Let's imagine The Undertaker in WCW

[TGM]

So after Montreal, The Undertaker walks out of the WWF in protest and goes to WCW. He's also the registered owner of the Undertaker name, so WCW don't have to come up with a lame knock off name, like "Dark Lord" or whatever.

Whom does he face and how does his career go? How does he fit in with Goldberg and the NWO? Who buries him during the Invasion? etc

[Hanzo]

Starrcade win streak!!!!


Man, it's tough to imagine Undertaker in WCW...

I'd say Sting destroys Hogan and wins the belt, then the lights go out and Undertaker appears, starting that Undertaker vs. Sting feud that everyone wanted and Undertaker eventually faces Sting for the belt and wins. Or Hogan defeats Sting and makes the NWO look unbeatable, then the Undertaker appears and over time, beats them all one by one until he gets to Hogan and wins the belt.

While either these scenarios are going on, Goldberg is still piling up wins. He finally becomes the number one contender for WCW World Heavyweight Title and faces Undertaker (who hasn't lost since his arrival) for the title at Starrcade 98.

After Goldberg defeats the Undertaker, Undertaker heads back to WWF. Goldberg faces several new challengers over time, and eventually he faces a wrestler who, under the radar, had been building up a win streak of his own: Wrath.


That's the best I could do. Like I said earlier, it's hard for me to imagine Undertaker in WCW. I don't think he would have lasted long. It would have been like how the NWO was in the WWF--out of place. However, it does pose another interesting question: if Undertaker had jumped ship, what would have become of Kane?

Of course, with WCW being WCW, they probably would have just turned him back into Mean Mark Callous and have him job to Luger.

[JTG Fan]

If it followed the style at the time, an episode of Nitro would have ended with:

"Brain, do you know who that man is?"
"I'd recognize him anywhere! That's Mark Calloway!"

[kingoftheindies]

Didn't Undertaker at some point approach Bischoff about jumping ship but Eric said he didn't know what to do with Mark Calloway since they couldn't use the Taker gimmick? I remember this being a fairly popular rumor back in the day

[hassanchop]

He becomes Biker Taker in good ole WCW, only he's referred to as Mean Mark Callous.

[Hassan bin Sober]

Realistically he would of went straight to the nWo and probably take Paul Bearer with him because you can never have enough people standing around in the background while Hogan is speaking on the mic. His character probably would of been more Biker Taker-like if only to make him seem more gangster-like.

[psychokiller]

Well for one thing we would have finally got Taker vs. Sting when they were in their prime. It would have been saved for Starrcade 1998 if they were smart about it, but this is WCW were talking about so they would have likely did it at SuperBrawl 1998 with a month buildup. It's hard to say who they would have went over due to Sting being the WCW guy. Would they have actually let Taker go over Sting in a WCW ring? I'm not so sure about that. Taker feuding with the nWo would have been really interesting though. I'm just imaging a Taker, Sting & Goldberg vs. Hogan, Hall & Nash main event on a PPV. The buy rate for that would have been huge with the right buildup.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Mar 19, 2014 12:54:01 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

Didn't Undertaker at some point approach Bischoff about jumping ship but Eric said he didn't know what to do with Mark Calloway since they couldn't use the Taker gimmick? I remember this being a fairly popular rumor back in the day

Maybe? But I doubt Vince would show the loyalty he has if this did happen.

Allegedly one of the reasons the Iron Shiek always gets used is because he told Vince how Gagne offered him cash to break Hogan's legs. Vince appreciated his honesty and it's why he still get used on occasion, no matter how huge an ass he makes of himself.

[Cry Me a Wiggle]

I actually don't think he would have gone nWo. Bischoff was keen to get a supernatural cult stable up and running in 1999 with Vampiro, so I think Undertaker would have jump started that thought process and we would have gotten an early version of the Ministry in WCW. Hell, I bet Vampiro would have joined up as a member. If that happened, Raven's Flock would have probably been merged into the group as well.

However, I can't see him achieving much main event success with Hogan and the nWo still at the height of their powers (and politicking) in '98. Undertaker would have probably hovered around the U.S. Title scene along with Bret Hart and DDP, at least through 1999 when Russo arrives and heavily pushes him. He would have probably gotten the World Title in 2000, maybe in lieu of Sid during Sullivan's reign or in lieu of Steiner during the post-Russo, pre-Fusient days.

That said, how different would the WWF have been if they lost both Bret Hart and Undertaker at the same time? It's hard to imagine the Attitude Era without the Underatker, and that may have given WCW more of an edge during this period of the Wars.

[Digital Witness]

Raven's Flock as a group of lost souls doing the bidding of the Undertaker with Vampiro as the mid card level guy does sound like something that would be awesome.

Also, due to Vampiro's allegiance with The Great Muta, imagine an Undertaker and Great Muta alliance.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm picturing not a Taker/Vampiro vs. Sting feud, but a bad ass full on main event Ministry of Darkness group consisting of Taker, Sting, Muta, and Vampiro with maybe Raven and Saturn in the mix as well. I know WCW could have managed to screw it up, but it sounds absolutely bad ass on paper.

['Foretold' Joker]

(Lights Go Dark)
Brain: Whats going on?
Tony Schiavone: I don't .. wait
(Dong)
Tony Schiavone: ... Yes this is the greatest night in our industry!
Brain: Huh
Tony Schiavone: It's the The Grave Digger!

*Teams with Sting against the NWO*
*Betrays Sting for matches with Sting*
*Gets beaten by Goldberg*
*Leaves in 2001 and heads back to wwe after not being used properly by WCW*

[Deleted]

Remember what Warrior ended up doing? Imagine exactly all of that, but with the Undertaker instead. It makes only slightly more sense.

[toodarkmark]

Well if I were booking... I would start another "invasion" because you have Bret Hart and Undertaker coming in. I bring in Terry Funk to join them, and create a "professional wrestling" stable. Like, you have the nWo shitting on pro wrestling, you have WCW jobbing and the growth of Goldberg, and then all of the sudden these two icon of icons come in and say "nWo" will be dead, WCW will be the best professional wrestling promotion in the world. I think put Sting/Undertaker/Bret Hart/Terry Funk and then have them just destroy the nWo. I dont think I would have created nWo Wolfpac, but I wouldnt put Nash with the group.

I just started to think everyone they had there at the time. Its insane how many main event hall of famers there were. I can see how and why Bret Hart got lost. As much as I love WCW, it may be a good thing this never happened.

I would a million times more wish that Flair/Cornette/Sullivan had maintained the book in the NWA in 1990 and created a stronger character for Callaway and he became a WCW guy. But he could have ended up being the Black Scorpion or Oz, so once again, prob a good thing this didnt happen.

[KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!]

Teddy Long could have been booking one on one matches with DAH UNDERTAKAH much earlier.

[________ has left the building]

Except with Mark Calloway playing the role.

[Deleted]

See Bret Hart: copy and paste.

[Ron Woodsman aka Shempaholic]

- "Hollywood Hogan, I am going to take your life force, and you will... lie in tranquility."
- "Fans, this is absolutely the greatest night in the history of the sport. The Mortician, along with his manager M. Balmer, has taken out the entire nWo. We're outta time, good night fans." - Tony Schiavone

Several months of WWF lawsuits and general disarray later, Hollywood Hogan beats Mean Mark Calloway in 10 minutes by countout during a casket match. M. Balmer is obviously a member of the nWo by this point.

[SAJ Forth]

Since this uses him as the owner of the name Undertaker, I can see it slightly better than Bret. But he'd still get lost in some shuffle. Otherwise, I could see a half shoot return to the Mean Mark persona. So his biker run would come early.

[Clawley Race]

The Kiss Demon

[thegame415]

I think it would make sense to have him, Bret and Bulldog form another group of outsiders who feud with the NWO.