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Post by Lupin the Third on Aug 15, 2014 20:32:37 GMT -5
I've shown you five pictures, and everytime you've said Warrior. Are you telling me that this, for one second...doesn't look like Jim Hellwig?
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Aug 15, 2014 20:34:24 GMT -5
Yeah I don't see what the big deal is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 20:42:51 GMT -5
But again, it's not like Hogan was dragging Warrior's name through the mud. He was answering a reporter's questions about his final moments with Warrior. Hogan answered in a non-controversial way. I think Dana Warrior brought negativity into it. From the video and from Hogan's account, it sounds like Hogan was the one who actually approached Warrior at Mania wanting to make peace with him. Hogan had plenty of reasons not to be the one to want to make the first step to reconcile. He sounded way more apologetic than Warrior did. Warrior acted as if he had nothing to apologize for when I'd argue his lengthy Youtube video was worse than anything Hogan said on the Warrior DVD or in his deposition. Agreed completely. I suggest people watch the YouTube video and see what Warrior said about Hulk. If someone did that to me, the last thing I'd want to do is mend fences. Hogan was actually the bigger man in that exchange, since (based on Hulk's account and the doc) Hulk was the one who approached Warrior, even when told by the office not to. I'm not sure if Warrior apologized about the YouTube video or not (that wasn't aired if he did) but that's ten times worse than anything Hogan said about Warrior publicly. It's not even in the same ball park, actually.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Aug 15, 2014 21:07:30 GMT -5
Eh, I don't know enough about the situation to condemn Hogan. If talking about Warrior upsets his widow, then Hogan shouldn't do it out of respect.
If we're going to talk about "could haves" then it's possible that Hogan could have felt like it wasn't his place to say anything considering the well-documented bad blood between the two. Maybe he felt that giving his condolences would seem disingenuous considering that they were not, by any accounts, friends. Granted, if that was his logic it's a little problematic when you take the reconciliation story into account.
And there's the simple fact that when it comes to death people react in strange ways. I honestly don't think Hogan's done anything wrong beyond perhaps being thoughtless.
It's also hard to imagine how a grieving family might react to things. I know that when my Father died, I would not have initially been happy if somebody he hated expressed condolences, no matter if they'd had a recent kind word or not. Later I would probably have appreciated the simple human decency, but in the wake of death emotions are often pretty raw and passionately irrational.
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Post by revolverjgw on Aug 15, 2014 21:42:18 GMT -5
I can't be the only one who initially read this as Dana White and wondered why he cared. I read it as Dana Warrior but my brain still processed it as Dana White, rationalizing it as a nickname or something, because there's no way a woman could have the surname Warrior, that would be ridiculous. It was... really weird for a few seconds.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 15, 2014 21:43:40 GMT -5
That's sad, as they really did seem to patch things up.
Eh, be a man Hulk, and respect Dana's wishes.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 15, 2014 21:49:01 GMT -5
Should Hogan have given condolences to the family after his death? Yes...
Should Hogan be allowed to talk about Warrior in passing, especially if asked about him? Yes...
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Post by bigjohnsons on Aug 15, 2014 23:34:32 GMT -5
Ghost of Ultimate Warrior vs Cyborg Hulk Hogan -Wrestlemania 31- BOOKIT -#9.99
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Post by JCBaggee on Aug 15, 2014 23:59:42 GMT -5
He didn't necessarily say anything wrong, but given he hasn't gone so far as to offer his condolences or check on the family, him going around talking about he and Warrior making amends and being friends again is probably re-opening wounds.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 0:08:07 GMT -5
I was in the greeting card section at Walmart recently and realized that Hulk Hogan can buy personalized cards everywhere he goes - "Happy Birthday, Brother!", "Brother: Congratulations!" etc., etc.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 16, 2014 1:36:27 GMT -5
I have this funny feeling if Hogan did send a card, people would bash him for sending a card to prove how awesome he was.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 16, 2014 5:02:36 GMT -5
Hogan conveniently made up with Savage just before he died, too
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Aug 16, 2014 5:06:41 GMT -5
Diggity damn Hogan, now you done set it off.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 16, 2014 5:08:48 GMT -5
Hogan conveniently made up with Savage just before he died, too Are you suggesting he's a serial killer?
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 16, 2014 5:12:09 GMT -5
Hogan conveniently made up with Savage just before he died, too Are you suggesting he's a serial killer? Haha no. Just not sure he's telling the truth about making up with Savage
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 16, 2014 5:16:37 GMT -5
Are you suggesting he's a serial killer? Haha no. Just not sure he's telling the truth about making up with Savage I guess we'll know if he is an angel of death if Linda and Bubba the Love Sponge stop saying shit about him and then choke on a taco.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 16, 2014 5:18:01 GMT -5
I guess I can see Dana's point here, wrestling is wrestling but that's her husband and father of her children so I can see why she'd be feeling this way. But she doesn't own Warrior and Hogan is as entitled to talk about him as anybody
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Aug 16, 2014 5:32:00 GMT -5
Not a surprise that people jump to bash Hulk here. The same people who call Chris Brown the scum of the earth but then turn around and find every reason in the book to justify Steve Austin beating his wife are likely the ones calling Hulk a ("C word") without knowing the man personally. Owen doesn't apologize to Austin for breaking his neck? "He probably didn't know what to say". I'm glad people can speak for Owen and justify his actions without knowing him personally, but take what a grieving wife says as gospel as long as it bashes someone they don't like. When Owen's wife bashes the WWE, I wonder if everyone jumps to her defense and bash the company? Somehow, I doubt that, and in that case the company actually caused the man's death. There was nothing negative said by Hogan here. The only negative thing that I heard was during that Warrior documentary where they played clips of his 2009 (?) testimony about the Warrior DVD where he said he thought Warrior was a flash in the pan. Otherwise, what negativity am I missing? Would everyone feel better if Hogan came out and faked cried ala Stephanie McMahon during a tragedy? So Hulk is not profiting from Warrior's death nor talking ill about him. He's simply answering questions that are asked to him. I'm not sure what the complaint is here. Edit to add: I don't have an opinion on this one way or another. From Hulk's point of view, he and Warrior were hardly friends so I can't imagine he had any sort of speaking relationship with Warrior or his wife/kids (maybe I'm wrong). From Dana's point of view, she lost her husband and her kids lost their father. If she wanted Hulk to call her or send a card, then she has every right to feel that way. If I could like this post 9 times, I would.
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Post by Boo! on Aug 16, 2014 5:42:47 GMT -5
Terry Bollea already got exposed in Warrior's Karma is Coming to Collect video, lol. "You know you're a real piece of shit, Terry. You're always...on the work. You're never out of character." Hogan would say anything to get a measly dollar. That's like being lectured by Donald Trump about the state of your hair.
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Post by audiencewatching on Aug 16, 2014 6:27:02 GMT -5
Warning him? Whats she gonna do, write mean things about him on the internet? lols
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