ASYLUMHAUSEN
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Jan 5, 2014 11:43:40 GMT -5
video has surfaced from last night.... {Spoiler} (thought I'd hide it behind a spoiler tag, just to be safe.)
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 5, 2014 11:47:21 GMT -5
Urn Anderson already addressed what I was saying bout the Southern thing, my thanks.
The Austin in a suit deal isn't comparable seeing as it was like 5 minutes.
Also, can we stop implying that people that think this is an unneeded detour is a burial? A debate whether people are knee jerking on the hate is valid, but the rest of the strawan some are using is silly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 11:58:16 GMT -5
It should be regular Daniel Bryan attire but with a hawaiian shirt added.
Also, hvae a segment where Wyatt gives Bryan a hawaiian shirt and there's all this tension, like Cena with the Nexus shirt. =P
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 5, 2014 12:04:04 GMT -5
Why are people SO f***ing angry over this? Daniel joining the Wyatts is 100 times more interesting than him dragging out the tired DB vs. Orton/Authority stuff. I think people are just scared and paranoid that this storyline could do permanent damage to Bryan. It's the first time In a long time that a main event level face ever "gave up" and willingly joined the heels. That part is what makes the entire feud extremely interesting to me and why I'm giving it a shot. I think people are paranoid that if it's badly handled it could lead to Bryan being labelled as a quitter by the general audience with everyone kinda giving up on him for giving up. There's definitely that possibility and I don't blame anyone for being scared of that but I think there's so many more chances for it be something really cool then there are for it to go badly. I think, at the end of the day this angle COULD be interesting. and the sooner D-bry gets away from the creative dead-end that is the Authority angle the better (because EVERYONE involved in that angle's come out looking like a chump, heel or face). but at the same time I'm apprehensive because they really did screw the pooch with Daniel Bryan by not at least letting him hold the belt for a while, and in the last few years every time they try to do something big they inevitably screw it up, so I'm going into this with VERY low expectations.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 5, 2014 12:10:47 GMT -5
Then there should've been a few more heels in the Authority's ranks for Bryan to work with so that he wouldn't be constantly working with the Shield. Barrett seemed to be in the Authority's pocket before the work visa issues came up. Ryback and Axel need something of substance to do post-Heyman. Brad Maddox is a wrestler. Use him. Even if it's just a glorified jobber squash, use him. Big Show should've turned heel on Bryan instead of trying to have him usurp Bryan's rightful spot. And what happened with Random-Alex-Riley-in-a-Suit? While I personally think that his in-ring quality will regress if he goes heel, Riley would be a solid addition to the Authority if they presented him as a fan favorite tweener who's allied with the heels, akin to RVD during the Invasion. And let's not forget turning Mark Henry face just for the sake of putting That's What I Do on a t-shirt and giving Brock Lesnar someone big to lift. The Wyatt program should've gone no further than Survivor Series at most. Bryan should've vanquished the monsters and moved on. well as you said Barrett had work visa issues, which likely means they meant for it to happen. Bryan had worked with Ryback several times over the summer Big Show was not being used to take Bryan's spot. The WWE has had Rock and Austin and Mankind face at the same time in the past and more very over faces I think Ryback was supposed to be part of the Authority but Trips changed his mind after the CARELESSNESS incident and Ryback became Punk's personal job-boy instead. as for Big Show taking Bryan's spot, that's not really what happened. Bryan's still treated as one of the most important people on the roster, they just gave Show a title shot to change things up. if Survivor Series was Orton v.s. Bryan for the umpteen millionth time it would've probably pissed people off. that said, Show proved to be a poor choice because it had a terrible buyrate and now he's stuck dancing around in a diaper (I think if you look up "wrestling burial" in a dictionary, it's just a picture of Show dancing around in a diaper).
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Post by khali on Jan 5, 2014 12:11:20 GMT -5
Clearly this is just newz.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 5, 2014 12:24:54 GMT -5
I think people are just scared and paranoid that this storyline could do permanent damage to Bryan. It's the first time In a long time that a main event level face ever "gave up" and willingly joined the heels. That part is what makes the entire feud extremely interesting to me and why I'm giving it a shot. I think people are paranoid that if it's badly handled it could lead to Bryan being labelled as a quitter by the general audience with everyone kinda giving up on him for giving up. There's definitely that possibility and I don't blame anyone for being scared of that but I think there's so many more chances for it be something really cool then there are for it to go badly. I think, at the end of the day this angle COULD be interesting. and the sooner D-bry gets away from the creative dead-end that is the Authority angle the better (because EVERYONE involved in that angle's come out looking like a chump, heel or face). but at the same time I'm apprehensive because they really did screw the pooch with Daniel Bryan by not at least letting him hold the belt for a while, and in the last few years every time they try to do something big they inevitably screw it up, so I'm going into this with VERY low expectations. there is no angle except the authority angle. This is the modern day version of the face vs the evil company looks like
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 5, 2014 12:29:13 GMT -5
Apparantly all main event pushes have to follow the same formula Steve Austins did.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 5, 2014 12:46:48 GMT -5
Going by the vid, they clearly called him Daniel Bryan, so that Daniel Wyatt thing was wrong. Also, clearly people are still into it, WANTING him to fake out the Wyatts; the risk they run is if they milk the story too long, they make cool off some of the reactions.
I've said before, and it's pretty obvious, this is more about making the Wyatts hated by leeching some of Bryan's overness than it is about DBry himself, they've just gotta maintain a careful balancing act so they don't lose some of the crowd that does cheer Bryan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 13:12:34 GMT -5
yeah, it's not like Austin ever falsely joined an evil group at the peak of his popularity.... I vividly remember that, Austin joined McMahon and spent the better part of a year and a half in suits and cutting serious promos..... *hmm? I'm being told in my ear piece it lasted less then 15 minutes and Austin tore off the suit and beat down McMahon. And Daniel Bryan being apart of the Wyatt Family has lasted how long? Hmm, I'm being told in my ear piece that it was about 40 seconds at the end of Raw.
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Post by r. on Jan 5, 2014 13:19:58 GMT -5
I vividly remember that, Austin joined McMahon and spent the better part of a year and a half in suits and cutting serious promos..... *hmm? I'm being told in my ear piece it lasted less then 15 minutes and Austin tore off the suit and beat down McMahon. And Daniel Bryan being apart of the Wyatt Family has lasted how long? Hmm, I'm being told in my ear piece that it was about 40 seconds at the end of Raw. You missed the OP topic showing him in a full match didn't you? {Spoiler} For some video.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 13:22:34 GMT -5
And Daniel Bryan being apart of the Wyatt Family has lasted how long? Hmm, I'm being told in my ear piece that it was about 40 seconds at the end of Raw. You missed the OP topic showing him in a full match didn't you? {Spoiler} For some video. No, I saw it. One house show appearance, where he took on Bray Wyatt. If they were that serious about a turn he wouldn't be fighting the guy he just joined. House Shows mean jack diddly squat.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jan 5, 2014 13:22:52 GMT -5
I can't wait for RAW now to see how this plays out on TV.
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Post by Chip on Jan 5, 2014 13:31:12 GMT -5
Here's the thing... Has any other main event face (yes, Bryan is a main event face, and has been for months) ever fought as hard as Bryan has, just to keep his head above water? First he's got everyone in a position of power telling him he's not worthy enough to be their champion, and then meddling in his matches to keep him from proving them wrong. Then he's had this backwoods psycho Wyatt and his monsters coming after him for weeks and weeks, offering him sanctuary between attacks. And between all that, he's been wrestling balls to the wall pretty much every single night against guys up and down the roster, often more than once per night and often against more than one guy, and for what reward? To go through all that again the next night? The guy has NOTHING, both physically and mentally, left to fight with. It's interesting how Bryan reaching a new high in his career, beating the top face in the company clean for THE title in wrestling, sparked events that would lead to pretty much the worst six months of Bryan's career, storyline wise. How any part of that segment makes people think he turned heel mystifies me, even more so the fact that a lot of people think the same as you did. Perhaps they can go the brainwash route, but it doesn't make sense how it happened. If he truly was brainwashed, why did he go through the motions of the match? All that segment taught us is that Daniel Bryan gave up which is a heelish thing to do. The quote at the top of my post pretty much sums up how it makes complete sense. For 6 months Bryan was beaten down week after week by a machine that could twist and manipulate the system Bryan had to work inside to get any semblance of vengeance, then by a relentless cult of monsters. Bryan's long time tag partner and friend was kidnapped by the Wyatts and upon his return joined the very machine that was breaking Bryan. Then in a match that should have been the most advantageous to Bryan lead to his tutor costing him his shot by kicking him in the face and siding with the machine, again. There is no brainwashing to speak of and there doesn't need to be, Bryan is arguably more broken mentally then he was before the Anger Management storyline and as such would be easily lead and manipulated. You are going to have to explain why giving up is a heelish action to you, as I don't see it. I think, at the end of the day this angle COULD be interesting. and the sooner D-bry gets away from the creative dead-end that is the Authority angle the better (because EVERYONE involved in that angle's come out looking like a chump, heel or face). but at the same time I'm apprehensive because they really did screw the pooch with Daniel Bryan by not at least letting him hold the belt for a while, and in the last few years every time they try to do something big they inevitably screw it up, so I'm going into this with VERY low expectations. I think people even optimistic with the storyline like myself have low expectations for the whole deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 13:42:21 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan's new look...I hear there is a job offering at the Gizmonic Institute available if he's interested.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 13:50:10 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for the newz that this is happening because he didn't cut his beard and Vince didn't want a full bearded faces and heels confusing the marks.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 5, 2014 13:51:52 GMT -5
And Daniel Bryan being apart of the Wyatt Family has lasted how long? Hmm, I'm being told in my ear piece that it was about 40 seconds at the end of Raw. You missed the OP topic showing him in a full match didn't you? {Spoiler} For some video. House shows don't count canon-wise (unless there's a rare title change).
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 5, 2014 13:52:43 GMT -5
when I read the title, I thought it involved a dog collar, martini glass, involved getting teamed with a evil closeted gay baby.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 5, 2014 13:55:21 GMT -5
The Wyatt angle lasted "forty seconds at the end of Raw"?
C'mon now, everyone in here knows it's still ongoing. Even if say Monday ended it (it's not gonna of course), the Austin suit thing is still a weak comparison.
One is an angle, the other was a segment to pop the crowd.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 5, 2014 13:57:44 GMT -5
Personally, I don't understand why people have been complaining for years about the lack of interesting storylines, and now that we have something unique in the form of this DBD/Wyatt feud, people are still complaining and saying we should go back to Daniel Bryan vs. Authority....despite the fact we got three months of that already. The interesting storyline should have been Daniel Bryan overcoming the heel establishment and the hand-picked corporate champion, and winning the title, then enjoying a lengthy reign, proving the heels to be wrong by showing that he could indeed be an A+ main event star. In the absence of that outcome, that storyline is unresolved, and it was booked terribly, in a way that legitimised the arguments of the heels, which is completely illogical and detrimental. Bryan and the Wyatts doesn't strike me as interesting, but rather a random tangent, which is sidetracking him from the plotline he should be part of.
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