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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 15, 2014 14:50:30 GMT -5
Bucs rookie RB Charles Sims will miss 12-14 weeks after undergoing surgery on his right ankle.
NFL suspended Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe one game for violating the league's substance-abuse policy.
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Post by nate5054 on Aug 15, 2014 14:53:23 GMT -5
Wouldn't the new punishment for domestic abuse need to be collectively bargained and thus the NFL taking baby steps an easier way to get it in than just jumping straight to a long term ban that the PA would fight tooth and nail? Yep. As it is now it's just kinda lumped into "conduct detrimental to league" and the commish only has so much leeway with that one. No way the NFLPA would let their guys get suspended without pay for a year for one offense. As it is now they can't get the HGH testing through because of the penalty structure, this would just be another thing sitting in limbo if they went to them with a one year/first offense structure. Is there only so much leeway he can take? I've been searching for what his maximum punishment can be for that, but I can't find it. I do know during BountyGate he suspended Vilma for a year for "conduct detrimental to the league." Hell he suspended Rothlesberger for just being accused of sexual assault, and as far as I know there's no video evidence of him doing it or was he ever convicted. So it appears he can do a lot with that clause. I do know the player's suspensions were overturned though. Still to me this is not just about an actual punishment. It's about taking a stand, and Goodell isn't willing to when it comes to domestic violence.
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Post by BRV on Aug 15, 2014 15:33:42 GMT -5
The NFL as a league has also been soft as hell on domestic violence. The biggest myth ever purported by the NFL media is that Roger Goodell takes a hard-line, zero-tolerance stance on off-field violence. The Ray Rice situation just shines a brighter light on it because of the ghastly video of him dragging his unconscious wife off of a casino elevator and also because of his star power as one of the league's premier running backs.
However, look back on how the NFL has handled some domestic violence cases for its players since Goodell took over for Paul Tagliabue in September 2006:
- Cardinals linebacker Daryl Washington: four games for grabbing his girlfriend by the throat and shoving her to the ground in May 2013. - Packers cornerback Brandon Underwood: two games for pushing his wife to the ground in June 2011. - Dolphins defensive tackle Tony McDaniel: one game for shoving his wife to the ground in February 2010. - Buccaneers safety Jermaine Phillips: one game for strangling his wife after she dialed 911 in January 2010. - Falcons tackle Quinn Ojinnaka: one game for throwing his wife down a flight of stairs in May 2009. - Seahawks defensive tackle Rocky Bernard: one game for hitting his girlfriend in the head in a nightclub in April 2008. - Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall: one game for hitting his girlfriend in March 2008. - Raiders cornerback Fabian Washington: one game for domestic battery in February 2008.
And that's just a few. The complete list, and the gory details, are available on the USA Today website.
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Post by BRV on Aug 15, 2014 19:16:11 GMT -5
I'm not exaggerating when I say there has been a penalty flag thrown once in every three plays during tonight's Eagles vs. Patriots game.
This is unwatchable garbage. Nobody tunes in to see the referees. Congratulations to the NFL and the Competition Committee, they have made professional football absolutely terrible.
I honestly think in 10 or 15 years, we'll remember the 2014 season as the year when pro football's popularity began to wane. These flags are killing the game.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 15, 2014 19:18:30 GMT -5
The Panthers "have not yet given up" on WR Tiquan Underwood.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 15, 2014 19:34:01 GMT -5
So much for Mallet
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Aug 15, 2014 19:49:59 GMT -5
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Post by bluemeii on Aug 15, 2014 20:21:08 GMT -5
This is for BRV...and cause it's true. This game is awful to watch. ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvHwZcTIUAAJ9aF.jpg:large)
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Post by Orange on Aug 15, 2014 20:24:25 GMT -5
I don't mind excessive flags in pre-season (not to say I ENJOY them) because it's only the pre-season, but if this over-excessive flagging shit comes through into the regular season I'm going to be pissed.
Hopefully they're using the pre-season as a way to set boundaries for the refs and that's why they're going so hardcore, but there's no need to be so hard in the regular season. People will get more pissed off than they did with the replacement refs.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 15, 2014 21:01:24 GMT -5
Working with the second-team offense, rookie Jimmy Garoppolo completed 6-of-12 passes for 72 yards and two touchdowns in New England's second preseason game Friday night.
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Post by BRV on Aug 15, 2014 21:18:08 GMT -5
I don't mind excessive flags in pre-season (not to say I ENJOY them) because it's only the pre-season, but if this over-excessive flagging shit comes through into the regular season I'm going to be pissed. Hopefully they're using the pre-season as a way to set boundaries for the refs and that's why they're going so hardcore, but there's no need to be so hard in the regular season. People will get more pissed off than they did with the replacement refs. It's already worse than the replacement refs. This is taking the total enjoyment out of the game, because after literally every single play, whether it's a 30-yard gain or a five-yard loss, I look for the yellow on the field. It's destroying the enjoyment that comes out of a big play. And I hate the idea of setting boundaries in the preseason, then calling the game differently in the regular season. So we're going to spend the four preseason weeks establishing that any time a defensive back lays a hand on a receiver, it's a penalty, then once week one of the regular season kicks off, that's not a penalty anymore? And I'm not exaggerating when I say "lays a hand on a receiver", because earlier in tonight's Eagles vs. Patriots game, an Eagles defensive back literally laid his hand on the chest of Patriots' receiver Brian Tyms as Tyms was streaking down the sideline, and the glancing hand did nothing to slow Tyms or break his stride, and yet a flag was thrown. As I've said earlier, it's unwatchable garbage. I'll still watch the Patriots' 16 games, because that's my team, but it's affecting how I can enjoy those games. And as for watching non-Patriots games, I'll probably tune out, because I don't watch the NFL for over officious idiots tossing yellow cloths after EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY. And as for this Eagles vs. Patriots game, it's a look at Roger Goodell's dream vision of the NFL. 42-35 in the fourth quarter, no sign of any defense in sight, and flags everywhere. Get used to it, because it's what the NFL is becoming. As I've said earlier, in 10 or 15 years, when the NFL is the second or third-most popular sport in America, we'll all point to the 2014 season as when the downturn in popularity began.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 15, 2014 22:39:40 GMT -5
Ryan Mallett completed 7-of-11 passes for 92 yards and a touchdown in the Patriots' second preseason game Friday night.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 16, 2014 9:29:51 GMT -5
Raiders rookie QB Derek Carr left the team's second preseason game with a concussion.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 16, 2014 9:59:41 GMT -5
I'm fine with them using the preseason to work out the kinks with officiating, personally. It makes the preseason garbage, sure, but not any more than it already is. Preseason football always sucked.
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Post by BRV on Aug 16, 2014 11:38:51 GMT -5
I'm fine with them using the preseason to work out the kinks with officiating, personally. It makes the preseason garbage, sure, but not any more than it already is. Preseason football always sucked. That's the thing, though. What kinks need to be worked out? The NFL's emphasis on defensive holding and illegal contact is fixing a problem that didn't exist. The NFL just came off consecutive seasons of record offensive output. Was anyone complaining about defenses having an unfair advantage? Was anyone bristling at the notion of the secondary getting too physical with receivers? These new rule changes only further neuter defenses. And the terrible officiating this preseason will only lead to more offense. Sure, the referees might put the flags away by week one, but by that time, cornerbacks, linebackers, and safeties will be so aware that any sort of contact with a receiver might draw a flag, so they'll slack off, and we'll only get more and more offense. Does anyone, outside of the most hardcore fantasy football player, really enjoy a 56-49 shootout in which defense is non-existent? Because that's what we're destined for in the NFL in 2014. Like I've said, this rule emphasis is only creating a problem. It's fixing nothing. Hell, nothing needed to be fixed. I really want to know who it was out there that looked at last season and said, "Y'know, the defense really has an unfair advantage. We need to even things out."
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 16, 2014 11:55:34 GMT -5
I'm fine with them using the preseason to work out the kinks with officiating, personally. It makes the preseason garbage, sure, but not any more than it already is. Preseason football always sucked. That's the thing, though. What kinks need to be worked out? The NFL's emphasis on defensive holding and illegal contact is fixing a problem that didn't exist. The NFL just came off consecutive seasons of record offensive output. Was anyone complaining about defenses having an unfair advantage? Was anyone bristling at the notion of the secondary getting too physical with receivers? These new rule changes only further neuter defenses. And the terrible officiating this preseason will only lead to more offense. Sure, the referees might put the flags away by week one, but by that time, cornerbacks, linebackers, and safeties will be so aware that any sort of contact with a receiver might draw a flag, so they'll slack off, and we'll only get more and more offense. Does anyone, outside of the most hardcore fantasy football player, really enjoy a 56-49 shootout in which defense is non-existent? Because that's what we're destined for in the NFL in 2014. Like I've said, this rule emphasis is only creating a problem. It's fixing nothing. Hell, nothing needed to be fixed. I really want to know who it was out there that looked at last season and said, "Y'know, the defense really has an unfair advantage. We need to even things out." They need to see if the emphasis works or not, and if it doesn't, they'll pull back. It's on the job training and working out the kinks for a time when nothing they do ever matters. For the second part, no, defenses will adjust. They always adjust throughout the season, even when there isn't any big change in emphasis, if they didn't adjust, they wouldn't be pros. I'm not arguing for the emphasis change, I think it's stupid, but the preseason is the time for this experimentation. No team is so rigid that they can't adjust, and if they are, then the coaching staff isn't long for the league.
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Post by BRV on Aug 16, 2014 12:53:28 GMT -5
They need to see if the emphasis works or not, and if it doesn't, they'll pull back. It's on the job training and working out the kinks for a time when nothing they do ever matters. For the second part, no, defenses will adjust. They always adjust throughout the season, even when there isn't any big change in emphasis, if they didn't adjust, they wouldn't be pros. I'm not arguing for the emphasis change, I think it's stupid, but the preseason is the time for this experimentation. No team is so rigid that they can't adjust, and if they are, then the coaching staff isn't long for the league. I just hate that the emphasis is "stop playing defense", as though anyone could say that defenses got away with too much and were too physical last season, in the midst of the most prolific offensive explosion in league history. If the emphasis was on flagging pick plays and offensive pass interference, in an effort to make the game more even, then yes, I would agree with it. But emphasizing calling more illegal contact and defensive holding penalties is only going to further neuter the defenses.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 16:30:47 GMT -5
Working with the second-team offense, rookie Jimmy Garoppolo completed 6-of-12 passes for 72 yards and two touchdowns in New England's second preseason game Friday night. Garoppolo has looked pretty good from what little I've seen of him.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 16, 2014 17:58:51 GMT -5
They need to see if the emphasis works or not, and if it doesn't, they'll pull back. It's on the job training and working out the kinks for a time when nothing they do ever matters. For the second part, no, defenses will adjust. They always adjust throughout the season, even when there isn't any big change in emphasis, if they didn't adjust, they wouldn't be pros. I'm not arguing for the emphasis change, I think it's stupid, but the preseason is the time for this experimentation. No team is so rigid that they can't adjust, and if they are, then the coaching staff isn't long for the league. I just hate that the emphasis is "stop playing defense", as though anyone could say that defenses got away with too much and were too physical last season, in the midst of the most prolific offensive explosion in league history. If the emphasis was on flagging pick plays and offensive pass interference, in an effort to make the game more even, then yes, I would agree with it. But emphasizing calling more illegal contact and defensive holding penalties is only going to further neuter the defenses. I do too, but I would rather them experiment in the preseason, see how big of a clusterf*** it is, and not do it during the regular season. Players aren't going to change the way they've played for years just because of extra flags in the preseason.
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Post by nate5054 on Aug 17, 2014 1:47:59 GMT -5
Man the NFL Network sucks. I recorded the Giants/Colts game. I know pre-season games are meaningless and all, even though the NFL tries to make them not to be, but I did sort of want to be as surprised as I could be about it. Of course the idiots there decide to put the final score of the game on the stupid ticker. I hate those f***ing tickers so much. They had their place at one point, but for now I would totally buy a tv that would block that shit out if I could. Actually I just found this thing for $10. I think I shall order it: www.yahoo.com/tech/prevent-tv-sports-spoilers-with-tickerblocker-80234921245.htmlAnd for some reason, the game went from 10 or so minutes left in the 2nd to 3 minutes left in the 2nd. Great job NFL Network for sucking, great job. Unless it was a problem with the Colts broadcast they aired.
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