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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 23, 2014 8:16:54 GMT -5
Not to they still kinda force you in that direction in ME 3... even if you were like me and didn't pursue her romantically at all. In ME 3 they kind of force your hand with everyone. My Shepherd had to push off pretty much everyone of the crew except for Vega and Garrus. yeah but... minor spoiler to the last mission {Spoiler} the last thing before doing the Earth mission (at least for me it coulda been different for others) was Liara doing her psychic mind meld thing and then hanging onto and leaning all over Shepard in an implied romantic relationship. |
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Post by Hakumental on Jun 23, 2014 8:36:12 GMT -5
I've always thought of it to mean a character who is added to a story that already has all the characters it needs, and thus the author has to dumb down the rest of the cast in order to accommodate this one. With predictable results.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Jun 23, 2014 10:01:44 GMT -5
How about the Doctor (especially 10 and 11). just about every complaint about a Mary Sue character applies to the Moffat era Doctor. I know Snakebite brought up River but she's just a part time character, the Doctor is the focus of the series ( except when Amy on screen, kind of lose interest in all other things when she on).
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 23, 2014 10:32:18 GMT -5
I definitely feel like this thread has jumped into the "character I don't like = Mary Sue" thing the past couple of pages, as even if I don't think all the characters are good characters, I don't think most of them are Mary Sues. How about the Doctor (especially 10 and 11). just about every complaint about a Mary Sue character applies to the Moffat era Doctor. I know Snakebite brought up River but she's just a part time character, the Doctor is the focus of the series ( except when Amy on screen, kind of lose interest in all other things when she on). He still stumbles and falters before he solves the problem, and a lot of people usually die in the process. He does solve the problem, because he's the hero and that's what you're watching for, but he doesn't just pull a new ability out of his ass to do it. They've definitely gone a overboard with making him a christ figure, but he still falters more than enough for him not to be considered one. |
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jun 23, 2014 10:56:48 GMT -5
I've got a character that actually became a Mary Sue over a series of novels, but who might be a bit obscure now (despite being in like 18 books). Laura Hamelton's Anita Blake. Started off as a necromancer who killed supernatural beings on the side. Became a pan-morphic almost vampire human who had all the powers of everyone else only better and who everyone wante4d to f***. Oh, and that last part, that's both figurative and literal, since one of her powers was, to quote Pam Poovey, being a chupcabra but for dicks. You beat me to it. I gave up after Obsidian Butterfly but I hear she gets even worse. That series is honestly OK up to Blue Moon but I would not recommend going any further. How the hell she is still a Marshall I have no idea as she put monsters over humans pretty much constantly. Such a difference over how the books started out. Short of Hamilton getting gangbanged by every God on Mount Olympus I don't see the books changing anytime soon. |
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Post by angryfan on Jun 23, 2014 15:18:06 GMT -5
You beat me to it. I gave up after Obsidian Butterfly but I hear she gets even worse. That series is honestly OK up to Blue Moon but I would not recommend going any further. How the hell she is still a Marshall I have no idea as she put monsters over humans pretty much constantly. Such a difference over how the books started out. Short of Hamilton getting gangbanged by every God on Mount Olympus I don't see the books changing anytime soon. What drives me the most nuts is that they used to be decently written, they used to have characters that were solid and actually likable, not to mention with some depth. I remember picking up Guilty Pleasures and thinking that even if it was obviously a romantically tinged plot, the character of Anita Blake was solid. She was a smart ass who would respond to the "boo, I'm a scary monster" crap with "oh, that's nice" and then shoot them in the face. It wasn't supernatural (though there were obvious undertones in her character with the necromancy bit) it was just "Here's a character with a varied background, who carries a lot of guns, and is buddy buddy with a rather pleasant sociopathic hit man". Then...then her snatch became it's own MacGuffin. |
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