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Post by rocket on Jan 9, 2014 22:07:33 GMT -5
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Post by Error on Jan 9, 2014 22:36:25 GMT -5
That is not a shock, WWE and DirecTV haven't really played nice for years. It will be interesting to see how many, if any, other providers look to follow suit.
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Post by frogsplash45 on Jan 9, 2014 23:20:46 GMT -5
WWE should just tell them to screw off. Companies like DirecTV were partly what was keeping those prices so high. WWE had to share pieces of the pie every month. DirecTV was another mouth to feed. With the cable companies out of the way, it's a win-win for WWE and us, the loyal customers. What the WWE Network is offering here is a service so simple, smart, and convenient that it makes piracy seem completely obsolete. There should be no looking back. Grow the amount of consumers, while keeping prices within a reasonable range. It's a solid business model in the long-run.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 9, 2014 23:22:19 GMT -5
They promoted the Monday Night War, so we are going with the assumption that they will have RAW and Nitro. Its a combo of Netflix/WWE Classics on Demand. I actually hope all the old RAW and Nitro shows are available instantly as opposed to waiting a week for the next show. That was annoying. I don't think it be smart for them to out everything up immediately. If they blow their load so quickly, people might watch everything right away and not re-subscribe after the 6 months. They're not putting everything up on it right away. I think there's a bit of confusion going on as far as the actual structure of the service. From what I've heard, it will be updated much like Netflix. Lots of content, but not everything at once. There will live programming like PPVS, old PPVs, replays, and a series of other options and original programming, but they're not putting up or updating a complete digital library. They will add new content monthly, and like Netflix take certain things away cyclically. According to Perkins Miller at the scrum, they haven't even digitized anywhere close to WWE's full archive yet. Only something like 1.5% of it. Which is still hundreds of hours. But anyone expecting to login in February and search "WWF Coliseum Video: Hulkamania 2" or "Clash of the Champions V" might be disappointed. It's still a good deal for the PPVs alone. HOWEVER, Half of WWE's current PPV revenue stream is International, who are getting hosed here. They will still have to pay market value on everything for one whole year, and this could offset the gains made (WWE will need a million subscribers just to break even) by the PPVs being bundled on the network if these people stop buying --or worse yet, start pirating all the shows out of spite because the U.S. gets a better deal.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 9, 2014 23:36:35 GMT -5
I don't think it be smart for them to out everything up immediately. If they blow their load so quickly, people might watch everything right away and not re-subscribe after the 6 months. They're not putting everything up on it right away. I think there's a bit of confusion going on as far as the actual structure of the service. From what I've heard, it will be updated much like Netflix. Lots of content, but not everything at once. There will live programming like PPVS, old PPVs, replays, and a series of other options and original programming, but they're not putting up or updating a complete digital library. They will add new content monthly, and like Netflix take certain things away cyclically. According to Perkins Miller at the scrum, they haven't even digitized anywhere close to WWE's full archive yet. Only something like 1.5% of it. Which is still hundreds of hours. But anyone expecting to login in February and search "WWF Coliseum Video: Hulkamania 2" or "Clash of the Champions V" might be disappointed. It's still a good deal for the PPVs alone. HOWEVER, Half of WWE's current PPV revenue stream is International, who are getting hosed here. They will still have to pay market value on everything for one whole year, and this could offset the gains made (WWE will need a million subscribers just to break even) by the PPVs being bundled on the network if these people stop buying --or worse yet, start pirating all the shows out of spite because the U.S. gets a better deal. They're not getting "hosed." They're in exactly the same spot they are in currently. And you're correct about the content being released weekly or monthly. But I do believe they said every WWF, WCW and ECW PPV will be available at launch unless I'm mistaken.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 9, 2014 23:59:46 GMT -5
They're not putting everything up on it right away. I think there's a bit of confusion going on as far as the actual structure of the service. From what I've heard, it will be updated much like Netflix. Lots of content, but not everything at once. There will live programming like PPVS, old PPVs, replays, and a series of other options and original programming, but they're not putting up or updating a complete digital library. They will add new content monthly, and like Netflix take certain things away cyclically. According to Perkins Miller at the scrum, they haven't even digitized anywhere close to WWE's full archive yet. Only something like 1.5% of it. Which is still hundreds of hours. But anyone expecting to login in February and search "WWF Coliseum Video: Hulkamania 2" or "Clash of the Champions V" might be disappointed. It's still a good deal for the PPVs alone. HOWEVER, Half of WWE's current PPV revenue stream is International, who are getting hosed here. They will still have to pay market value on everything for one whole year, and this could offset the gains made (WWE will need a million subscribers just to break even) by the PPVs being bundled on the network if these people stop buying --or worse yet, start pirating all the shows out of spite because the U.S. gets a better deal. They're not getting "hosed." They're in exactly the same spot they are in currently. And you're correct about the content being released weekly or monthly. But I do believe they said every WWF, WCW and ECW PPV will be available at launch unless I'm mistaken. I did not mean hosed in these sense that WWE is purposely gypping them; but in the sense that they will be expected to pay market value prices on shows that Americans will be getting for a song (regardless of that being the norm. The landscape is no longer equal. That was my point). I don't think anyone is "entitled" to anything per se, but you have to admit, if you were say Canadian, there might be an impetus on pirating shows now more than ever due to America's deal. I mean, it's shady as f*** and horrible, but it is entirely possible.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 10, 2014 0:09:36 GMT -5
Has anyone discussed the logo yet? I know we've seen it before, but I'm glad its officially being used. I kinda like it actually, I just wish they'd just make it the official logo for WWE instead of using both a new one and an old one. Also, I don't know if this has been asked yet, but does this kill interest in buying Royal Rumble/Elimination Chamber for anyone else? I was planning on buying Royal Rumble, but I honestly feel like just reading results and waiting to watch it on the Network now rather than paying full price for 2 more PPVs.
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Post by Error on Jan 10, 2014 0:12:05 GMT -5
Has anyone discussed the logo yet? I know we've seen it before, but I'm glad its officially being used. I kinda like it actually, I just wish they'd just make it the official logo for WWE instead of using both a new one and an old one. Also, I don't know if this has been asked yet, but does this kill interest in buying Royal Rumble/Elimination Chamber for anyone else? I was planning on buying Royal Rumble, but I honestly feel like just reading results and waiting to watch it on the Network now rather than paying full price for 2 more PPVs. It does EC for me but not RR. Rumble is always a lot of fun and still a ways away from the Network. EC though, the Network launches the next day it will most likely be on there that day or a few days later at worst so I'd save some on that.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Jan 10, 2014 0:12:15 GMT -5
All Direct TV would accomplish by pulling the PPVs would be losing money and annoying some of their customers.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 10, 2014 0:25:02 GMT -5
I kinda like it actually, I just wish they'd just make it the official logo for WWE instead of using both a new one and an old one. Also, I don't know if this has been asked yet, but does this kill interest in buying Royal Rumble/Elimination Chamber for anyone else? I was planning on buying Royal Rumble, but I honestly feel like just reading results and waiting to watch it on the Network now rather than paying full price for 2 more PPVs. It does EC for me but not RR. Rumble is always a lot of fun and still a ways away from the Network. EC though, the Network launches the next day it will most likely be on there that day or a few days later at worst so I'd save some on that. I doubt EC will be on there that quickly.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jan 10, 2014 0:30:33 GMT -5
It does EC for me but not RR. Rumble is always a lot of fun and still a ways away from the Network. EC though, the Network launches the next day it will most likely be on there that day or a few days later at worst so I'd save some on that. I doubt EC will be on there that quickly. Yeah they probably will wait to put it up till sometime after the DVD is out.
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Post by Error on Jan 10, 2014 0:34:30 GMT -5
It does EC for me but not RR. Rumble is always a lot of fun and still a ways away from the Network. EC though, the Network launches the next day it will most likely be on there that day or a few days later at worst so I'd save some on that. I doubt EC will be on there that quickly. They said every past PPV and they have the tech to do it so I see no reason it is not on there by 26th at the latest when the replays are done.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 10, 2014 0:38:59 GMT -5
I kinda like it actually, I just wish they'd just make it the official logo for WWE instead of using both a new one and an old one. Also, I don't know if this has been asked yet, but does this kill interest in buying Royal Rumble/Elimination Chamber for anyone else? I was planning on buying Royal Rumble, but I honestly feel like just reading results and waiting to watch it on the Network now rather than paying full price for 2 more PPVs. It does EC for me but not RR. Rumble is always a lot of fun and still a ways away from the Network. EC though, the Network launches the next day it will most likely be on there that day or a few days later at worst so I'd save some on that. I guess it looks like they have the optimal 2 month block to lead into this, with Royal Rumble being one of the most anticipated matches of the year and the EC being a cool spectacle in itself. Imagine if they expected people to pay for Night of Champions or Battleground before the Network opening.
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Post by Gummydavidson on Jan 10, 2014 6:53:06 GMT -5
Why must the UK have to wait another year to get the WWE Network?!
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Post by Boo! on Jan 10, 2014 7:00:32 GMT -5
Other than PPVs and 'reality programming, I think they need something on the network to tie in with the weekly television shows else it becomes something that's irrelevant to the current product other than once a month. Maybe a special network only Wednesday night show for an hour with two or three matches taped at the SD tapings on Tuesday with storylines that'll bridge what happened on Raw leading up to Smackdown.
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Post by Boo! on Jan 10, 2014 7:02:20 GMT -5
Why must the UK have to wait another year to get the WWE Network?! Means and ways my friend. Means and ways. ....I don't mean "they're way mean"
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Post by mrtuesday on Jan 10, 2014 7:07:10 GMT -5
All Direct TV would accomplish by pulling the PPVs would be losing money and annoying some of their customers. It's not the first time Direct TV has pulled a stunt like this. Won't be the last. Direct TV is not above losing a few customers to try and get more money from a company.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 7:17:42 GMT -5
Other than PPVs and 'reality programming, I think they need something on the network to tie in with the weekly television shows else it becomes something that's irrelevant to the current product other than once a month. Maybe a special network only Wednesday night show for an hour with two or three matches taped at the SD tapings on Tuesday with storylines that'll bridge what happened on Raw leading up to Smackdown. They announced that the Network will have pre-shows and post-shows for both Raw and Smackdown every week. I honestly don't know who would have the time to watch that, but at least the WWE is putting forth the effort of producing new content. You also have to remember that they'll air Superstars, which mainly consists of Raw recaps.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Jan 10, 2014 7:38:34 GMT -5
Has anyone discussed the logo yet? I know we've seen it before, but I'm glad its officially being used. I kinda like it actually, I just wish they'd just make it the official logo for WWE instead of using both a new one and an old one I think it will be at some point, since WWE used it during the announcement of WrestleMania 31. This is like 1998, when the scratch logo started popping up but WWE still used the block logo as well. They're probably looking for a gradual transition, rather than just dropping their current design all at once. Remember that the new logo will have to appear on all merchandise as well, and WWE probably doesn't have that ready yet.
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Post by OldDirtyBernie on Jan 10, 2014 7:42:32 GMT -5
It really opens up so many possibilities for programming, it's just ridiculous. I really enjoy the Legends Roundtables with Dusty Rhodes and whatnot discussing what's going on in the current storylines as well as telling old stories. Example - Rhodes telling the story of when he wrestled Terry Funk a few years ago, Funk bringing out a branding iron, etc. Those roundtables have got to cost next to nothing to produce, minus the salaries and the cigars. I'm curious if they'd ever consider having some sort of programming like the old ECW Fan Cam. My understanding is that you're not allowed to bring video cameras into events, but they can't keep out cell phones, and I'm not sure of their policy on digital cameras. They could have some sort of contest format where you could upload clips and they could pick and choose what they would put up on the service, giving credit to the person/people that uploaded the clip(s). Also that way they'd have full control over what went up and what didn't.
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