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Post by Lord Rahl on Aug 26, 2014 22:11:22 GMT -5
I was wanting to read the Civil War story. B&N has it on their website, but there's also a bunch of....I'm assuming side stories. Lime Civil war fantastic four, and Spiderman and iron man....then something called front lines. Are these side stories really necessary to readas well, or mmore like companion stories that add to it?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 26, 2014 22:30:10 GMT -5
nope. they rarely are. usually those books are just collections of the issues from those characters' on-going series that had stories that were tied into the main plot (quite often tangentially). Marvel does it all the time. it;s more "if you want to see how this character was affected in their own stories, read this" than "you must read this to get the plot of the main book".
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 26, 2014 22:33:54 GMT -5
Civil War had a few that were pretty important. A few major points happened in side books if I recall.
That said, Frontline was the best part of Civil War. I kind of detest the main series.
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Post by Lord Rahl on Aug 26, 2014 22:42:54 GMT -5
That said, Frontline was the best part of Civil War. I kind of detest the main series. Whys that?
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 26, 2014 22:54:10 GMT -5
That said, Frontline was the best part of Civil War. I kind of detest the main series. Whys that? McNiven's art drives me crazy a lot of the time. But more so they really took liberties with characters to make it work. Great concept, poor and stupid execution. I can't really say too much without spoilering like crazy But they turn some heroes in to straight up dicks.
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Aug 27, 2014 0:02:57 GMT -5
Save yourself the trouble and get Fables instead.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 27, 2014 0:15:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I wouldn't even bother with Civil War to be honest. It's not a good story. Good art by Mcniven, but that's about it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 0:55:20 GMT -5
One thing about Civil War, good story or not, is that it's been brewing for a long, long time. Cap and Iron Man had issues for decades and it came to ahead with the Kree/Skrull Wars and the distancing between the Avengers and the Avengers West Coast.
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Post by Lord Rahl on Aug 27, 2014 9:45:24 GMT -5
Stories that bad huh lol.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 27, 2014 9:51:51 GMT -5
Stories that bad huh lol. There've been worse, a lot of it is a ton of heel turns that people didn't want. Without spoiling much, let's just say the Marvel films SERIOUSLY saved one of the main Marvel heroes from being among the least popular characters in comics.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 10:07:41 GMT -5
Civil War was supposed to be just an Avengers arc originally - probably a long one, and with a lot fewer reprecussions all over, but one that would've broke up the team - until Millar (or someone high up at Marvel) suggested it be a major Marvel event. And thus, everyone and everything was affected.
I don't quite recall if Cap's fate would've been exactly the same, but Brubaker was always plotting his CAP run toward a change so possibly...
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 27, 2014 10:34:42 GMT -5
Stories that bad huh lol. There've been worse, a lot of it is a ton of heel turns that people didn't want. Without spoiling much, let's just say the Marvel films SERIOUSLY saved one of the main Marvel heroes from being among the least popular characters in comics. ... and in Marvel's eyes he was supposed to be the good guy in the arc.
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Post by Manute Bol on Aug 27, 2014 22:29:28 GMT -5
Read the Infinity Gauntlet collection instead.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Aug 27, 2014 22:30:58 GMT -5
Civil War had a few that were pretty important. A few major points happened in side books if I recall. That said, Frontline was the best part of Civil War. I kind of detest the main series. Frontline's that one comic where a character chews out Cap for not liking NASCAR or American Idol, right? That was some stupid shit there.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 27, 2014 22:54:01 GMT -5
Civil War had a few that were pretty important. A few major points happened in side books if I recall. That said, Frontline was the best part of Civil War. I kind of detest the main series. Frontline's that one comic where a character chews out Cap for not liking NASCAR or American Idol, right? That was some stupid shit there. I think so. But that was the worst part of a pretty good series.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 28, 2014 10:04:50 GMT -5
Stories that bad huh lol. There've been worse, a lot of it is a ton of heel turns that people didn't want. Without spoiling much, let's just say the Marvel films SERIOUSLY saved one of the main Marvel heroes from being among the least popular characters in comics. As in, the one character whose actor got paid so much money for the movies that he could start up his own bank? I mean, it isn't as though the guy isn't a dick in the movies as well, he just is not a colossal one.
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Post by Crimson on Aug 28, 2014 10:18:04 GMT -5
Spider-man's tieins are pretty important since in the main storyline itself, he goes from being on one side in one issue to the other in the next.
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Post by Manute Bol on Aug 31, 2014 13:59:28 GMT -5
This thread prompted me to go back and read Civil War again and, you know what? It's really not that bad. Captain America and Iron Man are completely miscast as the leaders of their respective sides. Why isn't Cap supporting America's popular opinion? Why is Iron Man suddenly so pro-government? If you can get past that major misstep, the story itself isn't that bad.
I just wish more characters were essential to the actual plot. Aside from Cap and Iron Man, no character is really that important.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Aug 31, 2014 15:48:28 GMT -5
This thread prompted me to go back and read Civil War again and, you know what? It's really not that bad. Captain America and Iron Man are completely miscast as the leaders of their respective sides. Why isn't Cap supporting America's popular opinion? Why is Iron Man suddenly so pro-government? If you can get past that major misstep, the story itself isn't that bad. I just wish more characters were essential to the actual plot. Aside from Cap and Iron Man, no character is really that important. Captain America felt that people should be free to chose if they register or not, while Iron Man felt it was mandatory to do so. I get where Captain America is coming from because the Registration Act was for every superhero not just ones with powers, street level basic crime fighters would have to register like Jack Flagg
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Post by Manute Bol on Aug 31, 2014 23:11:15 GMT -5
This thread prompted me to go back and read Civil War again and, you know what? It's really not that bad. Captain America and Iron Man are completely miscast as the leaders of their respective sides. Why isn't Cap supporting America's popular opinion? Why is Iron Man suddenly so pro-government? If you can get past that major misstep, the story itself isn't that bad. I just wish more characters were essential to the actual plot. Aside from Cap and Iron Man, no character is really that important. Captain America felt that people should be free to chose if they register or not, while Iron Man felt it was mandatory to do so. I get where Captain America is coming from because the Registration Act was for every superhero not just ones with powers, street level basic crime fighters would have to register like Jack Flagg I know that, but wouldn't it be more typical of Captain America to honor what both the government and the vast majority of public opinion wanted? Wouldn't that be the "American" thing to do? And wouldn't Iron Man scoff at such a notion, and disagree with politicians like he usually does? I understand how the plot went down, I'm just saying each leader was terribly miscast and it would have been truer to their characters to have them leading the opposite teams.
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