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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 5, 2014 11:58:07 GMT -5
There's something humorous about the idea that many of the things suggested as the reason TNa is dying are in fact the same things here on the boards were demanding of TNA.
Funny that.
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Post by SOR on Jan 5, 2014 12:37:01 GMT -5
My thoughts are it isn't dying and I think the WWE Smackdown going to Spike rumors are false.
Now, if TNA did lose their TV deal. They're done. But as long as they have a TV Show in a prime time slot week to week and continue to get approximately one million viewers they will be okay.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 5, 2014 12:39:01 GMT -5
Until Spike decides that they aren't worth the programming time, they're likely to exist in some form. Management may change, but the tv deal is the kicker.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 5, 2014 12:41:26 GMT -5
There's something humorous about the idea that many of the things suggested as the reason TNa is dying are in fact the same things here on the boards were demanding of TNA. ...Like what? |
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jan 5, 2014 12:50:38 GMT -5
Why would WWE not just hire the talent directly and not bother with buying TNA? Tapes, mostly. They'd have 10 years worth of footage for the likes of Angle, Sting, Hardy et al. The fact the 'E are making good profit off the memory of WCW, ECW, Mid-South, WCCW et al would most likely be enough incentive to trail it for the right price. Mind, it'll be quite bizarre to behold TNA being sold at an ever-so-slightly higher price than WCW. |
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Post by saintpat on Jan 5, 2014 13:01:28 GMT -5
So this is how it ends. Not with a bang, but with a Gunner push. Final Impact: Gunner becomes champion only to turn off his hologram projector to reveal... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Jeff Jarrett I'd rather Abyss take off his mask only to find out he wasn't Joseph Park, but ... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Vince McMahon.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Jan 5, 2014 13:04:32 GMT -5
Final Impact: Gunner becomes champion only to turn off his hologram projector to reveal... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Jeff Jarrett I'd rather Curry Man take off his mask only to find out he wasn't Chris Daniels, but ... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Vince McMahon.
"It was me, Dixie. I was hot and spicy all along!!!" Fixed for personal preference. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 13:22:59 GMT -5
We can only hope
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 5, 2014 13:26:51 GMT -5
There's something humorous about the idea that many of the things suggested as the reason TNa is dying are in fact the same things here on the boards were demanding of TNA. ...Like what? Going by the original post: Leaving the IMPACT Zone - Something this board, on more than one occasion, have championed and brought up about what TNA needed to do. I think it was more talked about than ending the brand split was in the other section. Cutting costs - Aside from talent mentioned below, budget was something people wanted them to control, especially every time something celebrity related happened like Jenna Morasca or Pacman Jones or whoever, and now they're doing it, it's suddenly a death sentence? Cutting talent - For the longest time, the roster was seen as too big, and nearly everyone always demanded TNA should let go of a few people that were not going to move anything toward ratings sand profits. (then subsequently complained about releases when they did, like a weird armchair booking 'Hoarders') Cutting the PPVs - Secondly only to leaving the zone in terms of mentions and demand to do it, not only was this called for by the board (for good reason), but mentioned time and time again since 2005 by Dixie. Again, a lot of these things were stuff people supposedly wanted, a TNA that cut a lot of unnecessarily baggage, leaned up in method and business, focus on getting unnamed talent over as TNA guys instead of vetertans and "castoffs", and the fact that the fanbase is hardcore enough to not impact ratings for the most part (not sure about the low ratings claim, since the show was picking up viewers before the new year.)during any change made it possible to do. But it's apparently bad now cause I don't know. |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 5, 2014 13:28:31 GMT -5
They appear to be in a slow, sad death spiral. I hope I'm wrong, because I enjoy the TNA thread on Thursday nights. Same. If anything we'll need to figure out an alternative thing on Thursday nights... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 13:34:03 GMT -5
Smackdown moving to Spike isn't happening. What does USA and Syfy have in common? They are both subsidiaries of NBC/GE. Why would the WWE move one of their shows to a non-in-house cable station who is a direct competitor to their parent company? There is nothing stopping them when they negotiate new contracts. NBC Universal might have first refusal rights at the time being, but when it comes to renegotiation all that will be out the window. And though it is probably unlikely to move there is nothing keeping Raw on USA either Especially considering USA would still be the number one rated cable network without Raw - and Wrestling program is traditionally to push rating averages up as it doesn't really bring in much advertising revenue Also studios often produce programming for rival networks. For example Buffy The Vampire Slayer was financed by Fox yet it aired on The WB |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 5, 2014 13:36:00 GMT -5
Sadly, it might be. Thanks a lot Hogan. I shook Dixie Carter's hand in early 2010 when they had their first show in London and told her Hogan would ruin her company. A year later I again shook her hand and told her I was right. Care to elaborate Woo? I feel like there's a story here and like to know Dixie's reaction. |
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Post by Ganon83 on Jan 5, 2014 13:40:42 GMT -5
Video Library would also come in handy for future Jeff Hardy, RVD, Sting, Kurt Angle, 3-D, and Christian DVDs, along with the standard "Best ofs" and the usual "Rise and Fall" DVD. I don't like the idea of WWE buying TNA just for the sake of having extra footage for their alumni and then F***ing over all the other wrestlers. Not a fan of it either, just that I think they'd nab it if the opportunity comes. I also doubt they'd let the TNA name die completely. They are going to need stuff for the network- Legends House and the giant library is nice but they need some first run wrestling for it. WWE should never be the only game in town but Vince doesn't care about that. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 5, 2014 13:45:50 GMT -5
Smackdown moving to Spike isn't happening. What does USA and Syfy have in common? They are both subsidiaries of NBC/GE. Why would the WWE move one of their shows to a non-in-house cable station who is a direct competitor to their parent company? There is nothing stopping them when they negotiate new contracts. NBC Universal might have first refusal rights at the time being, but when it comes to renegotiation all that will be out the window. And though it is probably unlikely to move there is nothing keeping Raw on USA either Especially considering USA would still be the number one rated cable network without Raw - and Wrestling program is traditionally to push rating averages up as it doesn't really bring in much advertising revenue Also studios often produce programming for rival networks. For example Buffy The Vampire Slayer was financed by Fox yet it aired on The WB Forgetting that a lot of the examples in this thread were from a while back (with WWE and TV methods being different than now), and that Spike and WWE did not have a pleasant departure the first time around. Plus, what happened to the whole "WWE Channel" thing? |
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 5, 2014 13:51:49 GMT -5
I hope not. WWE being the only wrestling option available on television would most certainly suck. I also don't want them to buy TNA, they have enough of a monopoly right now without doing that.
The fact is, TNA needs to survive. There's no way anyone can tell me them going away would help the wrestling business. No, their current product isn't good, but WWE's isn't either. We should all hope that TNA hits a massive hot streak and provides some competition for the WWE. We as fans would certainly be better of if that happened.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jan 5, 2014 13:52:38 GMT -5
If you think about everything is dying the moment it is created.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 5, 2014 13:56:30 GMT -5
Going by the original post: Leaving the IMPACT Zone - Something this board, on more than one occasion, have championed and brought up about what TNA needed to do. I think it was more talked about than ending the brand split was in the other section. Cutting costs - Aside from talent mentioned below, budget was something people wanted them to control, especially every time something celebrity related happened like Jenna Morasca or Pacman Jones or whoever, and now they're doing it, it's suddenly a death sentence? Cutting talent - For the longest time, the roster was seen as too big, and nearly everyone always demanded TNA should let go of a few people that were not going to move anything toward ratings sand profits. (then subsequently complained about releases when they did, like a weird armchair booking 'Hoarders') Cutting the PPVs - Secondly only to leaving the zone in terms of mentions and demand to do it, not only was this called for by the board (for good reason), but mentioned time and time again since 2005 by Dixie. Again, a lot of these things were stuff people supposedly wanted, a TNA that cut a lot of unnecessarily baggage, leaned up in method and business, focus on getting unnamed talent over as TNA guys instead of vetertans and "castoffs", and the fact that the fanbase is hardcore enough to not impact ratings for the most part (not sure about the low ratings claim, since the show was picking up viewers before the new year.)during any change made it possible to do. But it's apparently bad now cause I don't know. Not everybody on the board agreed about the things you talked about so it wasn't unanimous praise for these moves beforehand. And I don't see how it's the board's fault that TNA did not have contingency plans in place if something failed. If TNA followed every suggestion this board made Christopher Daniels would be TNA champion, Aces and Eight would had ended months earlier, and a hour of Impact would be dedicated to Miss Tessmacher's ass. TNA made those moves because management told them so not because a couple of people on the Net forced them to. |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 5, 2014 13:59:48 GMT -5
Going by the original post: Leaving the IMPACT Zone - Something this board, on more than one occasion, have championed and brought up about what TNA needed to do. I think it was more talked about than ending the brand split was in the other section. Cutting costs - Aside from talent mentioned below, budget was something people wanted them to control, especially every time something celebrity related happened like Jenna Morasca or Pacman Jones or whoever, and now they're doing it, it's suddenly a death sentence? Cutting talent - For the longest time, the roster was seen as too big, and nearly everyone always demanded TNA should let go of a few people that were not going to move anything toward ratings sand profits. (then subsequently complained about releases when they did, like a weird armchair booking 'Hoarders') Cutting the PPVs - Secondly only to leaving the zone in terms of mentions and demand to do it, not only was this called for by the board (for good reason), but mentioned time and time again since 2005 by Dixie. Again, a lot of these things were stuff people supposedly wanted, a TNA that cut a lot of unnecessarily baggage, leaned up in method and business, focus on getting unnamed talent over as TNA guys instead of vetertans and "castoffs", and the fact that the fanbase is hardcore enough to not impact ratings for the most part (not sure about the low ratings claim, since the show was picking up viewers before the new year.)during any change made it possible to do. But it's apparently bad now cause I don't know. Not everybody on the board agreed about the things you talked about so it wasn't unanimous praise for these moves beforehand. And I don't see how it's the board's fault that TNA did not have contingency plans in place if something failed. If TNA followed every suggestion this board made Christopher Daniels would be TNA champion, Aces and Eight would had ended months earlier, and a hour of Impact would be dedicated to Miss Tessmacher's ass. TNA made those moves because management told them so not because a couple of people on the Net forced them to. An hour long episode of Tessmacher's ass would be brilliant television. Like the Wacky Deli episode of Rocko's modern life. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 14:04:27 GMT -5
They kind of remind me of late period ECW and WCW right now. Lots of uncertainty, rumors of being for sale, young guys getting pushed to the top of the card out of nowhere, lots of top/more expensive guys leaving, Rockstar Spud = the Musketeer, etc.
Hopefully they can get it turned around and stay on, because nothing good will come from them going out of business.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 5, 2014 14:14:28 GMT -5
Needs to be sold. Dixie is clueless. It's a shame that a fairly stable company with a TV deal is being held back by having people in charge who know nothing about the business they oversee. TNA in the right hands could be much more successful.
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