unc40
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Post by unc40 on Dec 19, 2013 20:11:24 GMT -5
After reading the thread on Shawn Michaels and his backstage politics I was wondering how much say do the top stars in the company have?
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 19, 2013 20:13:39 GMT -5
Probably very little. The most power they probably have is just suggesting who they want to work with in a non title feud.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Dec 19, 2013 21:00:08 GMT -5
Aside from HHH, probably next to none. Draws had power in the past because they could always jump ship to WCW.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Dec 19, 2013 21:07:25 GMT -5
Total guess...If John Cena, Randy Orton or Da Undahtaka didn't want to do something, other plans would be made. EVERYBODY else tows the line.
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Post by angryfan on Dec 19, 2013 21:19:18 GMT -5
Total guess...If John Cena, Randy Orton or Da Undahtaka didn't want to do something, other plans would be made. EVERYBODY else tows the line. Don't know about Orton, but the other two are pretty close, or it would seem so. Taker has been there forever, and was loyal to Vince when others weren't, which goes a long way. Cena keeps rushing back from injuries and is the cash cow. If push came to shove and Cena said no, it'd be business suicide for them to argue. Orton has two strikes on him, doesn't rake in cash like the other two, so pretty much he's a star at their whim. They say jump, he'd be crazy to question them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 23:00:43 GMT -5
CENA goes for 3 months Big E's push dies down. Big E's push starts back up the week Cena returns
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Post by shaker on Dec 20, 2013 7:59:38 GMT -5
JTG loaned John Cena a dollar back in 2009 in order to get a can of pop from the vending machine.
JTG is still employed despite having almost no presence in the WWE at this point.
Coincidence? I think not.
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Post by Essential1 on Dec 20, 2013 8:06:00 GMT -5
![](http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/2012/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/john-cena-nikki-bella-photos-08-480w_thumb8.jpg) Cena had enough pull to get midget boy and their respective girlfriends big pushes.
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Post by TGM on Dec 20, 2013 11:54:46 GMT -5
Newz is Cena cost Target, Reks and Dykstra their jobs over the years.
But really, most senior guys have power. Look at Batista and the divas.
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Post by TGM on Dec 20, 2013 11:58:18 GMT -5
Target should read Tarver in my previous post.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 12:07:45 GMT -5
How could they have pull? Everyone is completely interchangeable, and there's no competition to be afraid of losing them to.
My guess is that Cena has a great deal of pull, simply because of his PR value and merch sales. I'd say most others have very, very little to none.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 20, 2013 12:09:17 GMT -5
Well, at least with Punk, he has enough pull to say and do pretty much whatever he wants. He keeps his push after blading during a cage match with Lawler and piledriving John Cena. Now he's using Dean Ambrose as a crash test dummy to do whatever move he wants to try out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 12:18:44 GMT -5
Probably a lot more than you think. WWE is a very feudal enterprise. It doesn't matter who the king is; the vassals are always going to have some power. When a king angers his vassals, they don't jump ship to another liege. They either leave his service and go independent or they start stirring up trouble at court--and by that, I mean going to the indies/retiring or being a hindrance backstage.
WWE is not a bureaucratic corporate entity. It may look like one but its leadership doesn't make decisions based primarily on profits, or consumer confidence, or anything like that. Those aren't completely irrelevant but it's mostly up to what Vince and his brain trust want to do, even if the risks outweigh the rewards. And in a system like that, ties like friendship are a lot more important than rank. They're not invulnerable; there's a reason why Colt Cabana isn't still working as a wrestler for them. But there's also reason there was such a thing as the Klique in the mid-90's and there's a reason that Cena's a champion while Bryan's constantly pushed and the Bellas (who for no particular reason) suddenly had a reality TV show built around them.
And yet, even so, friendship isn't everything--the liege likes his levied money. Cena is a huge source of income for Vince. Do you think he'd do anything to risk him leaving and lose that money? Same goes for Punk, or Taker, etc.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 20, 2013 12:46:27 GMT -5
probably very little. I'd imagine the likes of Cena and Punk get to choose who they work with, and what they can say in promos, but that's about it. hell, even Orton probably has very little if any control over his own destiny given that the current angle he's involved in is basically ssaying "gee this guy sucks! he can't get anything on his own and has to be handed everything and the fans still don't care".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 13:50:34 GMT -5
Out of the full time wrestlers I'd say Cena and Punk have the most power. Cena cause he's the franchise, Punk because he might be the most talented guy in the roster and they never have to worry about wellness for him. I'd imagine DB will get more power over time due to reliability
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Post by Essential1 on Dec 20, 2013 17:20:24 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan should form and backstage vegan/veggie klique to relax with.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 20, 2013 17:44:41 GMT -5
I'm tempted to say they have far, far less than it used to be, but to what extent I don't think we'll ever find out. Cena hasn't really been under fire for doing the sort of things HBK or WCW Hogan were notorious for.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Dec 20, 2013 17:47:41 GMT -5
According to a contract report a few weeks back, Punk has creative control to some extent.
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