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Post by ICBM on Aug 21, 2014 20:48:23 GMT -5
Like ND got no skeletons in their closet Thanks for reminding me, I still hav'nt looked up the rape allegation and I had meant to. But let me answer your reply: come on man it was humor
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Aug 21, 2014 23:24:49 GMT -5
Like ND got no skeletons in their closet Are we still discussing this? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 22, 2014 1:44:27 GMT -5
It's perfectly valid. Some girl got raped and ND covered it up. No one was brought to justice or anything.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Aug 22, 2014 9:46:14 GMT -5
It's perfectly valid. Some girl got raped and ND covered it up. No one was brought to justice or anything. Evidence the school covered it up?
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 22, 2014 19:45:13 GMT -5
DGB waiver denied, so he won't be playing for Oklahoma this season
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 22, 2014 19:47:07 GMT -5
Lorenzen piece on ESPN.com.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 22, 2014 20:04:31 GMT -5
It's perfectly valid. Some girl got raped and ND covered it up. No one was brought to justice or anything. Evidence the school covered it up? Evidence that they investigated it properly?
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Post by ICBM on Aug 22, 2014 21:07:53 GMT -5
Lorenzen piece on ESPN.com. Lol. Hellz yeah
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Post by ICBM on Aug 22, 2014 21:09:56 GMT -5
Evidence the school covered it up? Evidence that they investigated it properly? Hold fire. The south bend police are lead agency on any criminal investigation. Not the Notre dame athletic department. But, Notre dame is obliged by polite society and common sense to follow up and admonish or expel any student who had any negative impact on a no shit police matter.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 22, 2014 21:10:56 GMT -5
DGB waiver denied, so he won't be playing for Oklahoma this season If I had to bet he be in the 2015 draft
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 22, 2014 21:12:11 GMT -5
Also can't forget that poor kid that fell to his death thanks to the strong wind
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Post by ICBM on Aug 22, 2014 21:27:57 GMT -5
Okie dokie. I did a quick google of the Notre dame rape(s). I found a bunch of opinionated news stories that yielded roughly a 80/20 split between pissed off judgement and actual newsworthy facts. Just sayin. But, what was clear:
In the case of players harassing victims and friends of victims, The independent ICBM panel finds that players did harass victims and associates of victims in the name of Notre dame football. It is the opinion of this panel that those players who actively took part should have been expelled without delay. The player who were accused should have been thoroughly investigated. I cannot find a single article that suggests a thorough investigation took place. This panel knows that the death of a victim would negate physical evidence and testimony but that does not indicate a cause for termination of any investigation. We find that the investigative efforts were stopped and the case closed before satisfactory findings could be determined. The fault lies with the investigators and not the University.
In the case of the University acting upon the information they had, we find that the university did not reprimand or admonish the accused or harassing players despite a lack of determination in the investigation. The University could have at the point in which the investigation was closed, conducted its own review as they continually point out as their main tactic at self policing(see current investigations and previous investigations into academic violations). The lack of internal review is startling and shameful.
Final synopsis: Notre. Dame displayed a lack of institutional control in the case and should be investigated for this infraction by the NCAA. If fault is assigned to Notre Dame, penalties should be levied. A prudent penalty would be to vacate all wins in games those players participated in, a heavy fine not to exceed $60(I think that is the NCAA cap), and a one year post season ban. The fine should repay monies earned during that time(bowl payouts, TV and gate receipts. Finally the University (not just the athletic department) should be reprimanded by the NCAA for its lack of institutional control.
The independent investigative review board is hereby concluded, now let's go get some tacos
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 22, 2014 21:38:58 GMT -5
Evidence that they investigated it properly? Hold fire. The south bend police are lead agency on any criminal investigation. Not the Notre dame athletic department. But, Notre dame is obliged by polite society and common sense to follow up and admonish or expel any student who had any negative impact on a no shit police matter. You've said that before, but you've also said that you haven't looked up the details of the case. You should.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 22, 2014 21:39:04 GMT -5
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Post by ICBM on Aug 22, 2014 23:38:06 GMT -5
Hold fire. The south bend police are lead agency on any criminal investigation. Not the Notre dame athletic department. But, Notre dame is obliged by polite society and common sense to follow up and admonish or expel any student who had any negative impact on a no shit police matter. You've said that before, but you've also said that you haven't looked up the details of the case. You should. I mentioned the lack of details in the pages I found. I'm not the FBI dude, I'm at the mercy of google. Opinion heavy articles that all said nearly the same thing insofar as fact. The victims were harassed by football players and the accused were football players. The university didn't do much. I don't know what else you are expecting of me or anyone who reads the same articles. They did bad things and the bad things look to have been covered up but I nor you can prove it, so until someone in authority does the guilty to unpunished. What else are you looking for?
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 23, 2014 8:30:43 GMT -5
You've said that before, but you've also said that you haven't looked up the details of the case. You should. I mentioned the lack of details in the pages I found. I'm not the FBI dude, I'm at the mercy of google. Opinion heavy articles that all said nearly the same thing insofar as fact. The victims were harassed by football players and the accused were football players. The university didn't do much. I don't know what else you are expecting of me or anyone who reads the same articles. They did bad things and the bad things look to have been covered up but I nor you can prove it, so until someone in authority does the guilty to unpunished. What else are you looking for? I was typing before you posted about what you found. It wasn't meant to admonish you, just have you look at how the investigation went to know that it wasn't just a matter of the oddness behind the investigation not being a matter of jurisdiction. The investigators never even talked to the accused player until after the girl killed herself, and in a case where it's he-said-she-said all that does is gives them time to tighten up their story. They wanted to compare it to an investigative reporter. That's a terrible approach and analogy. A reporter may only get one interview, if any, from a high profile suspect, police typically get more and they still have court they can bring people in to. As far as South Bend PD goes, by now it's pretty obvious that the gap between college town PD and campus PD isn't always that wide. I'm not saying they did it, or that there was a definite cover up, but when someone throws around the notion that a girl committing suicide should end the investigation and that anyone who brought it up, it's relevant to point out that the detective acted awfully unusual about this case from the outset. It wasn't a well done investigation, and nothing seemed to come from the threats sent to her.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 23, 2014 13:20:48 GMT -5
Washington announced sophomore Jeff Lindquist as starting quarterback.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 19:07:02 GMT -5
I saw the Eastern Washington/Sam Houston State game and my God, that EWU field! I love red, but not as a Fieldturf color.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 23, 2014 19:10:35 GMT -5
I saw the Eastern Washington/Sam Houston State game and my God, that EWU field! I love red, but not as a Fieldturf color. honestly, I wish all fields were required to be green aside from the logos and end zones. It's gaudy otherwise, even with Boise.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 23, 2014 19:53:15 GMT -5
SHSU was penalized 16 times to EWU's 1.
Also had a Jalen Overstreet sighting. He was one of the players kicked off the Longhorns a few weeks ago, and he's already playing for SHSU. He made a 15 yard reception at the end of the game
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