ladder in Ladder matches or more than the table in Tables Matches. But in the Chairs Match you can only hit people with chairs.
Inferno Matches: That Kane vs. Bray Wyatt match from earlier this year at Summerslam was just...bad. They could have just had regular match, this match is all about spectacle but forget that. Spectacle by itself sucks.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 16, 2013 14:10:18 GMT -5
On a pole,
reverse battle royals... though it's been a while since TNA used that at least...
Inferno matches - it's pretty obvious from the get go who is going to win.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Dec 16, 2013 14:46:13 GMT -5
Inferno Matches: That Kane vs. Bray Wyatt match from earlier this year at Summerslam was just...bad. They could have just had regular match, this match is all about spectacle but forget that. Spectacle by itself sucks. that wasn't an inferno match. in an inferno match the goal is to set your opponent on fire. in that match the fire was there just to keep people out of the ring
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Post by agent817 on Dec 16, 2013 15:52:37 GMT -5
Inferno Matches: That Kane vs. Bray Wyatt match from earlier this year at Summerslam was just...bad. They could have just had regular match, this match is all about spectacle but forget that. Spectacle by itself sucks. that wasn't an inferno match. in an inferno match the goal is to set your opponent on fire. in that match the fire was there just to keep people out of the ring You know, you mention something like that, that kind of reminds me of the Iron Circle match at Fully Loaded 1999. That type of match is also better suited for a martial arts movie or even a fighting game, whatever the rules were supposed to be anyway.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Dec 16, 2013 16:11:33 GMT -5
Inferno Matches: That Kane vs. Bray Wyatt match from earlier this year at Summerslam was just...bad. They could have just had regular match, this match is all about spectacle but forget that. Spectacle by itself sucks. that wasn't an inferno match. in an inferno match the goal is to set your opponent on fire. in that match the fire was there just to keep people out of the ring Yeah they called it a 'ring of fire' match instead and made it pin/submission only but the stipulation didn't matter because The Wyatt Family eventually got into the ring anyway.
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Post by Pipe_Bomb2k13 on Dec 16, 2013 16:44:42 GMT -5
Much like the Punjabi Prison match people have already said then I also have to go with the Kennel from Hell, while the idea is good in principal the execution of it just plain sucked.
While on I'm on it whatever that big red dome cage thing TNA did a few years ago which nobody could see into made no sense if you can't see whats happening.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 16, 2013 22:43:46 GMT -5
First Blood matches Strap matches where you have to touch the corners to win. Blindfold matches Scaffold matches Cage matches where you have to escape to win. Tables matches. And really: Generally ones that don't involve physically beating your opponent with the exception of ladder matches, and steel cages without the open door. E.g. stretcher matches, 'x' on a pole matches, strap matches, or any other sort of match that seems like an obstacle course rather than a fight.
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