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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 11:57:52 GMT -5
Hey Punk Hey Punk, don't make it bad Bang a diva and you'll feel better Remember to let her into your bus Then you can start to make it better Hey Punk, don't be afraid You knew that your girlfriend was crazy when you met her The minute you bang some other chicks Then you'll begin to feel better And any time you see her around Hey Punk, get down Don't let her know that you're there For well you know that it's a fool Who plays it cool When his girlfriend is crazy. Na na na naa-naa na-na-naa naaa Hey Punk, don't let me down There's lots of divas on the roster, now go and bang them Remember to let her into your bus Then you can start to make it better So slide it out and slide it in Hey Punk, begin There's plenty of divas to perform with And don't you know that it's just you Hey Punk, you'll do The movement you need is in the hips Na na na naa-naa na-na-naa naaa Yeah Hey, Punk, don't make it bad Bang a diva And you'll feel better The minute that you bang some other chicks Then you begin To feel better Better, better, better, better, better Whoa! Yeah Na na na na-na-na-naa Na-na-na-naa, hey, Punk Na na na na-na-na-naa Na-na-na-naa, hey, Punk Na na na na-na-na-naa Na-na-na-naa, hey, Punk Na na na na-na-na-naa Na-na-na-naa, hey, Punk Punk, Punky, Punky, Punky, Punky, Punky Ow! wow!
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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 15, 2013 11:58:16 GMT -5
Wait, wasn't this thread about some incident at Tribute to the Troops? How the hell did I get wrapped up in a discussion about title belts and whether or not AJ's a mark for herself? ...AJ threads are weird. Was it this bad during the Mickie James years?
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 15, 2013 11:58:25 GMT -5
IRL, they mean less than nothing though. Sure, as far as WWE's story goes, it means a ton in the same way that a fake gun can portrayed as an actual threat when in a TV drama. At the end of the day, though, a belt is absolutely a prop. It is an object designed to push along a story. That's all it's ever been. Doesn't mean it should be treated highly in the story but IRL, I don't see how anybody can seriously say it's not a prop. Are you proud when you get a promotion? How about when your boss trusts you with an important project that is highly visible, knowing you'll do a great job with it? Are those things considered markers of career success? And if they are, how can anyone not understand the feeling of accomplishment that a wrestler gets when they are trusted with a title run? I'm not trying to say that AJ shouldn't be proud. I'm not saying that a wrestler winning a title shouldn't be a big deal in their life. I'm not trying to imply ANY of this. Maybe it's my fault for not being clear about that but I think wires are starting to get crossed here. The point that I am making is that, in the real world, title belts mean nothing. They are a prop. Again, not saying that they shouldn't be treated as important or that a wrestler can't be proud for winning one. They are, by definition, a prop. A specific type of prop sure but still a prop.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 15, 2013 11:58:36 GMT -5
...BUT, they are still props. It doesn't matter if they are different, a prop is a prop. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make now. In WWE's universe, a title should be more important than a table. Yes. I agree. That doesn't change the fact that the belt is an object used to push along story in a work of fiction. IE. A prop. No, a macguffinA very specific type of prop, different from other props. That's the point I'm making. Alright but that doesn't change the fact that it's still a prop. A specific type of prop, no doubt, but still a prop. I'm not even sure what we're discussing now. It's splitting hairs at this point.
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Post by Andy Martin on Dec 15, 2013 11:59:06 GMT -5
Wait, wasn't this thread about some incident at Tribute to the Troops? How the hell did I get wrapped up in a discussion about title belts and whether or not AJ's a mark for herself? ...AJ threads are weird. Was it this bad during the Mickie James years? Perhaps worse
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 15, 2013 12:00:12 GMT -5
Wait, wasn't this thread about some incident at Tribute to the Troops? How the hell did I get wrapped up in a discussion about title belts and whether or not AJ's a mark for herself? ...AJ threads are weird. Was it this bad during the Mickie James years? I wanna say it was worse. It was really creepy back then. Like, just short of getting Mickie tattoos as a show of solidarity.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Dec 15, 2013 12:00:26 GMT -5
So guys how about AJ causing an incident at Tribute to the Troops? That's something happened.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 15, 2013 12:00:37 GMT -5
I never worshiped in the church of Meltzer. I came from the old school Apter mags era where my wrestling news was kayfabe and the wrestlers' personal lives stay hidden unless for storyline purposes. Him talking about ppv numbers and business deals, cool. Talking about gossip and people's relationships, not so much. How can Apter mags possibly be considered news of any sort when they're completely fake? I'm sorry, clearly we're at an impasse the size of the Atlantic Ocean, I'm not sure we're gonna reach common ground. They were for entertainment purposes. They advanced storylines and developed characters. They rarely went behind the scenes. Because just like in the Wizard of OZ, you're are not going to like what you see behind the curtain.
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Post by Steveweiser on Dec 15, 2013 12:01:37 GMT -5
Wait, wasn't this thread about some incident at Tribute to the Troops? How the hell did I get wrapped up in a discussion about title belts and whether or not AJ's a mark for herself? ...AJ threads are weird. At this point, I'm not even surprised about that. It seems like a lot of AJ threads come back to that f***ing tattoo for some reason. In fact, it just goes back to when Meltzer called her a mark for getting it. Hell if I know why, but it does. He himself didn't call AJ a mark for that - he said that people in WWE called her a mark.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 15, 2013 12:02:09 GMT -5
No, a macguffinA very specific type of prop, different from other props. That's the point I'm making. Alright but that doesn't change the fact that it's still a prop. A specific type of prop, no doubt, but still a prop. I'm not even sure what we're discussing now. It's splitting hairs at this point. It isn't, because splitting hairs is about distinctions which mean nothing. Understanding the meaning of a belt in the context of wrestling is an essential point. If people don't get this point, you end up with Russo booking.
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 15, 2013 12:02:12 GMT -5
It's been out for over 7 years. He and 2 ladies got it on a bathtub. Apparently it was a stunt penis. And no I'm not making that up. This is by far more interesting to me than whatever else is being posted in this thread.
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 15, 2013 12:02:40 GMT -5
Okay so if this thread is any indication, Punk and Beadle were debating the merits of titles as props or not, AJ came in, believed that Beadle was defending the quality of Dave Meltzer as a journalist and subsequently threw a fit, which TMZ covered, which Lita (who was herself debating whether or not to get a tattoo) then heard about, told the WWE office who then decided to give the divas title to Natalya that they were already going to give her. And Chris Sabin was there.
I think I'm close.
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Post by Piccolo on Dec 15, 2013 12:03:05 GMT -5
Are you proud when you get a promotion? How about when your boss trusts you with an important project that is highly visible, knowing you'll do a great job with it? Are those things considered markers of career success? And if they are, how can anyone not understand the feeling of accomplishment that a wrestler gets when they are trusted with a title run? I'm not trying to say that AJ shouldn't be proud. I'm not saying that a wrestler winning a title shouldn't be a big deal in their life. I'm not trying to imply ANY of this. Maybe it's my fault for not being clear about that but I think wires are starting to get crossed here. The point that I am making is that, in the real world, title belts mean nothing. They are a prop. Again, not saying that they shouldn't be treated as important or that a wrestler can't be proud for winning one. They are, by definition, a prop. A specific type of prop sure but still a prop. Oh. I thought the argument was over why AJ got a tattoo to commemorate an important career milestone, which was winning the belt. Ie, that she was a mark for herself because she cared.
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Post by stealthamo on Dec 15, 2013 12:03:07 GMT -5
At this point, I'm not even surprised about that. It seems like a lot of AJ threads come back to that f***ing tattoo for some reason. In fact, it just goes back to when Meltzer called her a mark for getting it. Hell if I know why, but it does. He himself didn't call AJ a mark for that - he said that people in WWE called her a mark. It was? Sorry about that. I just remember a huge hullabaloo when the thread first popped up, and Meltzer's name kept getting brought up, so I thought he said something about it. My bad.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 15, 2013 12:03:06 GMT -5
So guys how about AJ causing an incident at Tribute to the Troops? That's something happened. It may have happened, but we probably aren't getting the full picture.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 15, 2013 12:03:07 GMT -5
Wait, wasn't this thread about some incident at Tribute to the Troops? How the hell did I get wrapped up in a discussion about title belts and whether or not AJ's a mark for herself? ...AJ threads are weird. Was it this bad during the Mickie James years? No one called in a bomb threat to Titan Towers......yet.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Dec 15, 2013 12:03:09 GMT -5
They've run her ragged for the past year. Appearing on almost every taping, and doing house shows too. And working injured. She was bound to snap at some point.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 15, 2013 12:03:20 GMT -5
Alright but that doesn't change the fact that it's still a prop. A specific type of prop, no doubt, but still a prop. I'm not even sure what we're discussing now. It's splitting hairs at this point. It isn't, because splitting hairs is about distinctions which mean nothing. Understanding the meaning of a belt in the context of wrestling is an essential point. If people don't get this point, you end up with Russo booking. ...Alright Hit Girl, you win. Whatever, I'm done. You got the last word in.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 12:03:23 GMT -5
If only the actual Divas division had this much passion and energy, they could actually...draw a couple of fans!
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Post by Andy Martin on Dec 15, 2013 12:03:48 GMT -5
Okay so if this thread is any indication, Punk and Beadle were debating the merits of titles as props or not, AJ came in, believed that Beadle was defending the quality of Dave Meltzer as a journalist and subsequently threw a fit, which TMZ covered, which Lita then heard about, told the WWE who then decided to give the divas title to Natalya that they were already going to give her. And Chris Sabin was there. I think I'm close. Nailed it.
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