How would you have done the walkout?

[tekkenguy]

The vote of no confidence and superstar walkout of October 3, 2011 was one of the most exciting angles on WWE TV. Unfortunately, it was ruined the next week when Johnny Ace was appointed the new GM and status quo returned.

How would you have done that angle to have made it work?

[Sparkybob]

I wouldn't have booked it.

[Dave the Dave]

Dec 17, 2013 19:22:59 GMT -5 Sparkybob said:

I wouldn't have booked it.

Not what they asked.

I liked how they did it but it was hard to just have 4 guys on the show. And Punk being one of them didn't make sense.

I'd have had Vince bribe them all back in and put HHH through hell while no one listens to him. Or something

[Sparkybob]

Alright, alright fine.

Have the wwe hire back old legends like Hacksaw etc to fill out the card and since Vince doesn't have writers, he starts recycling scripts from 1994.

[mizerable]

Not burying the roster by comparing them to a broom.

[El Hijo del Havoc]

Have the 4 of them re-enacting old Raw scripts since 1997 for 2 hours

[BRV]

The two biggest issues I had with the walkout, and how they should have corrected it:

- Find a way to make it look like the walkout was a noble cause, not a way to make Triple H look like the conquering hero while the rest of the roster appeared to be petulant children.

- When the roster is protesting, for the love of all that is holy, do not have CM Punk be one of the guys that stands by the side of the company, and especially don't neuter him and turn him into Triple H's pathetic lap dog.

[BorneAgain]

First off, Beth Phoenix never once says, "Hunter, we're girls!" Second, Truth and Miz make a show of attacking people at all sorts of events, and they're attacks are genuinely brutal. Third, not everybody walks out at first. Many heels and a few scant babyfaces do, but there's still just enough guys to keep a show going on Raw for a little while. On SD, the assorted striking wrestlers more less converge to convince the WWE to remove HHH from power (and make certain threats about walking out on Teddy if he doesn't support their cause). You have a situation for a while on Raw with the striking wrestlers constantly outside the arena or in the audience, while the pro and anti-HHH supporters get into confrontations on SD.

Miz and Truth pick up on this and start attacking Raw exclusive talent which further erodes HHH's support in spite of his attempts at better security. Triple H even tries utilizing NXT and FCW talent, but eventually an attack on Booker T causes Cole, JR, and Lawler to walk out, convinced that he can't keep them safe. This is the last straw and the WWE board removes him from power, but not before HHH rehires Miz and Truth and books them against Cena and Rock, (two of the many babyfaces who have volunteered to finally get their hands on Awesome Truth).

[MrBRulzOK]

Well the problem was that they made their entire roster look like total cowards who were afraid of two guys who had attacked people a few times. Not ended their careers. Not put them in the hospital. Just... they attacked them a few times, and they seemed to be fine weeks later. The worst thing they did was knock down a random cameraman. It was ridiculous.

Who in their right mind would be so afraid of R-Truth and The Miz that they'd rather walk out of the company then risk having the same thing happen to them? I mean R-Truth was intimidating when he was a heel, sure, but The Miz?

If they were going to do something like this they needed to have it be based off a much bigger threat then that. If it had been The Nexus, that would've worked. The Shield or the Wyatt Family? That would've worked too.

But R-Truth and The Miz? It's preposterous. It just made everybody look worthless.

And they needed to have it be something serious. Like CM Punk getting put out of action for months. Or Cena. Or hell, even Del Rio would've worked.

Not to mention I also would not have resolved it the next week. They didn't even spend half-an-hour before we were back to the status quo when Raw started. It just seemed like nothing more than something they did just because they thought it was a good idea, but in doing so they had no situation prepared that it would make sense.

So I would've had it be a much bigger threat that was the catalyst, I wouldn't have had all the babyfaces walk out, maybe had them all leaving slowly one by one out of reluctance. And I would've protected more than just a handful of guys like they did with Punk, Cena, and Sheamus by not having them even be in the segment to begin with.

[PKO]

Dec 17, 2013 19:53:19 GMT -5 MrBRulzOK said:

Well the problem was that they made their entire roster look like total cowards who were afraid of two guys who had attacked people a few times. Not ended their careers. Not put them in the hospital. Just... they attacked them a few times, and they seemed to be fine weeks later. The worst thing they did was knock down a random cameraman. It was ridiculous.

Who in their right mind would be so afraid of R-Truth and The Miz that they'd rather walk out of the company then risk having the same thing happen to them? I mean R-Truth was intimidating when he was a heel, sure, but The Miz?

If they were going to do something like this they needed to have it be based off a much bigger threat then that. If it had been The Nexus, that would've worked. The Shield or the Wyatt Family? That would've worked too.

But R-Truth and The Miz? It's preposterous. It just made everybody look worthless.

And they needed to have it be something serious. Like CM Punk getting put out of action for months. Or Cena. Or hell, even Del Rio would've worked.

Not to mention I also would not have resolved it the next week. They didn't even spend half-an-hour before we were back to the status quo when Raw started. It just seemed like nothing more than something they did just because they thought it was a good idea, but in doing so they had no situation prepared that it would make sense.

So I would've had it be a much bigger threat that was the catalyst, I wouldn't have had all the babyfaces walk out, maybe had them all leaving slowly one by one out of reluctance. And I would've protected more than just a handful of guys like they did with Punk, Cena, and Sheamus by not having them even be in the segment to begin with.

Agree with all of this.

It was an intriguing storyline on paper but the execution was just poor. After all the shit that's gone down over the years a few Miz/Truth attacks caused a mass walkout? And then all the faces are happy to go back to work once obvious bad guy Johnny Ace gets put in charge? That makes everyone look like idiots.

And HHH's broomstick remark is literally one of my least favourite comments since watching wrestling.

[Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks]

I would have given the infamous "Hunner ... Hunner ... we're girls" line to Wade Barrett instead. An awkward pause follows, and the camera pans around to show expressions of dawning realization on everyone's faces, as if this is somehow the best argument ever. Everyone starts parroting the line in "I'm Spartacus!" fashion, until Sin Cara Azul puts a pigtailed wig over his mask and tries to do a sassy triple-snap gesture. He botches the final snap and smacks Daniel Bryan right in the eye.

Bryan sells it ala Terry Funk after Jerry Lawler kicked the spike into his face, leading to an all-out brawl until everyone manages to get a hold of themselves and offer mutual apologies. Cara then gives Hunter the most accusing point of all time, as if to say "this is all your fault".

Everyone walks out, and next week we get the return of Pirate Bryan with the eyepatch.

[tekkenguy]

Dec 17, 2013 19:53:19 GMT -5 MrBRulzOK said:

Well the problem was that they made their entire roster look like total cowards who were afraid of two guys who had attacked people a few times. Not ended their careers. Not put them in the hospital. Just... they attacked them a few times, and they seemed to be fine weeks later. The worst thing they did was knock down a random cameraman. It was ridiculous.

Who in their right mind would be so afraid of R-Truth and The Miz that they'd rather walk out of the company then risk having the same thing happen to them? I mean R-Truth was intimidating when he was a heel, sure, but The Miz?

If they were going to do something like this they needed to have it be based off a much bigger threat then that. If it had been The Nexus, that would've worked. The Shield or the Wyatt Family? That would've worked too.

But R-Truth and The Miz? It's preposterous. It just made everybody look worthless.

And they needed to have it be something serious. Like CM Punk getting put out of action for months. Or Cena. Or hell, even Del Rio would've worked.

Not to mention I also would not have resolved it the next week. They didn't even spend half-an-hour before we were back to the status quo when Raw started. It just seemed like nothing more than something they did just because they thought it was a good idea, but in doing so they had no situation prepared that it would make sense.

So I would've had it be a much bigger threat that was the catalyst, I wouldn't have had all the babyfaces walk out, maybe had them all leaving slowly one by one out of reluctance. And I would've protected more than just a handful of guys like they did with Punk, Cena, and Sheamus by not having them even be in the segment to begin with.

OK. You know what? Here are a few of my suggestions:

1. I would've focused the 10/10/11 Raw at the solidarity rally. I think there could've been a lot of potential if they had half of the show inside the OKC arena, and the other half outside of it.

2. Miz & Truth weren't threatening enough. Maybe they were just too small a group to really work this out.

3. They seemed to downplay other unsafe incidents in WWE at the time, such as Cody Rhodes being knocked out by the ring bell and Ziggler getting clocked by Hugh Jackman.

4. The Otunga lawsuit should've went somewhere. There seemed to be a lot of potential for it. Also, the Otunga/Cody/Christian/Ziggler/Swagger/Vickie stable should've lasted past the first episode. They could've put all the big-name heels in the group and had them be the plaintiff group against HHH. Even Michael Cole should've joined in.