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Post by tekkenguy on Dec 21, 2013 21:46:47 GMT -5
Back in the 80s, when the WWF needed jobbers to put their superstars over, they would always use the same jobbers over and over again. Every week on Superstars and Wrestling Challenge, you would see guys like Mario Mancini, Brian Costello, and Chris Duffy being squashed by more established WWF guys. Should WWE go back to using a cast of rotating jobbers? WWE can use some of the more generic guys from NXT, such as Angelo Dawkins, Travis Tyler, and Baron Corbin.
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Post by nickcave on Dec 21, 2013 21:48:30 GMT -5
I think the problem is that everybody wants to be a star these days so you'll find it difficult for people to agree to sign on as jobbers only.
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 21, 2013 21:52:17 GMT -5
A rotating cast of jobbers....like some sort of wheel that rotates with jobbers that job to an upper mid carder?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 21, 2013 21:52:41 GMT -5
Current WWE doesn't work like that.
Actually, the purpose of a "rotating cast of jobbers" should not be because "someone has to lose". The purpose of rotating jobbers should be to relieve each other from jobbing duties so that one person isn't losing over and over again and getting their credibility hammered into the ground. Right now, basically if they need heels to job, it's always 3MB. If they need a face to job, it's always Ryder or Kofi, or they stick the guy in a back and forth mini feud with Ziggler for a few weeks. On NXT, it was always Jake Carter until they fired him. They need to throw more guys like Yoshi, Hawkins, Otunga, JTG, or Riley into the mix so that it isn't so repetitive. And yes, some of those NXT names you mentioned would be great, along with some of the more heavily pushed NXT talents like Adrian Neville or Sami Zayn could work in the "heel makes open challenge" type of capacity.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 21, 2013 21:55:03 GMT -5
Should WWE go back to using a cast of rotating jobbers? Zack Ryder? Kofi Kingston? Justin Gabriel? Heath Slater? Drew McIntyre? Alex Riley? Camacho? Yoshi Tatsu? Curt Hawkins? JTG? Tyson Kidd? Tensai? WWE doesn't even use all the jobbers that they already HAVE. |
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Dec 21, 2013 21:55:43 GMT -5
I miss the local jobbers getting squashed each week. Now we get competitive matches I can't get into cause you know 3MB/Ryder are gonna lose anyways.
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Post by Cry Baby on Dec 21, 2013 22:01:19 GMT -5
I thought they were already doing that. You know what's happening when anyone has a match against Ryder, Justin Gabriel, any member of 3MB etc. Should WWE go back to using a cast of rotating jobbers? Zack Ryder? Kofi Kingston? Justin Gabriel? Heath Slater? Drew McIntyre? Alex Riley? Camacho? Yoshi Tatsu? Curt Hawkins? JTG? Tyson Kidd? Tensai? WWE doesn't even use all the jobbers that they already HAVE. But yeah, they don't use all the canon fodder as said above. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 21, 2013 22:02:27 GMT -5
Should WWE go back to using a cast of rotating jobbers? Zack Ryder? Kofi Kingston? Justin Gabriel? Heath Slater? Drew McIntyre? Alex Riley? Camacho? Yoshi Tatsu? Curt Hawkins? JTG? Tyson Kidd? Tensai? WWE doesn't even use all the jobbers that they already HAVE. I totally agree. Those guys SHOULD be used more often, even in a jobber capacity. Yes, Alex Riley is currently working as a commentator. But it isn't that hard to time Riley's booking so that he could wrestle AND commentate. Say he does commentary for Superstars (since it's the only show he actually does a halfway decent job on), and then after Superstars is over, he goes to the back, changes out of his suit and into his gear, and then comes back out during the second hour of RAW to have a match against Fandango. Instead of having random guys owning 3MB single handedly, why not throw them in a 6 man tag? You can have the option of either A.) Get three underutilized faces on TV, or B.) Get three top faces like Miz, Sheamus, & Ziggler's token appearances out of the way, and make room to give a 2-3 minute match to another undercard star. |
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Post by Chip on Dec 21, 2013 22:18:36 GMT -5
On NXT, it was always Jake Carter until they fired him. You over-exaggerate, he wasn't jobbed out that much more then any other talent they have nothing for yet. |
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Post by Cry Baby on Dec 21, 2013 22:37:59 GMT -5
Zack Ryder? Kofi Kingston? Justin Gabriel? Heath Slater? Drew McIntyre? Alex Riley? Camacho? Yoshi Tatsu? Curt Hawkins? JTG? Tyson Kidd? Tensai? WWE doesn't even use all the jobbers that they already HAVE. I totally agree. Those guys SHOULD be used more often, even in a jobber capacity. Yes, Alex Riley is currently working as a commentator. But it isn't that hard to time Riley's booking so that he could wrestle AND commentate. Say he does commentary for Superstars (since it's the only show he actually does a halfway decent job on), and then after Superstars is over, he goes to the back, changes out of his suit and into his gear, and then comes back out during the second hour of RAW to have a match against Fandango. Instead of having random guys owning 3MB single handedly, why not throw them in a 6 man tag? You can have the option of either A.) Get three underutilized faces on TV, or B.) Get three top faces like Miz, Sheamus, & Ziggler's token appearances out of the way, and make room to give a 2-3 minute match to another undercard star. I completely agree with this. It'd be a great way to utilise a lot of the talent that's just waiting in the wings. I honestly can't remember the last time Riley wrestle on TV, but I would rather see him then the 100th Kofi match or 3MB handicap match. Curt Hawkins is another guy I'd love to see back on TV, even if he was just jobbing. Again, I can't remember the last time I saw him on TV, especially since Tyler Reks left. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 22:39:22 GMT -5
Kofi is hardly a jobber, he might lose a lot but he's hardly a jobber
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 22:42:16 GMT -5
We have them.
The only problem is that they have established names and they're regular superstars.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Dec 21, 2013 22:47:35 GMT -5
We need another schlub to play The Executioner.
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Post by thegame415 on Dec 22, 2013 6:15:38 GMT -5
As long as they get a show on E! called Total Jobbers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2013 6:21:57 GMT -5
Kofi is like Tito Santana. He mostly would lose to other names to make them look good, but he'd get a storyline every once in a while and he could win a match or two then.
That's all fine. But there were people other than Tito back then too. They didn't trot out Tito to job to someone new every week, they used others too.
I don't get why they insist on using Kofi 90% of the time. They've got a bunch of contracted guys that don't normally appear on Raw they could use also. Why not job Yoshi Tatsu on raw sometimes, or riley, or jtg, or any of the 10+ other guys like that.
Especially Yoshi, he became an undercard favorite on ECW quick. He could do that on RAW too. With his funny J-pop entrance music and old school 80s babyface crowd working.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Dec 22, 2013 7:40:10 GMT -5
Can't we just use Ryder for this? You could stick him in different masks and tights and shove him out there 2-3 times a night to job to somebody better than he is. Or use him as fodder for the random Khali / Hornswoggle / Santino comedy angle. The guy's got to be useful for something...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2013 9:06:26 GMT -5
Should WWE go back to using a cast of rotating jobbers? Zack Ryder? Kofi Kingston? Justin Gabriel? Heath Slater? Drew McIntyre? Alex Riley? Camacho? Yoshi Tatsu? Curt Hawkins? JTG? Tyson Kidd? Tensai? WWE doesn't even use all the jobbers that they already HAVE. It hurt liking this post, but it had to be done. Because it's right. |
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Dec 22, 2013 11:58:49 GMT -5
Can't we just use Ryder for this? You could stick him in different masks and tights and shove him out there 2-3 times a night to job to somebody better than he is. Or use him as fodder for the random Khali / Hornswoggle / Santino comedy angle. The guy's got to be useful for something... I'm pretty surprised he's not with them actually. Colorful goofball Zack Ryder hanging around the other comedy weirdos just writes itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2013 12:02:59 GMT -5
Kofi is hardly a jobber, he might lose a lot but he's hardly a jobber That's a thing where I think they could use some jobbers. They need someone to make the Kofis of the world make good once in a while. Kofi's cred is shot because he's only used to get beat by heels a little above his level. A guy like Hawkins could do that, I suppose. |
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