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Post by wildojinx on Sept 19, 2014 12:57:11 GMT -5
So is Texas considered part of the south or not? I've heard arguments for it being southern, as well as arguments for it not being part of that region, both geographically and culturally. So whats your verdict?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 12:59:24 GMT -5
Its part of the South West which I don't readily associate with the South. I would split the South in to South East and South West, as the regions are culturally different in many ways.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 13:07:34 GMT -5
Definitely Southwest.
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Post by thirteen3 on Sept 19, 2014 13:11:25 GMT -5
Yeah it was part politically part of the confederacy but it's definitely not culturally southern. (or geographically for that matter.)
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Post by The Captain on Sept 19, 2014 13:20:46 GMT -5
Texas is... well, it's Texas. It's a massive state geographically and there's a lot of different cultural overlap not just because of that, but also because of the state's history. Like the eastern part of the state is more South than the rest of the state as that's where a lot of Louisiana and Arkansas slave-holders and their slaves ended up to get away from the Civil War, along with the cotton plantations already there, so their descendants mostly settled there. Other parts of the state are much more South West or Great Plains.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Sept 19, 2014 13:24:12 GMT -5
Southwest, but I don't really consider that 'the South'. Their culture seems a lot different than what's going on here.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Sept 19, 2014 14:12:03 GMT -5
Texas is Texas. Texas and Okie are its own microculture.
However, FAR FAR East Texas like Vidor, Jasper,Silsbee, Newton etc are more South than Texas. And El Paso is more Southwest than Texas
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 19, 2014 14:36:34 GMT -5
Texas is Texas. Texas and Okie are its own microculture. However, FAR FAR East Texas like Vidor, Jasper,Silsbee, Newton etc are more South than Texas. And El Paso is more Southwest than Texas Yeah, Texas and Oklahoma are South Central, and take little bits and pieces from both east and west while having unique things to themselves. They really don't fit either south east or southwest perfectly on their own. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 14:44:40 GMT -5
Texas is Texas. Texas and Okie are its own microculture. However, FAR FAR East Texas like Vidor, Jasper,Silsbee, Newton etc are more South than Texas. And El Paso is more Southwest than Texas Yeah, pretty much this. Texas just is... |
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Sept 19, 2014 14:50:02 GMT -5
They're part of the south. If they are south west, they can chill with Arizona and New mexico. California is out if they're in.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Sept 19, 2014 14:50:53 GMT -5
Texas is Texas. Texas and Okie are its own microculture. However, FAR FAR East Texas like Vidor, Jasper,Silsbee, Newton etc are more South than Texas. And El Paso is more Southwest than Texas Yeah, Texas and Oklahoma are South Central, and take little bits and pieces from both east and west while having unique things to themselves. They really don't fit either south east or southwest perfectly on their own. Nor do they fit Midwest, either. Texoma is just its own thing. They are the true crossroads of America, combining environments, cuisine, culture, and ideologies from the North, South, East, West, and every other direction. |
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Post by The Captain on Sept 19, 2014 14:58:36 GMT -5
On that note, I really want to go to Austin one day. Just seems like a really great place to visit.
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Post by salsashark on Sept 19, 2014 14:58:54 GMT -5
Wait, what isn't South about Texas? A good chunk of its culture has always struck me as very Southern. I was born in Dallas to a taxidermist father, and the fact that taxidermy thrives there seems so Southern.
As someone who visits my old hometown often, and lived in Santa Fe, NM, for three years, New Mexico is VERY Southwestern. Wouldn't say the same for Central Texas and all the Texas areas I drove through from Santa Fe to Dallas. When I think of the Southwest, I think of certain food (like what Bobby Flay cooks), a tan-colored landscape, cactii, Native American tribes, mountains, places where movies are shot and where Hollywood types come to find second homes.
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Post by Glitch on Sept 19, 2014 15:03:39 GMT -5
This overlapping of different cultures in Texas is my guess as to why cowboys are so strongly associated with the confederate south(they are totally not the epitome of the south). Hell, we probably had more cowboys here in California than in the south back then.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Sept 19, 2014 15:06:54 GMT -5
On that note, I really want to go to Austin one day. Just seems like a really great place to visit. I went to Austin for a job interview once. Nice looking town. Didn't get to do any sightseeing, though.  |
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Sept 19, 2014 15:15:51 GMT -5
I don't know, but I am San Antonio born and bred, so I don't consider myself "southern" I count myself as a Texan.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 19, 2014 15:21:51 GMT -5
On that note, I really want to go to Austin one day. Just seems like a really great place to visit. I went to Austin for a job interview once. Nice looking town. Didn't get to do any sightseeing, though. Yeah, it's a really cosmopolitan city with lots of cool stuff to do. I'd love to especially go during SXSW. Nerd shit and music! |
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Sept 19, 2014 16:56:24 GMT -5
Texas is its own geographical region.
It has 'Southern' influences along East Texas (some parts of East Texas, like Beaumont, Texarkana, etc. make it seem like you're in the Deep South), but the state by and large is NOT Southern.
South Texas has a very 'Mexican' culture. North Texas is more akin to the plains. The Gulf Coast is like Louisiana and has a big Cajun influence. East Texas is Southern. West Texas (from Fort Worth to Midland/Odessa) and the Panhandle are very much 'cowboy culture'.
The weird one, for me, is El Paso. Geographically, it's part of West Texas, but culturally, it's NOT West Texan. It's more Southwestern (like Albuquerque, Tucson and Phoenix).
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Post by mizerable on Sept 19, 2014 17:32:23 GMT -5
It is without a doubt south.
In fact it was so "South" that it decided to surrender land to what is now Oklahoma, (hence Oklahoma's panhandle) to remain a "southern" state. Good ol' racism.
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Post by Hurbster on Sept 19, 2014 18:13:51 GMT -5
As a non-US person Texas is the very definition of the South.
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