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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 6:56:07 GMT -5
I think you're allowed to think parts of your life suck regardless of how blessed you are, and are allowed to express it. I could have the cutest little dog, and pet it, and enjoy its company, but if it jumps into my lap and lands paws-first on my crotch, it still hurts, despite how many people can't have a dog, or are allergic to them, etc. Punk can think and express (or have an ex-girlfriend express for him) whatever he wants. Doesn't mean I have to sympathize with him though. Look, I'm all for celebrities having boundaries. Showing up to someone's house unannounced is totally unacceptable, and like I said before, some fans can be really overbearing. But Punk just doesn't seem to like fan interaction at all, and when you're in a business like pro wrestling that's driven by fans, that's just a really shitty attitude to have. You never hear about John Cena pulling his hood up and brooding his way through an airport because he doesn't wanna' be recognized. You never hear about Daniel Bryan scowling at people who wanna' get a picture with him and Brie in public. He's gonna' have to brush people off sometimes, I get that, but he can do it in a way that doesn't make him come off like a huge antisocial prick.
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Post by lookout on May 9, 2014 7:14:36 GMT -5
The WWE treats their on-air talent like disposable toys. Anyone who gets one up on them is okay in my book. And yes, I'm sure being even as minorly famous as Punk is has extremely annoying consequences. Getting semi-stalked is scary, and it's okay for someone to complain about it. The fact that it happens worse to other people doesn't change a thing. All that said, there's no way in hell Punk's retired. Seriously, if I walked out my back door to take the trash out and there were people hanging out in my yard, I'd either call the cops or start cussing people out at the very least. The candy thing, while a sweet gesture from a child to their hero...what parent says "I know he's your favorite, so I'm going to find out where he lives and we're going to his front door!" What I can't grasp, and I never have when it comes to people like those, is the thought process of wanting to see a celebrity so badly. I mean do you have such a low opinion of yourself that you think just seeing someone famous means you accomplished something amazing? Good grief. People who go so nuts at seeing someone famous or through such incredible (and embarrassing)lengths to see someone annoy me more than anyone in this world. I don't get it and I never will.
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Post by Red Impact on May 9, 2014 7:28:37 GMT -5
It's bad enough to do it at airports and gyms and such, but at home? We have a word for that, it's stalking. And sorry, if you're so celebrity obsessed that you have to track them down at home, you need to take a good, long look at yourself in the mirror and evaluate what you're doing with your life. No one is worth that level of creeping out on.
That said, if Punk didn't see the insane fandom coming, then he was being really naive. You don't go into an international entertainment company as a performer and then expect not to be noticed outside of it. Anonymity is the realm of the not-famous, and whether fans take it too far doesn't change the fact that you can't realistically expect to have the perks of being anonymous and the perks of being a big star like you're Hannah Montana or something.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 7:36:40 GMT -5
Having read some of the things Slater got called on twitter just for writing the column, not being famous herself but just commenting on it, I'm not sure why anyone would want to be a reasonably well known name to wrestling fans.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on May 9, 2014 7:42:33 GMT -5
As much as I miss seeing him, I support his decision as a fan. He owes the fans nothing. He busted his ass for almost 2 decades in an unforgiving business that is mocked by naysayers for being "fake" despite the fact that there are real risks and dangers that go along with the work of working. By leaving pro wrestling and WWE, he made the decision to exit the limelight just as he converse made the decision to enter the limelight by deciding to work for WWE. I don't think it is too much to ask for those "fans" to give him some peace now that he just wants to be Phil Brooks.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 7:47:23 GMT -5
As much as I miss seeing him, I support his decision as a fan. He owes the fans nothing. He busted his ass for almost 2 decades in an unforgiving business that is mocked by naysayers for being "fake" despite the fact that there are real risks and dangers that go along with the work of working. By leaving pro wrestling and WWE, he made the decision to exit the limelight just as he converse made the decision to enter the limelight by deciding to work for WWE. I don't think it is too much to ask for those "fans" to give him some peace now that he just wants to be Phil Brooks. But ... but ... he told me on Twitter to keep being me!
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on May 9, 2014 7:49:54 GMT -5
Funny how he supposed too be isolated yet wasn't he just at a Blackhawks game doing a little more than just watching the game?
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Post by Sephiroth on May 9, 2014 7:53:42 GMT -5
Ironically enough, in trying to escape the rigors of the road Punk probably made it worse by putting wrestling fans into such a frenzy of speculation that they will undoubtedly badger him to no end seeking details. Heck, a couple weeks ago we a had a thread here about FAN members visiting Chicago looking for him.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 7:54:03 GMT -5
Funny how he supposed too be isolated yet wasn't he just at a Blackhawks game doing a little more than just watching the game? I've seen five year old kids shoot the opening puck at hockey games. It hardly requires some great level of public awareness.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on May 9, 2014 8:05:10 GMT -5
Funny how he supposed too be isolated yet wasn't he just at a Blackhawks game doing a little more than just watching the game? I've seen five year old kids shoot the opening puck at hockey games. It hardly requires some great level of public awareness. A famous guy going on the ice in front of thousands of fan isn't isolated. For a five year old sure most people don't care too find them after it. But being famous as known hey he there is a different story.
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Post by Texas Tornado on May 9, 2014 8:08:13 GMT -5
I think there's something seriously wrong with this board when it comes to CM Punk. The fact that some people are just casually condoning stalking is mindblowing. Just because he's 'famous' doesn't mean that everyone in the world has the right to harass him. And all of the anger pointed toward Punk bitching about being famous when he didn't even write this post is goofy too. What the f***, man?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 9, 2014 8:34:46 GMT -5
Put me in the "he knew he was going to deal with some annoying fans when he hit it big, but he still doesn't deserve to be constantly harassed" category.
Not all celebs are the same with their fame- some find a good balance, some make working with the press a full time job to stay in the public mix, and others are more low key. Although I will say that dropping the puck for a major NHL franchise isn't likely to decrease the chances of fans annoying him.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on May 9, 2014 8:58:41 GMT -5
Some of you motherf***ers are absolutely insane
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Post by Malcolm on May 9, 2014 9:01:35 GMT -5
In a perfect world, this is how people would treat celebrities.
Me: Hey aren't you(insert celebrity name here)?
Celebrity: Yes. Yes, I am.
Me: Cool... Welp, see you later.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 9:08:46 GMT -5
Gonna be a good harvest this year. Corn's looking mighty fine.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on May 9, 2014 9:10:46 GMT -5
Look, I'm all for celebrities having boundaries. Showing up to someone's house unannounced is totally unacceptable, and like I said before, some fans can be really overbearing. But Punk just doesn't seem to like fan interaction at all, and when you're in a business like pro wrestling that's driven by fans, that's just a really shitty attitude to have. You never hear about John Cena pulling his hood up and brooding his way through an airport because he doesn't wanna' be recognized. You never hear about Daniel Bryan scowling at people who wanna' get a picture with him and Brie in public. He's gonna' have to brush people off sometimes, I get that, but he can do it in a way that doesn't make him come off like a huge antisocial prick. "I'm all for celebrities having boundaries, but goddamn it, I HATE those celebrities who have BOUNDARIES!!"
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Post by khali on May 9, 2014 9:12:13 GMT -5
Celebrities are human beings too. Getting famous doesn't come with it he idea that you never have any privacy. I think it's easy for some of us to criticize him not liking when it's not us who's privacy is invaded. It doesn't matter if you're famous or not--people start showing up at your house, you'd be annoyed. And the other thing is, everyone has days where they're not having a good day and don't particularly want to talk to people. Celebrities get those days too, but they still get random strangers popping up in front of them.
They're not robots. They still have all the normal emotions, so naturally there will be times where they don't like it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 9, 2014 9:17:20 GMT -5
As much as I like and respect CM Punk
As much as I like to speculate about his possible return
Some posts on this Thread are just... well as everyone else has already said, absolutely bonkers.
I'm newer to FAN, so if I knew currently mentioning CM Punk was basically a trigger equivalent to someone pulling a switch on a C4 in an unstable building complex, I wouldn't have ever even started that eventual thread that got locked eventually.
Theres a difference between liking and respecting a mans work in the the ring to basically stalking and hounding him like a crazy lunatic. Would I like to meet CM Punk someday? Sure. Would I stalk him and camp outside of his house? No. That's just insane to me.
It's true that fame does come with this price though. Another example is watching the Daniel Bryan WrestleMania Documentary about his rise in fame and such. Unfortunately, fans will be like this, fans will do anything they can to meet their hero's even if it's morally wrong in some cases.
This Thread man, sheesh...
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on May 9, 2014 9:18:26 GMT -5
As much as I miss seeing him, I support his decision as a fan. He owes the fans nothing. He busted his ass for almost 2 decades in an unforgiving business that is mocked by naysayers for being "fake" despite the fact that there are real risks and dangers that go along with the work of working. By leaving pro wrestling and WWE, he made the decision to exit the limelight just as he converse made the decision to enter the limelight by deciding to work for WWE. I don't think it is too much to ask for those "fans" to give him some peace now that he just wants to be Phil Brooks. But ... but ... he told me on Twitter to keep being me! Wait a second, was that YOU who put that kid up to stuffing Punk's mail slot with chocolate? You better hope Punk isn't a dog lover....
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Post by Hanzo on May 9, 2014 9:53:08 GMT -5
I can understand both sides.
As far as fans mobbing you everywhere you go, whether it's right or not, that's just the way a lot of fans are and the price you pay for being famous. It is what it is. There's a reason why these people get paid all those millions of dollars and it's not because they have a normal job and a normal life. If you didn't want your net worth to be so high, not have to travel all around the country every night regardless of how you feel, and not to be swarmed by fans everywhere you go, then you should have just worked 2nd shift at a grocery store. (I work second shift at a grocery store, so I'm not making fun of anyone.)
Now, on the flip side, just because you support your favorite actor/sports star/wrestler/whatever by buying all their merch and stuff, that doesn't give you any right to have access to their personal lives. You get what you pay for. You buy a shirt? You get a shirt. You buy a DVD? You get a DVD. You buy a ticket? You (hopefully) get an awesome show/game/concert/whatever. (But if you don't, then that's just the risk you take...) Business is business and that's all it is.
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