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Post by Ron Woodsman aka Shempaholic on Sept 16, 2014 11:54:20 GMT -5
So Cena gives Heyman until halftime to produce Lesnar. Doesn't this imply in kayfabe that Cena was backstage watching Monday Night Football? Why else would he wait until halftime?
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 16, 2014 12:43:16 GMT -5
I find it funny that WWE is so blatantly booking their product around the NFL
Why not just move the show to Tuesdays? Why even bother competing with something they have no hope of overcoming?
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Post by Reflecto on Sept 16, 2014 12:43:36 GMT -5
There used to be two wrestling shows that drew monster ratings against Monday Night Football. At a time when MNF, not Sunday Night Football, was the home of the premier NFL game of the week. The NFL excuse is a very weak one. That was also at a time when MNF was not really a challenger to wrestling since it was on free TV, not cable (two different Nielsen ratings), and a time when the NFL hadn't exploded with the rise of fantasy (making it so NFL fans will literally watch any game, no matter who's playing, just to see how their team's stats are). Now- yeah, even a Lesnar/Cena payoff angle for NOC won't beat the NFL. Hell, WWE booking against MNF is at the point where they'd have to pull off something like "Austin/Hogan announce they'll finally wrestle tonight, then CM Punk returning and cutting a Pipebomb on both guys, before revealing his partners as Brian Pillman and Eddie Guerrero, who both reveal they faked their deaths specifically for this moment". And even THAT may not get people to switch over from MNF. |
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Post by Robbymac on Sept 16, 2014 15:03:21 GMT -5
There used to be two wrestling shows that drew monster ratings against Monday Night Football. At a time when MNF, not Sunday Night Football, was the home of the premier NFL game of the week. The NFL excuse is a very weak one. That was also at a time when MNF was not really a challenger to wrestling since it was on free TV, not cable (two different Nielsen ratings), and a time when the NFL hadn't exploded with the rise of fantasy (making it so NFL fans will literally watch any game, no matter who's playing, just to see how their team's stats are). Now- yeah, even a Lesnar/Cena payoff angle for NOC won't beat the NFL. Hell, WWE booking against MNF is at the point where they'd have to pull off something like "Austin/Hogan announce they'll finally wrestle tonight, then CM Punk returning and cutting a Pipebomb on both guys, before revealing his partners as Brian Pillman and Eddie Guerrero, who both reveal they faked their deaths specifically for this moment". And even THAT may not get people to switch over from MNF. More people watched Monday Night Football in 1997, 98, 99 than do now. The fact that it was on broadcast television meant it wasn't competing in the Nielsen ratings, but people still had the option of football or wrestling on Monday Nights. And far more people picked "wrestling" back then than do now. |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Sept 16, 2014 15:08:44 GMT -5
Is the NFL more popular now or has everything else fallen while they've retained their numbers?
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Post by BlahBlah on Sept 16, 2014 15:53:07 GMT -5
Is the NFL more popular now or has everything else fallen while they've retained their numbers? The NFL is more popular now than it has ever been. Its evolved into a 9 billion dollar industry... and growing. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Sept 16, 2014 16:40:14 GMT -5
Coincidentally, halftime of MNF is the only time I watched Raw tonight. Same. Followed the thread in WWE current, realized halftime was gonna sync up with Lesnar and Heyman (don't really care about what's Cena has to say) and flipped over |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Sept 16, 2014 16:46:22 GMT -5
Is the NFL more popular now or has everything else fallen while they've retained their numbers? The NFL is more popular now than it has ever been. Its evolved into a 9 billion dollar industry... and growing. Everything else is going down, NFL stays the same. In a new TV landscape that means they can charge way more for the same numbers thus revenues go up. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 16, 2014 17:25:18 GMT -5
Does anyone have any numbers showing that wrestling has ever outdrawn Monday Night Football?
In the late 90's, it was on network tv. I don't see wrestling, even as a cable juggernaut, beating it ever. I could be wrong; but I don't think I am. I tried to look up the specific numbers, but have had no luck thus far.
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Post by Robbymac on Sept 16, 2014 23:15:35 GMT -5
Does anyone have any numbers showing that wrestling has ever outdrawn Monday Night Football? In the late 90's, it was on network tv. I don't see wrestling, even as a cable juggernaut, beating it ever. I could be wrong; but I don't think I am. I tried to look up the specific numbers, but have had no luck thus far. It never outdrew them. That's ridiculous. MNF didn't have a negative effect on viewership back then though. The most watched segment in Monday Night Wrestling history (This is your life, Rock) took place opposite a Monday Night Football game. (September 27, 1999- 49ers, 24 Cardinals, 7; Raw drew an absurd 6.8 and Nitro drew a. 3.0) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 3:56:29 GMT -5
I don't think anyone in the thread actually suggested wrestling ever beat MNF.
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Post by Reflecto on Sept 17, 2014 11:44:28 GMT -5
Does anyone have any numbers showing that wrestling has ever outdrawn Monday Night Football? In the late 90's, it was on network tv. I don't see wrestling, even as a cable juggernaut, beating it ever. I could be wrong; but I don't think I am. I tried to look up the specific numbers, but have had no luck thus far. IIRC, the numbers for the "wrestling outdrew Monday Night Football" stem from one week, of a MNF preseason game, where the combined rating of Raw and Nitro was bigger- so all of it's kind of questionable. |
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