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Post by 543Y2J on Feb 10, 2014 23:28:43 GMT -5
Oh and f*** ADR. Enough is enough WWE with this 4 year push. You have literally lost millions with him. I thought I couldn't dislike the guy anymore...
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Post by mrjl on Feb 10, 2014 23:29:58 GMT -5
the belt changes hands. Being the face of the company doesn't so easily. It's like winning a Super Bowl or World Series, against being the top paid player on the team that they'll do anything to keep. How does that make any kind of sense though? Shouldn't the world champion be the face of the company to begin with?You tell em', mrjl! one of the faces. But hell, you book a guy for a tv appearence a month in advance he could theoretically lose the belt by then |
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Post by Richard on Feb 10, 2014 23:31:17 GMT -5
Oh and f*** ADR. Enough is enough WWE with this 4 year push. You have literally lost millions with him But think of the pesos and perros and all those other things that they shout about! |
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 10, 2014 23:31:29 GMT -5
It was an okay Raw honestly. Betty White was a wasted guest host, and the main event was nothing special. Though seriously, I'm sick to f***ing death of the "face of the WWE" being more important than the championship. Tell me about it. No one's even interested in the belt at this point, they just want Triple H's support. Triple H has finally fulfilled his destiny and become the WWE Championship. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 23:31:33 GMT -5
Tell me about it. No one's even interested in the belt at this point, they just want Triple H's support. the belt changes hands. Being the face of the company doesn't so easily. It's like winning a Super Bowl or World Series, against being the top paid player on the team that they'll do anything to keep. But that sort of thing doesn't work by wrestling logic. On teams, sure, there are standout athletes each with their sponsorship deals and all of that, but teams are what get things done. In wrestling, it's every man operating on his own and Orton's supposedly the best because they tell us he is even though he's constantly losing clean, he's supposedly beloved by the people in charge when they completely treat him like shit and make life hell for him, and his character's constantly making unreasonable demands and being a whiny little bitch vastly overestimating his worth, with everyone for some reason just going with it. None of it makes the slightest bit of sense, and it falls apart further when you have the commentators constantly talking about Orton being the biggest star in the company only to turn around and flash a statistic about Cena has the most Facebook followers of any athlete in the US or to play a commercial with him in it. On those rare occasions when they show the opening it ends with a shot of Cena saluting the camera. There is absolutely no way to buy this, "Orton is the chosen one, the star of the show," crap and they just will not shut up about it no matter what. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 23:32:16 GMT -5
the belt changes hands. Being the face of the company doesn't so easily. It's like winning a Super Bowl or World Series, against being the top paid player on the team that they'll do anything to keep. How does that make any kind of sense though? Shouldn't the world champion be the face of the company to begin with? Of course not dude, we need all this meta-kayfabe melodrama about BEST FOR BUSINESS. It's obviously working, the product has been amazing since the Authority angle started. |
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Post by mrjl on Feb 10, 2014 23:32:48 GMT -5
the belt changes hands. Being the face of the company doesn't so easily. It's like winning a Super Bowl or World Series, against being the top paid player on the team that they'll do anything to keep. But wouldn't a face not be interested in being the fan-hating, asshole boss' number 1 bitch, like Orton is? Faces have advantages 1. They like interacting with the fans so being sent out to meet them isn't the pain it would be for someone like Orton. Cena going to a make a wish kid is a welcome respite. 2. They expect corporate to screw them over anyway so it's not like it's a surprise. |
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 10, 2014 23:35:02 GMT -5
Oh and f*** ADR. Enough is enough WWE with this 4 year push. You have literally lost millions with him But think of the pesos and perros and all those other things that they shout about! DESTINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 10, 2014 23:36:18 GMT -5
But wouldn't a face not be interested in being the fan-hating, asshole boss' number 1 bitch, like Orton is? Faces have advantages 1. They like interacting with the fans so being sent out to meet them isn't the pain it would be for someone like Orton. Cena going to a make a wish kid is a welcome respite. 2. They expect corporate to screw them over anyway so it's not like it's a surprise. But why would Cena care? He's gonna do Make-A-Wish regardless of which. Why would he, or any babyface for that matter, care about living up the to the Authority's standards of "being the face of the WWE?" Just win the title, get money, and make your fans happy. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 10, 2014 23:39:26 GMT -5
Oh and f*** ADR. Enough is enough WWE with this 4 year push. You have literally lost millions with him But think of the pesos and perros and all those other things that they shout about! You perros need to learn some respect for Mexico's Greatest Export! |
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Post by mrjl on Feb 10, 2014 23:40:47 GMT -5
the belt changes hands. Being the face of the company doesn't so easily. It's like winning a Super Bowl or World Series, against being the top paid player on the team that they'll do anything to keep. But that sort of thing doesn't work by wrestling logic. On teams, sure, there are standout athletes each with their sponsorship deals and all of that, but teams are what get things done. In wrestling, it's every man operating on his own and Orton's supposedly the best because they tell us he is even though he's constantly losing clean, he's supposedly beloved by the people in charge when they completely treat him like shit and make life hell for him, and his character's constantly making unreasonable demands and being a whiny little bitch vastly overestimating his worth, with everyone for some reason just going with it. None of it makes the slightest bit of sense, and it falls apart further when you have the commentators constantly talking about Orton being the biggest star in the company only to turn around and flash a statistic about Cena has the most Facebook followers of any athlete in the US or to play a commercial with him in it. On those rare occasions when they show the opening it ends with a shot of Cena saluting the camera. There is absolutely no way to buy this, "Orton is the chosen one, the star of the show," crap and they just will not shut up about it no matter what. Orton was chosen though, so that it true. But he was chosen both because it justifies Triple H's and the McMahons past investment of him and it was convienient; he had the title shot to get the belt off Bryan with the briefcase. Orton is pissed because their relationship is just convenience rather than legit support. But the Authority doesn't want to just completely pull support because that makes them look like cheap opportunists who can't even control their employees even when they help them. As for being the best.. Ric Flair was the best in the NWA, despite constantly cheating to win or needing the Horsemen to save him. But if a face got a questionable win the belt was quickly returned to him, despite the fact Flair's many victories frequently made a mockery of the rules but were allowed to stand. I think it's consistent with past behavior on keeping the belt on weak heel champs |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Feb 10, 2014 23:52:32 GMT -5
Nikki Bella makes me wish WWE had the TNA taint cam. That's it. From now on it's the taint cam. Well done, crow. |
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Post by kevin on Feb 11, 2014 0:33:17 GMT -5
the belt changes hands. Being the face of the company doesn't so easily. It's like winning a Super Bowl or World Series, against being the top paid player on the team that they'll do anything to keep. But that sort of thing doesn't work by wrestling logic. On teams, sure, there are standout athletes each with their sponsorship deals and all of that, but teams are what get things done. In wrestling, it's every man operating on his own and Orton's supposedly the best because they tell us he is even though he's constantly losing clean, he's supposedly beloved by the people in charge when they completely treat him like shit and make life hell for him, and his character's constantly making unreasonable demands and being a whiny little bitch vastly overestimating his worth, with everyone for some reason just going with it. None of it makes the slightest bit of sense, and it falls apart further when you have the commentators constantly talking about Orton being the biggest star in the company only to turn around and flash a statistic about Cena has the most Facebook followers of any athlete in the US or to play a commercial with him in it. On those rare occasions when they show the opening it ends with a shot of Cena saluting the camera. There is absolutely no way to buy this, "Orton is the chosen one, the star of the show," crap and they just will not shut up about it no matter what. You see in reality John Cena is the face in the current ongoing storyline Orton is the face. I have never found it hard to differentiate that. |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 11, 2014 0:39:43 GMT -5
Oh and f*** ADR. Enough is enough WWE with this 4 year push. You have literally lost millions with him. I thought I couldn't dislike the guy anymore... Move him to the midcard. The guy would be great in the US/IC Title scene, occasionally appearing in the main event. That being said, how the f*** was that segment supposed to build to the ppv match. Batista just beat the shit out of Bertie, so there's no reason to get the ppv since Bertie already got popped for what he said. And hell, the destruction of Bertie shows he's not in Batista's league, so you can't buy him as a threat. I did love how the only thing Batista did that got a pop was the table spot. For the second week in a row, the crowd was more on Bertie's side than Batista's. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 0:40:29 GMT -5
Nikki Bella makes me wish WWE had the TNA taint cam. That's it. From now on it's the taint cam. Well done, crow. I don't know, it's too much of a unisex term. What if it's used for F***ing Gunner? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 0:49:56 GMT -5
But that sort of thing doesn't work by wrestling logic. On teams, sure, there are standout athletes each with their sponsorship deals and all of that, but teams are what get things done. In wrestling, it's every man operating on his own and Orton's supposedly the best because they tell us he is even though he's constantly losing clean, he's supposedly beloved by the people in charge when they completely treat him like shit and make life hell for him, and his character's constantly making unreasonable demands and being a whiny little bitch vastly overestimating his worth, with everyone for some reason just going with it. None of it makes the slightest bit of sense, and it falls apart further when you have the commentators constantly talking about Orton being the biggest star in the company only to turn around and flash a statistic about Cena has the most Facebook followers of any athlete in the US or to play a commercial with him in it. On those rare occasions when they show the opening it ends with a shot of Cena saluting the camera. There is absolutely no way to buy this, "Orton is the chosen one, the star of the show," crap and they just will not shut up about it no matter what. You see in reality John Cena is the face in the current ongoing storyline Orton is the face. I have never found it hard to differentiate that. The thing is though, they plug stuff mid-show that shows Cena is the face of the company and focus ads around it and the like. It's not like back when Charmed was running they were on coming back from commercial letting you know how Julian McMahon's relationship with the actress whose character his wasn't dating was going. Or, to keep it strictly in wrestling, it's like if in the middle of the Cena / Umaga feud they decided to play that video of Umaga chopping the shit out of one of the Spirit Squad guys while Cena stood nearby drunk off his ass and repeatedly yelling, "UUUUUUMMMAAAAAAGAAAAAA!!!" It's just outright telling you how fake and pointless the storyline is. Though that reminds me of that video, I should see if I can find that. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 11, 2014 0:51:10 GMT -5
That's it. From now on it's the taint cam. Well done, crow. I don't know, it's too much of a unisex term. What if it's used for F***ing Gunner? Then all my dreams will have come true. |
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Post by Macho Pichu on Feb 11, 2014 1:22:00 GMT -5
So that Barrett/Lawler segment from last week had no follow up this week. Was the angle scrapped, or is BNB truly "no more," thus explaining his absence?
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Feb 11, 2014 1:28:00 GMT -5
So that Barrett/Lawler segment from last week had no follow up this week. Was the angle scrapped, or is BNB truly "no more," thus explaining his absence? ...my god, Jerry was right. This week, Barrett wasn't around! |
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Post by Macho Pichu on Feb 11, 2014 1:33:25 GMT -5
That's what the line was. I was trying to wipe the specifics of an awful segment from memory while remembering that it happened.
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