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Post by bluemeii on Mar 11, 2015 11:30:18 GMT -5
Also, am I the only one who isn't a fan of the new playoff set-up? No...I hate it. If they can get the West to 16 teams also I think they should just go back to the old 20-21 style format years back. More division games. Only a home and home against teams outside your division. Maybe a rotating 3rd game against conference out of division teams just to balance the schedules out. Playoffs are 1v4 and 2v3 in division then those winners play. So on and so forth. Yeah call me an old fogie...don't care. It's what I grew up on and it's still my favorite. Led to legit rivalries, and the division games meant that much more. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 11:55:29 GMT -5
Amazingly early for this, but we officially have 2 teams out of the playoff picture. Buffalo was eliminated yesterday as a result of Boston winning, and Edmonton was eliminated after losing to the Wings today. Next teams facing elimination in their respective conferences are Toronto and Arizona. A part of me wishes it's Carolina instead of Toronto. I don't understand why people keep supporting Toronto if the ownership refuses to actually compete for championships. But, then again, people support the Knicks and Cubs. |
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Mar 11, 2015 12:08:50 GMT -5
Amazingly early for this, but we officially have 2 teams out of the playoff picture. Buffalo was eliminated yesterday as a result of Boston winning, and Edmonton was eliminated after losing to the Wings today. Next teams facing elimination in their respective conferences are Toronto and Arizona. A part of me wishes it's Carolina instead of Toronto. I don't understand why people keep supporting Toronto if the ownership refuses to actually compete for championships. But, then again, people support the Knicks and Cubs. Welcome to being Blackhawks' fan in the 90's! People wonder why I am an Avs fan near Chi. Because when I became a hockey fan, it was the 90's for the Hawks, and just no. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 11, 2015 13:05:27 GMT -5
The Bruins are quietly getting their shit together. Could be dangerous in the playoffs.
What in the blue hell happened to the Leafs? Good lord, that team is a dumpster fire
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 13:40:53 GMT -5
Also, am I the only one who isn't a fan of the new playoff set-up? Yeah it's pretty stupid, but it does guarantee a load of inter-division series so I'll let it pass. Which get old and stale fast. The playoffs are meant to create new rivalries amongst conference. Like vancouver and Chicago or montreal and Ottawa. Plus it doesn't create a lot of parity. Shitty division plays shitty division and strong division teams are eliminated early |
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Post by Andy Martin on Mar 11, 2015 17:54:35 GMT -5
You think you're pissed off now, wait until Nelson is fired in the off-season.(rightly or wrongly) Unless they land Bylsma or Babcock there is no reason to fire Nelson. And if they do land One of those two he should be demoted to assistant coach. Seriously if the oilers don't make it next season they'll tie Florida Panthers for longest playoff drought ever. Only one guy remains during those Miserable years. Kevin Lowe I'd add McLellan to the list as well(and is likely the most realistic choice of the three and even he's a stretch.) No chance in hell Nelson accepts as demotion. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 18:10:40 GMT -5
Unless they land Bylsma or Babcock there is no reason to fire Nelson. And if they do land One of those two he should be demoted to assistant coach. Seriously if the oilers don't make it next season they'll tie Florida Panthers for longest playoff drought ever. Only one guy remains during those Miserable years. Kevin Lowe I'd add McLellan to the list as well(and is likely the most realistic choice of the three and even he's a stretch.) No chance in hell Nelson accepts as demotion. Depends if he realistically can get head coach job in another team or be an assistant in another organization. Like former Oiler coaches don't really have good post Oilers careers. Like the only one who is really having any success is Renney being the assistant coach in Detroit. Krueger is having success in a different sport and MacTavish was hurting and would of continued hurting until best buddy Lowe offered him a job. Forgot about McLellan. Yeah I would want that. Dude seems to be bulletproof in San Jose |
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Post by Andy Martin on Mar 11, 2015 18:30:39 GMT -5
The Bruins are quietly getting their shit together. Could be dangerous in the playoffs. What in the blue hell happened to the Leafs? Good lord, that team is a dumpster fire The fired Randy Carlyle to try and go all-in for a coach they have no guarantee of getting during the off-season. Well that and the numbers finally catching up with them. |
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Post by bluemeii on Mar 12, 2015 15:45:56 GMT -5
islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=757741Nice...makes the probable top 6 next year all under contract or at worst RFA's until then end of the 18/19 season. Only bad thing is this means we'll probably lose either Okposo or Nielson after the next season. Talent up front (Dal Colle, Ho-Sang) due in the next year or 2 to replace them though.
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Post by triplethreatmark on Mar 12, 2015 15:58:31 GMT -5
islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=757741Nice...makes the probable top 6 next year all under contract or at worst RFA's until then end of the 18/19 season. Only bad thing is this means we'll probably lose either Okposo or Nielson after the next season. Talent up front (Dal Colle, Ho-Sang) due in the next year or 2 to replace them though. Nielsen I would like on the Kings. The guy would be our ideal 3rd center behind Kopi and Carter. The guy is solid defensively, a hard worker, can play on the PP, and is a shootout ace. He's exactly what we need in that spot. |
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Post by bluemeii on Mar 12, 2015 16:04:17 GMT -5
islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=757741Nice...makes the probable top 6 next year all under contract or at worst RFA's until then end of the 18/19 season. Only bad thing is this means we'll probably lose either Okposo or Nielson after the next season. Talent up front (Dal Colle, Ho-Sang) due in the next year or 2 to replace them though. Nielsen I would like on the Kings. The guy would be our ideal 3rd center behind Kopi and Carter. The guy is solid defensively, a hard worker, can play on the PP, and is a shootout ace. He's exactly what we need in that spot. He's still mine now  . Could be trade bait though next season if they decide the can't sign him next year though. Especially if one of the kids step up. Top 2 lines are basically set now for the forseable future so I can't really see them signing him for big money to center the 3rd line. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 18:10:19 GMT -5
The scary thing is Boychuck is now the highest paid player on that team. Even more then Tavares who still has years under his contract with a cap hit of 5.5 million. Garth Snow is a excellent GM on negotiating contracts (Rick DiPietro fiasco aside but that was his first contract and Wang had tons of influence) and a f***ing wizard on the waiver wire. It's tad too much but Boychuck was going to get that money from free agency anyways. The Oilers were probably going to offer him PK Subban money at him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 20:42:43 GMT -5
Kevin Kline will be out for 3-4 weeks. Tough loss for the Rangers as he's been one of the better D-men lately.
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Post by bluemeii on Mar 12, 2015 20:59:21 GMT -5
The scary thing is Boychuck is now the highest paid player on that team. Even more then Tavares who still has years under his contract with a cap hit of 5.5 million. Garth Snow is a excellent GM on negotiating contracts (Rick DiPietro fiasco aside but that was his first contract and Wang had tons of influence) and a f***ing wizard on the waiver wire. It's tad too much but Boychuck was going to get that money from free agency anyways. The Oilers were probably going to offer him PK Subban money at him. Not a huge Garth fan but I do have to give him credit lately. He loves them long term contracts, but unfortunately he was giving them out to the wrong guys when he first took over (Bailey who I just think is Bertuzzi on the Isles 2.0, and especially DiPi). Least now he is giving them out to the right guys and he's got most of the better talent locked up long term, especially on D. |
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Post by The Captain on Mar 13, 2015 15:53:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 16:02:26 GMT -5
Oilers management every season in a nut shell
Step one: Be Bold in the off season.Sign a Russian defenceman or two and promote them as potential top-pairing D. Publicly extoll your coach as a magician who will coax playoff calibre performances out of rookies and career AHLers. Ignore public calls to shore up the centre and goalie positions.
Step two: Act surprised when every move you make backfires spectacularly. Trade off malcontents for draft picks and watch them succeed on other teams, especially when they play you. Sell your assets at the trade deadline for more draft picks.
Step three: Step up to the mike and say, "The Edmonton Oilers are pleased to select, first overall in this year's draft,....."
Step four: Rinse. Repeat
Seriously I'm pissed off hearing the media saying the Oilers are intentionally tanking. They are unintentionally tanking who are doing worse then teams intentionally tanking
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Post by Andy Martin on Mar 13, 2015 18:49:22 GMT -5
There's tanking and then there's genuinely not being a good hockey team.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 13, 2015 19:15:27 GMT -5
If the Oilers were intentionally tanking, it would've produced some results by now. A team isn't this bad for this long without being incompetent. Even the Maple Leafs had a playoff berth here and there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 19:24:58 GMT -5
There's tanking and then there's genuinely not being a good hockey team. Which is sad. Buffalo and Edmonton seemed to try improve this off season though but Buffalo decided to intentionally tank fast. Carolina walked in expecting to tank. Toronto I don't know if they thought they were good enough to not change anything or knew their team would tank. Arizona couldn't get anything done in the off season and Mike Smith's poor performance decided to intentionally tank this season and I don't blame them since generational talents have saved franchises before Gretzky (Edmonton and LA), Lemieux (Penguins), Ovechkin (Washington), Patrick Kane he was the last really hyped up pick before McJesus (Chicago), Crosby (Penguins again). Yes I'm implying the league rigged the 2007 draft for Chicago to win Kane especially on how Toews was the best tracking prospect of the 2006 class. Warning I'm about to put on my tin foil hat. But I'm convinced the league only rigs drafts if it's a generational talent that is one of the few players that could actually make the league money there really hasn't been a hyped super star past 2008 with Stamkos. Plus Bettman is a product of Stern who is well known for being a dirty commissioner. Plus I'm sure the league purposely got rid of the lottery ball winner moves up 4 spots rule to number 1 for this reason. They had to do it two seasons earlier so it didn't look suspicious they are rigging the draft for McDavid. Of the teams out of playoffs I'm for sure McDavid isn't going to go to the teams that will barely make the league any money or have a high risk of relocation (Arizona, Carolina, Ottawa, Florida, Winnipeg possibly or the Edmonton Oilers where everyone who watches or is involved with hockey knows that the incompetency of their management would somehow spectacularly ruin the prospects of Fleury, Ovechkin, Crosby, and Toews if they somehow drafted them and still be challenging for a lottery spot. But in all seriousness my money is Toronto will be "winning" McDavid. Philly, Buffalo, and Columbus all of good chances of "winning" him as well. So with that being said kudo's to Carolina and Arizona for intentionally tanking so they are forced to actually win a Eichel. If the Oilers were intentionally tanking, it would've produced some results by now. A team isn't this bad for this long without being incompetent. Even the Maple Leafs had a playoff berth here and there. Which makes so much comical. They are somehow worse then teams who intentionally tank. They used the excuse of the "rebuild" hoping all these high draft picks would save the team. Problem is you need to draft beyond the first round well and build teams around their superstars with a solid cast. I remember that one season when both Malkin and Crosby both missed a combined like 80+ games together and they still had one of the top seeds of the Eastern Conference. The Oiler management haven't said the dreaded rebuild word for so long because they've been exposed. Both Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle are the longest serving Oiler's on the team currently. Ryan Nugent Hopkins is third. It doesn't get much sadder then that. |
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Post by Steveweiser on Mar 13, 2015 19:50:17 GMT -5
Not been in this thread for a while (oh have the Blackhawks ever been inconsistent lately), but I decided to watch the first period of the Flames/Leafs game. Toronto get a five minute power play... and conspire to concede TWO breakaway shorthanded goals in that time. THAT'S how you know a team is bad.
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. Could be trade bait though next season if they decide the can't sign him next year though. Especially if one of the kids step up. Top 2 lines are basically set now for the forseable future so I can't really see them signing him for big money to center the 3rd line.
