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Post by Lupin the Third on Jan 13, 2014 0:10:27 GMT -5
You say that now, but don't come crying to me when you're walking through a dark forest at night, and you find a piece of paper that looks like THIS: Actually, by that point, you'll probably be dead. Wasn't the point that Slender Man only targeted children? Then wouldn't you probably be fine? I don't trust that at all. It's the Goddamn Slender Man. It'll eat whatever it wants.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 13, 2014 7:34:29 GMT -5
My favorite, and the one that had some of the weakest counter-arguments, was the Hopskinville Goblin incident. Not saying "this one hundred percent totally happened as the witnesses said", far from it, but it is a much more interesting case than most of them, which are way easier to explain away. Probably the most elaborate UFO/extraterrestrial encounter in history-as well as being a downright creepy story to boot. I'm also partial to the Flatwoods Monster case.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 13, 2014 7:46:43 GMT -5
Bigfoot and the Beast of Bray Road are two of my favorites. Bigfoot will always be at the top of the list because I do believe it exists, while some say it's impossible, there are far too many eyewitness accounts for it to be some large scale hoax. I could understand if it were say a few or maybe a hundred or so sightings, however, you have so many eyewitness accounts that seemingly come from sane individuals that you have to say "Not everyone is making this up."
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Post by Raskovnik on Jan 13, 2014 7:55:05 GMT -5
Mothman, Bloop, Bigfoot, and the idea that plesiosaurs are still around even today.
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Post by suave on Jan 13, 2014 8:09:35 GMT -5
The Bloop interested me a lot. Also that one Loch Ness Monster type creature that supposedly lives in Africa.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 13, 2014 8:13:05 GMT -5
Eyewitness accounts are meaningless as evidence for any of these things though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2014 8:17:13 GMT -5
I find it amusing that for aliens especially, while there have been UFO sightings in big cities most of the actual alien sightings happen in backwoods podunks. Having just read that Hopkinsville goblin story I'm inclined to believe that they drank some bad moonshine and hallucinated that shit.
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Post by BigBadZ on Jan 13, 2014 8:20:55 GMT -5
The leprechaun in Mobile, Alabama
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 13, 2014 8:25:59 GMT -5
Agree on the Hopkinsville thing, never saw any real credibility there.
Mothman also doesn't have any real evidence, and gets shakier when much of the information comes from fictionalized books well after the 'incident'.
You don't have to have any sorta mass hoax when a want to believe and simple misidentification will work fine for people to "see" whatever it is they're looking for.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 13, 2014 8:34:58 GMT -5
Flying Rods
Not because I believe they exist, but it's a fascinating concept. Same with Bigfoot.
My only real issue with Bigfoot these days is something called Trail Cameras. These things are all over the place. Hunters use them for obvious reasons, non-hunters use them just to see wildlife, conservation organizations use them all the time for counting and such.The government uses them in all their parks for herd management and whatnot.
That's also ignoring the fact that almost every human in North America now carries a device that's more than capable of taking photos/movies/audio recordings with GPS and time stamps on them.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 13, 2014 11:04:36 GMT -5
I really like the story of the Beast of Gévaudan. Maybe it's because I'm French so it's closer to me than other stories but there's just something fascinating about a wild unknown beast running amok, and what really sets it apart is that it came back after first supposedly being killed, and we STILL can't know for sure what it was (though the "exotic animal" explanation seems most likely to me). My favorite, and the one that had some of the weakest counter-arguments, was the Hopskinville Goblin incident. Not saying "this one hundred percent totally happened as the witnesses said", far from it, but it is a much more interesting case than most of them, which are way easier to explain away. Considering the supposed witnesses were drunk and that the description of the "goblins" just as easily describes great horned owls, not to mention they could "float" above the ground (like an owl standing on a tree branch) and walked in a swaying motion (likes owls do when they walk)... I'd say it's actually pretty easy to explain away. Correct me if IM wrong here but wasn't he created by 4chan or other internet hoaxers as a way to see if they could get people to believe it? Which don't get me wron that's pretty cool, but I don't consider it to be the same thing at all. It was created in the SomethingAwful forums and it was just for fun. It started in a photoshop thread where people were required to take mundane pictures and manipulate them to make them look creepy or supernatural. One guy posted a picture in a playground with an unnaturally tall and thin man whose arms looked like tentacles in the background, and he added a little backstory to it to make it even more disturbing. It became very popular and soon many people started making pictures including the Slenderman. With people adding details to his mythos bit by bit, some sort of "canon" appeared. A bit later, the first Slender-blogs and Vlogs such as Marble Hornets, Just Another Fool, EverymanHYBRID and many more showed up and became very popular as they often relied on audience participation. But yeah, it's more of a collaborative work/ARG/meme than an urban legend as no-one actually believes he's real, although I heard there have been already existing urban legends that may have influenced some creators and therefore the Slenderman lore. You say that now, but don't come crying to me when you're walking through a dark forest at night, and you find a piece of paper that looks like THIS: Actually, by that point, you'll probably be dead. Wasn't the point that Slender Man only targeted children? Then wouldn't you probably be fine? Nope. He prefers targeting children but he definitely also stalks adults and frequently makes them his "proxies". In fact, it seems to me that most Slenderman-related work depict him as stalking people from childhood but only acting on it once they become adults, implying that he may be "preparing" them in some way to be possessed. I find it amusing that for aliens especially, while there have been UFO sightings in big cities most of the actual alien sightings happen in backwoods podunks. To be fair, if you were in a spaceship visiting an alien planet full of people who know nothing about your existence and might freak out and attack you on sight, would you rather land in or fly over a discreet isolated area with few, if any inhabitants or in a crowded, presumably well-guarded location where your appearance will attract everyone's attention? (and if that planet's information sharing systems are as developed as Earth's, I do mean everyone).
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Post by Wolfman Rose on Jan 13, 2014 11:24:04 GMT -5
The kraken. You can see the influence giant squids had on the story, but the fact there's unexplored parts of the ocean still unexplored (particularly deep parts where things evolve f**king huge), it's implausible but you can't say for certain that something like that couldn't be out there.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 13, 2014 13:02:19 GMT -5
Eyewitness accounts are meaningless as evidence for any of these things though. Okay, if that's the case then why bother bringing in witnesses to a trial if they're meaningless? Granted it's not physical evidence per se, however, if enough people say they saw an individual physically assault another person, at some point the jury will say "Well, more than one person saw this him/her do this. Maybe there's some credence to it?" That's why point with the Bigfoot eyewitness accounts. Not everyone can possibly be making it up or part of a worldwide hoax to keep a particular folklore alive.
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riseofsetian1981
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 13, 2014 13:03:16 GMT -5
Flying Rods Not because I believe they exist, but it's a fascinating concept. Same with Bigfoot. My only real issue with Bigfoot these days is something called Trail Cameras. These things are all over the place. Hunters use them for obvious reasons, non-hunters use them just to see wildlife, conservation organizations use them all the time for counting and such.The government uses them in all their parks for herd management and whatnot. That's also ignoring the fact that almost every human in North America now carries a device that's more than capable of taking photos/movies/audio recordings with GPS and time stamps on them. We're also forgetting that Bigfoot is assumed to be a lot smarter than your average human and animal. So what good are trail cams these days?
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jan 13, 2014 16:00:17 GMT -5
The one cool thing I like about Bigfoot is that every area in America has its own variety, like the South has the Skunk Ape
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