Lt. Palumbo
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on May 1, 2014 6:55:29 GMT -5
RELAX!!!OK, just f***ing relax! Hear me out and don't take it too seriously: Lately I get the feeling that Cena's a man out of time, just like Bret was when the attitude era was coming in. Leaving aside views that it was never really Cenas time or whatever or whatever hate you might have for him. It just feels like they're moving into a new era. For a good while they had returned to the formula of a clear distinction between clean cut white meat baby faces and jackass cowardly heels. And Cena is unwilling or unable to change with the times. The same was true of Bret. Granted it lead to Bret's heel turn (spectacular motivation by the way, sort of an "I didn't change, you people did" sort of thing). But I'm not turning this into a heel turn thread. There's a Bret Hart quote I'm failing to find, it may have been on the back of the Wrestling with Shadows video case, he was lamenting the moral landscape of wrestling at the time, it was something like "It used to be black and white, there were good guys and bad guys, now all they want is shades of grey". The moral landscape of WWE is shifting (finally aligning with audience expectations perhaps?) and it's shifting around Cena and leaving him behind. Point is...Bray Wyatt is the new Steve Austin...there I said it
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on May 1, 2014 7:01:42 GMT -5
WHAT THE F*** DO YOU MEAN RELAX? !!!! *continues to read the rest*
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 1, 2014 7:02:30 GMT -5
I was definitely getting Bret '97 vibes from Cena's "why did you all do that to me?" promo on Raw.
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Eunös ✈
Dalek
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Tolerated, just not practically liked.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on May 1, 2014 7:05:12 GMT -5
So whos going to screw him over at Survivor Series then?
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Post by slappy on May 1, 2014 7:11:05 GMT -5
So whos going to screw him over at Survivor Series then? Stephanie. Then he'll write NJPW in the air.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 1, 2014 7:19:55 GMT -5
So whos going to screw him over at Survivor Series then? HBK was the anti-Bret. Hadn't we come to the decision that Punk is the anti-Cena?
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saintpat
El Dandy
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Post by saintpat on May 1, 2014 7:26:58 GMT -5
Cena's true Bret analogy is that he is a babyface to the marks/casuals and a heel to the smarks/IWC, just as Bret was a heel in the U.S. and a face outside the U.S.
So he is a "shades of gray" tweener character.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 1, 2014 7:53:58 GMT -5
FRUSTRATED ISN'T THE GODDAMNED WORD!!!
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on May 1, 2014 7:56:22 GMT -5
I hope this means Cena's going to tell Batista he knows what's happening, with Dave replying as loud as he possibly can "I DON'T KNOW SHIT"
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Post by TheSchattenjager on May 1, 2014 8:19:27 GMT -5
I want Cena to be in the ring with a kid with Cena armbands, with the kid saying Cena must be frustrated over what just took place.
Cena pushes the kid on his ass.
FRUSTRATED ISN'T THE GODDAMN WORD FOR IT! THIS IS BULLSHIT!
Etc.
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on May 1, 2014 8:22:26 GMT -5
Come to think of it Cena did Monday's promo inside a cage. I know how WWE loves using past events as reference. It could be some sort of foreshadowing.
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Post by Nickybojelais on May 1, 2014 9:08:06 GMT -5
"Frustrated isn't the gosh dang word, this is poopy"
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Lancers
El Dandy
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Post by Lancers on May 1, 2014 9:13:19 GMT -5
DON'T YOU F***ING TELL ME TO RELAX! DON'T YOU F***ING DARE!!!!
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Post by Freddy BooJangles on May 1, 2014 9:30:15 GMT -5
Cena fails to relax that time's past his Barney the Dinosaur ass by, that's there's no true good guys & bad guys in the world, just shades of grey
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on May 1, 2014 9:39:19 GMT -5
Except with a much smaller ego, way better on the mic, a generally higher impact offense and I assume he's bedded a lot less ring rats.
But seriously, I disagree. The only prominent anti heroes on the roster now are Cesaro and BNB, and they're in the process of turning face. Other than that the babyface and heel distinctions seem to be pretty clear cut nowadays.
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Post by rowdy426 on May 1, 2014 9:39:37 GMT -5
I was definitely getting Bret '97 vibes from Cena's "why did you all do that to me?" promo on Raw. And it was in a cage, no less...
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Post by g1megatronfan on May 1, 2014 10:04:00 GMT -5
That does seem like where they're headed with him. They've tried to make heels out of the fans who boo Cena before, but it's a lot more obvious with what they did on Monday. I'm not so sure Wyatt can be the Austin to Cena's '97 Bret Hart though. His whole little promo does sound like something ripped right out of early 1997 Bret Hart's mouth though.
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Essential1
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Post by Essential1 on May 1, 2014 10:08:11 GMT -5
Tyler Reks disagrees.
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Post by The Man They Call Asher on May 1, 2014 10:19:54 GMT -5
Well you can take that straight to the bank.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 10:23:34 GMT -5
Yeah, but who is Rick "The Model" Martell in this scenario?
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