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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 12, 2015 23:20:25 GMT -5
Just think if Social Media was around If this had happened in the age of Twitter, it would have been a million times worse...
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 12, 2015 23:21:22 GMT -5
True. Bartman was lucky that twitter didn't exist yet
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 12, 2015 23:26:11 GMT -5
Jim Kelly is one of those people who should be on the list of guys you think of when you think of the Spirit of Football and what makes it so great.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 12, 2015 23:28:40 GMT -5
Excellent 30 for 30.
The Bills story is going to end with Chad Kelly going there and somehow winning a Super Bowl isn't it?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 12, 2015 23:30:12 GMT -5
Excellent 30 for 30. The Bills story is going to end with Chad Kelly going there and somehow winning a Super Bowl isn't it? I'm not even a huge Bills Fan and I would love to see that...
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 12, 2015 23:30:46 GMT -5
Just look at the three teams they lost to Giants, Redskins, Cowboys. So much talent Dallas- yeah. Giants and Redskins? Aging holdover teams from the 80s that got one last hurrah. Giants basically won in spite of their offense, Mark Rypien sold his soul to the Devil before that season. The aging geezers squeezed out one more ring before falling into the abyss.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 12, 2015 23:33:03 GMT -5
Just bad luck for the Bills. NFC was stacked those years. There a reason why people said the NFC title game was the real SB The NFC back then- other than San Francisco, they basically won in spite of their QB's. Hide the quarterback, just run run run. The Redskin WR's made Rypien look good, Aikman was overrated (ONE 20 TD pass season his career) and freaking Hostetler. Other than Montana/Young/Favre, it was an era of SB-winning handoff machines.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 12, 2015 23:35:18 GMT -5
It was the class of the RB's Aikman didn't have to throw it many times
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 12, 2015 23:46:15 GMT -5
But then again, Irvin only had two seasons with 9 or more TD's.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 12, 2015 23:47:57 GMT -5
And yet somehow all three in the HOF
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Post by unc40 on Dec 13, 2015 0:55:53 GMT -5
The Bills were not the first team to use the no huddle offense the entire game. The Bengals did it in 1988 and beat the Bills twice that year. I am surprised that the home game against the Broncos early in the 1990 season wasn't mentioned. Up until that game the Bills were still the "Bickering Bills" and were getting totally outplayed by the Broncos. Halfway through the fourth quarter the Broncos went for a field goal and the Bills blocked it and returned it for a touchdown. That was the beginning of the Bills scoring three touchdowns in 90 seconds and they came back and won. That game turned around the Bills season. The ass kicking the previous season was one reason, I thought Buffalo had learned about Dallas from that and would be better. Just a feeling I had, and it looked like I would be right in the 1st half, and then Dallas's O-Line took over. If you remember the Bills beat the Cowboys in the regular season They beat the Cowboys when Emmitt Smith was holding out due to a contract dispute and the Bills barely won the game at that.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 13, 2015 20:57:37 GMT -5
Just look at the three teams they lost to Giants, Redskins, Cowboys. So much talent Giants basically won in spite of their offense, Mark Rypien sold his soul to the Devil before that season. Yeah man. I watched him all year (Dallas fan but back then I watched every down of every game I could I was unspooled). I had never heard of him before then and never heard from him again. He pulled out a near perfect season out of thin air and it evaporated soon after his Disneyworld commercial stopped playing. Dude got a pile of money a yr later and never did a thing ever again.
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Post by BRV on Dec 14, 2015 21:25:11 GMT -5
Giants basically won in spite of their offense, Mark Rypien sold his soul to the Devil before that season. Yeah man. I watched him all year (Dallas fan but back then I watched every down of every game I could I was unspooled). I had never heard of him before then and never heard from him again. He pulled out a near perfect season out of thin air and it evaporated soon after his Disneyworld commercial stopped playing. Dude got a pile of money a yr later and never did a thing ever again. This chain of events was almost exactly replicated about 20 years later with Joe Flacco. Just think if Social Media was around If this had happened in the age of Twitter, it would have been a million times worse... I don't know if it would. Scott Norwood has received an insane amount of grief from Bills fans and NFL fans alike over the past 25 years despite the fact that the field goal attempt was far from a gimme. A 47-yard field goal attempt on grass that had been torn up for the entire game is not a chip shot. It's makeable, but him missing it is not unreasonable. I still think that Billy Cundiff's miss in the 2012 AFC Championship Game was the worst choke in NFL field goal attempt history and miles worse than Norwood. Sure, Norwood's kick was to win the Super Bowl, but Cundiff was attempting a kick that was 15 yards shorter on turf with no wind, to push the Conference Championship to overtime. Had Norwood gagged on a 32-yard attempt in Super Bowl XXV, then maybe you could argue he choked. But a 47-yarder is basically a 50-50 kick for almost every kicker in the league.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 15, 2015 8:01:43 GMT -5
BRV, almost. So far it lines up but until he is retired the final chapter is untold
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Post by unc40 on Dec 15, 2015 21:29:04 GMT -5
Yeah man. I watched him all year (Dallas fan but back then I watched every down of every game I could I was unspooled). I had never heard of him before then and never heard from him again. He pulled out a near perfect season out of thin air and it evaporated soon after his Disneyworld commercial stopped playing. Dude got a pile of money a yr later and never did a thing ever again. This chain of events was almost exactly replicated about 20 years later with Joe Flacco. If this had happened in the age of Twitter, it would have been a million times worse... I don't know if it would. Scott Norwood has received an insane amount of grief from Bills fans and NFL fans alike over the past 25 years despite the fact that the field goal attempt was far from a gimme. A 47-yard field goal attempt on grass that had been torn up for the entire game is not a chip shot. It's makeable, but him missing it is not unreasonable. I still think that Billy Cundiff's miss in the 2012 AFC Championship Game was the worst choke in NFL field goal attempt history and miles worse than Norwood. Sure, Norwood's kick was to win the Super Bowl, but Cundiff was attempting a kick that was 15 yards shorter on turf with no wind, to push the Conference Championship to overtime. Had Norwood gagged on a 32-yard attempt in Super Bowl XXV, then maybe you could argue he choked. But a 47-yarder is basically a 50-50 kick for almost every kicker in the league. Mike Vanderjagt missing a 46 yard field goal against the Steelers in the 2005 AFC Divisional Playoff game was a bigger choke not because he missed it but because he missed it badly.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Dec 16, 2015 0:50:31 GMT -5
Yeah man. I watched him all year (Dallas fan but back then I watched every down of every game I could I was unspooled). I had never heard of him before then and never heard from him again. He pulled out a near perfect season out of thin air and it evaporated soon after his Disneyworld commercial stopped playing. Dude got a pile of money a yr later and never did a thing ever again. This chain of events was almost exactly replicated about 20 years later with Joe Flacco. If this had happened in the age of Twitter, it would have been a million times worse... I don't know if it would. Scott Norwood has received an insane amount of grief from Bills fans and NFL fans alike over the past 25 years despite the fact that the field goal attempt was far from a gimme. A 47-yard field goal attempt on grass that had been torn up for the entire game is not a chip shot. It's makeable, but him missing it is not unreasonable. I still think that Billy Cundiff's miss in the 2012 AFC Championship Game was the worst choke in NFL field goal attempt history and miles worse than Norwood. Sure, Norwood's kick was to win the Super Bowl, but Cundiff was attempting a kick that was 15 yards shorter on turf with no wind, to push the Conference Championship to overtime. Had Norwood gagged on a 32-yard attempt in Super Bowl XXV, then maybe you could argue he choked. But a 47-yarder is basically a 50-50 kick for almost every kicker in the league. Also, Norwood was only one-for-five throughout his career for 40-plus FGs on grass. After SB25, it's one-for-six. What's overlooked was that the Giants that year had the best coaching staff (Parcells, Belichick, Coughlin, Crennel, etc.).
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 18, 2015 2:33:10 GMT -5
BRV: Harbaugh should have called a timeout before Cundiff's attempt. It felt like they rushed that kick attempt too quickly.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 18, 2015 7:36:25 GMT -5
BRV: Harbaugh should have called a timeout before Cundiff's attempt. It felt like they rushed that kick attempt too quickly. My memory is foggy, but I'm not sure he had a timeout left to spare.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 18, 2015 7:38:19 GMT -5
This talk of missed kicks in the playoffs and no mention of Gary "Haven't missed a kick all season" Anderson in the NFC Championship Game for the 1998 season?
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Post by sfvega on Dec 19, 2015 2:31:07 GMT -5
Anderson is the worst choke job ever by a kicker. 39 yarder, at home, in a dome, with a TD lead late. After being perfect all year. Total choke on a super makeable kick. That goes in, and it's the Vikings against Elway in what should have been one for the ages. Instead, it was a very one-sided, forgettable Super Bowl. Oh, what could have been. Friggin kickers.
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