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Post by benstudd on Jul 30, 2014 3:36:22 GMT -5
And there were many.
What form the company would have taken by not making them? For example, their first Champ was Ken Shamrock. Was he a mistake? Or was the mistake to take the belt off him? Shamrock gave the company so legitimacy. He was a shoot fighter and maybe if he had kept the belt longer and TNA would have promoted him, it would have had affected the product and they could have a become more of a shoot-fighting/wrestling hybrid. Some said he was lacked charisma and wasn't very exciting. So then should Jarrett have been the first Champ? He was the only known star in the company. Maybe he could have been champ right there in 2002 to put the company on the map and then he would have put someone over in 2003 and not get the belt ever again.
What other mistakes could have changed TNA if they were not made? And what do you think would have happened differently.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 30, 2014 3:49:52 GMT -5
I doubt it'd have ever been in the cards to have an MMA focus or anything, but Ken Shamrock had some name recognition, which was probably pretty good early on for them. I don't really fault them for that, or even for having Jarrett as a top heel. I just think their main early problem was running with Planet Jarrett stuff for entirely too long, and for not giving Rhino, Raven, and face Monty Brown more of a chance to share some of that spotlight.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 30, 2014 4:07:38 GMT -5
Jarrett was always going to be a main event guy, because the owner of the company will never go anywhere else.
But not pulling the trigger on Monty Brown is really the first dipshit move of many in company history.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 30, 2014 7:39:19 GMT -5
An alternate TNA-would actually be making money now because they advertised their shows properly and used whatever mainstream cross promotion they could get to expand their audience.
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Post by benstudd on Jul 30, 2014 10:22:51 GMT -5
Another thing is that TNA went right into television first and they filled the screen with former wrestlers of WCW, ECW and the WWF. I wonder if they had they had started as a classic wrestling promotion first and not have so many rejects they wouldn't have had the same grass root respect that ROH has had over the years? Instead of doing television right away, they could have come up with a roster of a bunch of Indy guys and if we remember the first TV shows, TNA had a lot of fresh young talented guys from AJ to Lowki to Amazing Red, James Storm, Chris Harris. You have 20 to 30 guys like that that you don't have to overpay and they are fresh and innovative, it's not a bunch of fat indy workers here. You then pick a territory like say the state of Tennesee and visit all the cities for a year with these guys, build a good word of mouth. Then a year from now you do your first PPV.
Also about that, the weekly PPV was a new concept cause the Jarretts felt they had to have a weekly TV program to succeed, but why not pick the classic model of 12 monthly PPVs instead? They could have had a weekly show at the Asylum but they didn't have to have it shown on screen. Just do 12 great shows a year and have them pack a punch. Yet you do your weekly shows around the same place to maintain a link with the fanbase in Nashville.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 30, 2014 10:58:11 GMT -5
An alternate TNA would be getting 1.9 to 2.1 ratings because it worked to slowly, but surely build a fanbase by putting on a consistent product. There would still be a large number of people online wishing for the death of the company because it's trying to put on a mainstream product and it's not the WWE.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 30, 2014 11:26:07 GMT -5
Then it wouldn't be called TNA, Vince Russo also was responsible for the name, I wish Jerry Jarrett shouldn't have listened to his son requests, to hire Russo, in his shoot interview jerry said that Jeff sometimes threw him the guilt card, "oh you abandoned me with that crazy woman when I was a kid, while you were promoting Memphis". The company's foundation was built around a mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 11:46:59 GMT -5
I get that to MMA fans, Shamrock is a legend, but to wrestling fans that don't watch MMA he was just some WWF midcarder. Probably not the wisest choice for a world champ.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 30, 2014 11:53:27 GMT -5
I get that to MMA fans, Shamrock is a legend, but to wrestling fans that don't watch MMA he was just some WWF midcarder. Probably not the wisest choice for a world champ. Out of the lineup they had at the time, I'd say he was the best choice
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 11:56:14 GMT -5
I get that to MMA fans, Shamrock is a legend, but to wrestling fans that don't watch MMA he was just some WWF midcarder. Probably not the wisest choice for a world champ. Out of the lineup they had at the time, I'd say he was the best choice In this alternate world, they had a better roster at first.
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