JCBaggee
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Post by JCBaggee on Sept 12, 2014 2:39:45 GMT -5
Paying a referee to have plastic surgery to guarantee a title win. Heels just don't cheat like they used to!  |
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Sept 12, 2014 2:46:58 GMT -5
On the cheating thing, I don't think every heel needs it. Brock for example is so much more interesting as a monster heel right now than when he was cheating to beat Punk and Triple H. That was ho-hum, him annihilating Cena clean is compelling.
And for me that doesn't just apply to Brock. I love a very entertaining cowardly heel like Edge and Rollins, cheating makes sense for them. But there should also be heels who have hatable personalities while still considering themselves incredible in the ring, not thinking they need to cheat. And babyfaces can get over because fans want them to win, not just because they're portrayed as stronger than the villain. I think there's room for a bit of everything.
Something I'd like to see, more impromptu wrestlers getting on the mic. Little promos in the ring after a match, before a match, I always dig that stuff. Zack Ryder after a squash match crawls to a mic and says "Wooo.... wooo.. wooo *cough*, you know it."
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Post by sunnytaker on Sept 12, 2014 8:55:05 GMT -5
Refs enforcing and establishing rules so heels can get heat by cheating,run in without music playing,talent in the back not booked on the show should be in street clothes not in their gear. just once i'd like beatdown taking place and people are wonderign why no one is coming to help. then they cut backstage where a half dozen faces are all standing around in the gorilla position dying to come out then they cut away elsehwere and see one of the heel's buddies standing over an unconscious sound guy preventing the faces from helping by taking out the guy who plays their entrance music. |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Sept 12, 2014 9:51:20 GMT -5
Wrestlers not standing and staring at the isle when someone is on the ramp doing nothing leading to a roll up finish.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 12, 2014 10:35:51 GMT -5
The heel in a tag team just rolling out the ring when the face gets the hot tag and killing time to avoid the inevitable baby face tag-team comeback.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 10:50:34 GMT -5
I think it'd be a good character change for Reigns for him to have entertaining matches or segments.
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Sept 12, 2014 11:03:00 GMT -5
Wrestlers not standing and staring at the isle when someone is on the ramp doing nothing leading to a roll up finish. they ought to at leat occasionally have the guys decide there's no one coming out and getting pulled into a small package when he goes back to his opponent |
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 12, 2014 11:07:04 GMT -5
Play off the crowd more, particularly being allowed to acknowledge crowd chants on Raw (within reason). Luckily that situation is improving.
If during a multi-man match a wrestler is having a lay down for very little reason they should make it clear to the audience that they're supposed to be playing possum, the odd sneaky glance to the in-ring action would suffice.
Have a distinct look away from their in-ring gear.
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Post by mrjl on Sept 12, 2014 11:33:06 GMT -5
That's a baffling and ridiculous decision. Welcome to the "wonderful" world of Vince McMahon's logic. as though Vince didn't run the company for decades with that stuff allowed |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 11:33:22 GMT -5
Play off the crowd more, particularly being allowed to acknowledge crowd chants on Raw (within reason). Luckily that situation is improving. If during a multi-man match a wrestler is having a lay down for very little reason they should make it clear to the audience that they're supposed to be playing possum, the odd sneaky glance to the in-ring action would suffice. Have a distinct look away from their in-ring gear.Until I read this post I didn't realize how important this was to me. Austin with his jeans and t-shirts, Rock with his track pants or thousand dollar shirts, Macho with his flamboyant bandanas. All the big guys have that going for them. |
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SEAN CARLESS
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 12, 2014 17:54:27 GMT -5
Welcome to the "wonderful" world of Vince McMahon's logic. as though Vince didn't run the company for decades with that stuff allowed Your point? Because he's changed. He doesn't do it anymore. That's the point. He's removed a good lot of the elements that made him successful in the first place to reinvent a wheel that does not need reinventing. The funny thing about Vince is that he can get away with so much of his bumblef*** moves and decisions now because he lives off the fumes of an empire he built on better and correct ideas. If this was his first go around as a promoter today, with the ideas and presentation he prefers, he'd be out of business pretty quick. The fact that he has a built in baseline of millions and goodwill from a more popular and better received era is what allows him to follow his nonsensical whims today. |
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Sept 12, 2014 18:16:53 GMT -5
I wish heels cheated more often. Faces outside of the main event look weak because they're always losing cleanly. Batista and Jericho were talking on Jericho's podcast about that subject a couple of weeks ago. Apparently, damn near every heel tactic has been banned in WWE. They said shoving the ref into the ropes to knock a guy down is now banned, as are any and all variations of a low blow. I think next to go will be eye pokes, which at that point, heels are completely useless. A part of me just died. *Edit* I just wanted to say that I'm completely disgusted by this. |
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Sept 12, 2014 20:08:15 GMT -5
The heel in a tag team just rolling out the ring when the face gets the hot tag and killing time to avoid the inevitable baby face tag-team comeback. That'd be pretty damn great. Would fit the Vaudvillains to a Tee, have Cara make the tag to Kalisto, as he leaps over the rope English just slides out the ring. |
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Post by Adam Black on Sept 13, 2014 0:26:57 GMT -5
Interacting with each other via their characters not alignments.
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Sept 13, 2014 6:27:47 GMT -5
as though Vince didn't run the company for decades with that stuff allowed Your point? Because he's changed. He doesn't do it anymore. That's the point. He's removed a good lot of the elements that made him successful in the first place to reinvent a wheel that does not need reinventing. The funny thing about Vince is that he can get away with so much of his bumblef*** moves and decisions now because he lives off the fumes of an empire he built on better and correct ideas. If this was his first go around as a promoter today, with the ideas and presentation he prefers, he'd be out of business pretty quick. The fact that he has a built in baseline of millions and goodwill from a more popular and better received era is what allows him to follow his nonsensical whims today. my point is that is pretty unlikely it's some warped logic of Vince's and more likely people in creative just listening to the ever louder moral guardians. Vince may have final say but he doesn't oversee everything. Personally besides the piledriver and maybe the low blow I doubt he was the guy to originally decide they weren't going to do those particular things anymore. |
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Post by SeVeN: #TheBadGuy. on Sept 13, 2014 8:31:19 GMT -5
After an in ring beat down and wrestler A jumps to the outside, Wrestler B proceeds to chase them to the back or the brawl continues outside. I'm sick of the ropes acting as an invisible forcefield.
Or two wrestlers are face to face, they act as if they are about to throw down when the *heel* smirks and backs out of the ring. Damnit that's overplayed, just brawl, scuffle, something.
Or were in the same ring at the same time but instead of having a short *fight* now I'll beat your ...ASS...(gasp) in four weeks. Then it's just promos for the remainder of the month.
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