Sparkybob
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 23, 2013 23:25:18 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero wasn't winning the World Heavyweight Championship on the day he died, Randy Orton was. I've heard that too, and I guess one reason I believed that is because of this. Remember the WWE Fantasy game they had? I actually picked Eddie Guerrero that week, because I thought they were going to do the heel turn with Eddie that had been somewhat teased. It was going to be a 3 way match between Batista, who was apparently injured, Randy Orton and Eddie Guerrero. Eddie had since turned baby face and had been trying to convince Batista that he was really a baby face and not the bad guy he was before. He even started going back to his old entrance music, all that fun stuff. But, due to some subtleties in weeks prior, I was thinking Eddie was going to turn heel eventually and show his true colours. So, with the three way match announced, I thought, well they'll probably have Eddie win the belt, turn on Batista early and then when Batista comes back, he has an instant program with Eddie Guerrero. I think the big reason Orton isn't thought of as winning it is because A) It didn't make sense compared to Eddie going over and B) Orton didn't get the title from Batista anyway, Batista ended up having to vacate it. If Orton went over, would he feud with Eddie? Maybe, but if that's the case, then what about the prior weeks of building a potential Eddie heel turn? What did Batista have to come back to. Yeah, fighting Orton, but it would have been much better coming back to fight Eddie who stole his title from him, and you could even do a deal where he put him out of action. He lied, cheated and stole, he showed his true colours. That's probably where the myth comes from, the fact that it makes a lot more sense. If I remember right, the plan WM world title match was suppose to be Orton vs Batista with the whole evolution explodes angle and such. So in hindsight in makes sense to have Orton win the belt and take out Bats. Remember his original injury wasn't going to keep him out long term, he probably be back right in the thick of the road to wrestlemania, but since he decided to work hurt after Eddie passed his injury became more serious and he had to miss mania that year. Orton winning the belt would have changed the Undertaker/Orton program with either Orton just winning the blow off match at no mercy or Orton winning one more final match at Armageddon. Now I don't know what were the plans for Eddie after he lost. There was no programs for him to be in so maybe Vince would have given him a month off that his body desperately needed, that or Vince would have just stuck in a mid card feud in hopes to give Eddie a break from all the main event angle workload. It was supposed to be Eddie/HBK at WM 22 so I figure that would have started out at the Rumble.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Dec 24, 2013 0:19:58 GMT -5
That Lex Luger screwed himself out of a title win at Wrestlemania X by leaking the results to a reporter while drunk. Both Luger and Bret have debunked this in their tellings of the story.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Dec 24, 2013 0:23:41 GMT -5
Despite Myth:
Neither Pat Patterson or Buddy Rogers won tournaments for the Intercontinental & WWWF Championship (respectively) on hot steamy nights in Rio Di Janero.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Dec 24, 2013 9:03:04 GMT -5
that Maven wasn't eliminated from the Royal Rumble in 2002.
Even though there is video proof of him clearly getting thrown over the top rope by Taker
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Post by Haulk on Dec 24, 2013 11:28:11 GMT -5
That Randy Orton pooped in Melina's purse. The myth keeps evolving into different divas and bags.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Dec 24, 2013 11:43:39 GMT -5
That Randy Orton pooped in Melina's purse. The myth keeps evolving into different divas and bags. I'd actually like to trace the urban legend of this. I'm thinking it's an evolution of X-pac taking a dump in Sable's bag and food. Which Xpac freely admits too!
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Post by ERON on Dec 24, 2013 11:46:29 GMT -5
How about the myth that in order to make it in WWF back in the day, you had to do "favors" for Pat Patterson? Even long before I started frequenting wrestling forums, I remember hearing this story from one of my dad's co-workers who claimed to have tried out for WWF in the '80s. I don't know how many times I've heard this reason given as to why Shawn Michaels became a star and Marty Jannetty didn't.
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Post by bootytea on Dec 24, 2013 13:50:08 GMT -5
You can not confirm an event is a myth unless you were there when the alledged myth occured. A jury of my peers could find me guilty of murder, but only the people who were there and aware of what was going on could tell you for sure... How an you witness something that didn't happen?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 24, 2013 13:55:29 GMT -5
That Randy Orton pooped in Melina's purse. The myth keeps evolving into different divas and bags. Didn't someone say it was actually lotion? Amy Weber maybe? It was tanning lotion and Baby oil and the bag belonged to Rochelle Loewen.
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Post by Crimson on Dec 24, 2013 14:49:48 GMT -5
David Arquette becoming WCW Champion was one of the turning points in the Monday Night War. This is frequently brought up over and over again, but by the time Arquette was WCW Champion, Raw was already doubling the ratings of Nitro. Once more, the ratings of Nitro actually spiked a little.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 24, 2013 14:51:51 GMT -5
David Arquette becoming WCW Champion was one of the turning points in the Monday Night War. This is frequently brought up over and over again, but by the time Arquette was WCW Champion, Raw was already doubling the ratings of Nitro. Once more, the ratings of Nitro actually spiked a little. What is not a myth is that it was still a pretty dumb decision
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Post by Crimson on Dec 24, 2013 14:55:00 GMT -5
David Arquette becoming WCW Champion was one of the turning points in the Monday Night War. This is frequently brought up over and over again, but by the time Arquette was WCW Champion, Raw was already doubling the ratings of Nitro. Once more, the ratings of Nitro actually spiked a little. What is not a myth is that it was still a pretty dumb decision Oh yeah, I'm not arguing that. But there's a definite line between "dumb writing" and "one of the main reasons why the company went down the crapper" like how it's spinned now.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 24, 2013 15:04:48 GMT -5
That Triple H was the mastermind behind the Montreal screwjob. I can't even began to tell you what is wrong with that. I feel like that's just Triple H trying to take a bullet for Michaels.
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Post by rocket on Dec 24, 2013 15:08:05 GMT -5
David Arquette becoming WCW Champion was one of the turning points in the Monday Night War. This is frequently brought up over and over again, but by the time Arquette was WCW Champion, Raw was already doubling the ratings of Nitro. Once more, the ratings of Nitro actually spiked a little. The Raw after Arquette won the WCW title was also the Raw after Rock finally beat HHH the WWF title. And it was the second highest-rated Raw ever after Raw is Owen. I feel like saying the Fingerpoke of Doom wasn't the complete turning point as well, as Nitro's ratings actually went up the next week.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Dec 24, 2013 15:52:07 GMT -5
That the E is a dictatorship dic·ta·tor·ship [dik-tey-ter-ship, dik-tey-] noun 1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator. 2. absolute, imperious, or overbearing power or control. Sounds nothing like WWE! Ahem. That Triple H was the mastermind behind the Montreal screwjob. I can't even began to tell you what is wrong with that. It was his idea and has been corroborated by Michaels himself. HHH planted the idea of the double cross in a meeting with HBK & Vince. HHH apparently felt Bret not doing the honors on the way out was a slap in the face to everyone who ever put Bret over.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2013 16:38:11 GMT -5
that Maven wasn't eliminated from the Royal Rumble in 2002. Even though there is video proof of him clearly getting thrown over the top rope by Taker Yeah but to be fair for a while WWE didn't count eliminations by people who'd already been eliminated e.g. Vader eliminating a bunch of guys in 96. WWE pretty much makes up or changes Rumble rules as they go along.
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Post by Ganon83 on Dec 24, 2013 18:02:50 GMT -5
PPV buy rates dropped off dramatically post Arquette, however.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 24, 2013 22:42:11 GMT -5
That the E is a dictatorship dic·ta·tor·ship [dik-tey-ter-ship, dik-tey-] noun 1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator. 2. absolute, imperious, or overbearing power or control. Sounds nothing like WWE! Ahem. That Triple H was the mastermind behind the Montreal screwjob. I can't even began to tell you what is wrong with that. It was his idea and has been corroborated by Michaels himself. HHH planted the idea of the double cross in a meeting with HBK & Vince. HHH apparently felt Bret not doing the honors on the way out was a slap in the face to everyone who ever put Bret over. well he was right.
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Post by Boo! on Dec 24, 2013 22:44:00 GMT -5
David Arquette becoming WCW Champion was one of the turning points in the Monday Night War. This is frequently brought up over and over again, but by the time Arquette was WCW Champion, Raw was already doubling the ratings of Nitro. Once more, the ratings of Nitro actually spiked a little. It wasn't a turning point of itself but it was symptomatic of a larger turning point. WCW was a car crash by then and being booked by a guy who thought that the problem was that it wasn't car crashy enough so the world title had to change hands every few days.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Dec 25, 2013 0:09:53 GMT -5
Hey, did you guys know that if you take a statement that is obviously meant to be hypobole and act as if it was intended to be literally true, then it instantly becomes a myth you can disprove?
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