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Post by Jiren on Sept 21, 2014 22:19:24 GMT -5
Nice to know Cancer has fans now. Those parents who buy their children Cancer t-shirts and those people who actively cheer Cancer should probably check their priorities. I mean he's cancer to talent
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 21, 2014 22:19:26 GMT -5
I really don't get why people are acting like John Cena won the championship clean. Brock Lesnar is still champion and he dominated for 80% of the match. Are we going to bash WWE for 2 minutes of Cena looking decent? This is the WWE Current board so yes.
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Post by Chip on Sept 21, 2014 22:19:53 GMT -5
I'm not defending it but Brock DID take four Attitude Adjustments, was in multiple STFs for a long time, took a Curbstomp and STILL walked away in better health then Cena did. Who was the last person to kick-out of a second AA even?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 22:20:07 GMT -5
I want everyone to stay away from Cena. I'm honestly really, really tempted to just plain stop watching any new Raws or PPVs he appears on. He's cancer I dunno about you guys, but this seems like a bit of an overreaction.
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Post by benstudd on Sept 21, 2014 22:20:47 GMT -5
Christ, it took them one damn show to kill the goodwill they had gotten from the epic Summerslam match. Even TNA could not do something so clausterf***s as this finish.
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Post by Jiren on Sept 21, 2014 22:22:16 GMT -5
I dunno about you guys, but this seems like a bit of an overreaction. I didn't actually mean that, for some reason it posted before I finished
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 21, 2014 22:22:33 GMT -5
I really don't get why people are acting like John Cena won the championship clean. Brock Lesnar is still champion and he dominated for 80% of the match. Are we going to bash WWE for 2 minutes of Cena looking decent? After Summerslam, doing nothing to improve himself after that, and being the most unbearable jackoff in wrestling for the past month?
Yes.
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Post by abjordans on Sept 21, 2014 22:23:32 GMT -5
I'm not defending it but Brock DID take four Attitude Adjustments, was in multiple STFs for a long time, took a Curbstomp and STILL walked away in better health then Cena did. Who was the last person to kick-out of a second AA even? Exact-freaking-ly. He looked freakish. Not to mention it was another great match between the two and it was a really good show all around. That was 9.99 well spent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 22:23:35 GMT -5
I didn't think it was as bad as some do. Brock came in overconfident after last month (which he should), while Cena came in with a new game plan. Brock still dominated but Cena picked his spots and made them count. Brock still should have won clean and let us move the f*** on from this but it is Cena and it won't end until someone rips the door off HIAC and distracts him from Lesnar. Everything about it worked, it just wasn't worth seeing. I would buy Lesnar being overconfident, it's not like he doesn't have a reason to be since last time all they both did was workout and prepare for Summerfest and Summerfest became the Night of the Dancing Brockplex. If they wanted to tell that story, I'd be game. But that didn't at all look like the story that was being told. It just looked like John Cena...somehow...became better and was able to hold off Brock for longer periods to the point of maybe beating him because....I don't even know. Again, what the **** did John Cena do now that was better than all that damn training he did for their previous match? I mean, they already have shit established. Literally the only way recent John Cena has ever had a chance against Brock is when he's using weapons. Maybe Cena can use a weapon? I don't know. All I know is I don't want to see Brock Lesnar/John Cena again.
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Post by ToyfareMark on Sept 21, 2014 22:24:40 GMT -5
Christ, it took them one damn show to kill the goodwill they had gotten from the epic Summerslam match. Even TNA could not do something so clausterf***s as this finish. If I had actually paid PPV prices for that one sided Summerslam main event, I'd be demanding 5 refunds. It should have jerked the curtain.
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Post by xCompackx on Sept 21, 2014 22:25:02 GMT -5
I really don't get why people are acting like John Cena won the championship clean. Brock Lesnar is still champion and he dominated for 80% of the match. Are we going to bash WWE for 2 minutes of Cena looking decent? After Summerslam, doing nothing to improve himself after that, and being the most unbearable jackoff in wrestling for the past month?
Yes.
I'll be the first to agree that the buildup to the match tonight was ass. John Cena did nothing to show that he was actually different for this time and came off looking like a huge douche. But as for the actual match itself? I really don't see what was wrong about it, espcially to earn "f*** WWE" comments.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 21, 2014 22:25:16 GMT -5
I dunno about you guys, but this seems like a bit of an overreaction. It's true. You can cut out cancer and remove it completely.
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Sept 21, 2014 22:25:42 GMT -5
the most unlikable piece of cancer Come on, man, don't call him that, B.A. STAR. But seriously, you can hate the guy all you want to but calling him cancer is completely unnecessary.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 22:27:20 GMT -5
Honestly, it doesn't matter how Lesnar came out of the match looking or how dominant he was. WWE has the narrative they want to tell - Cena had Lesnar beaten and Rollins screwed him over - and that is what they will present. That's what they were selling after the match ended and that's what they'll be saying on Raw.
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Post by Jiren on Sept 21, 2014 22:27:37 GMT -5
I dunno about you guys, but this seems like a bit of an overreaction. Very true. He's not cancer. He's clearly a Taurus. yeah He's Bull
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 22:27:59 GMT -5
This is completely and utterly ridiculous and this whole thread is such an overreaction. When did Austin or Hogan EVER get squashed liked Cena did at Summerslam? Hogan in 2002 doesn't count. Cena is supposed to be one of the greatest of all time. In kayfabe he IS at Lesnar's level. They bad an exciting, hard hitting match and the Rollins run in was really exciting. If Lesnar squashes Cena twice in a row, where do you go from there? I think you guys should chill out, you would enjoy things even more. We saw the unthinkable last month. Cena got squashed in the Main Event of Summerslam. It already happened. It isn't realistic to expect it twice. It isn't fair to WWE to do that twice. Brock is a damn badass, but people gave him a run for his money in UFC and even beat him. It is even more unrealistic to expect him to squash everyone in WWE than it is to have some good matches. Cmon. It isn't that he went from being squashed to putting up a fight, it's that he went from being squashed to completely having Lesnar at his mercy and dominating the last two or three minutes while acting not at all worse for wear. And to a degree that they ended a PPV with a bullshit DQ ending to build to next month thirteen goddamn years after WCW went out of business partially for constantly pulling that shit. Have him win with a fluke roll-up or have him come close to winning it and just barely fail, whatever, but they did it the single worst way possible short of actually having that fourth AA get the job done. And, "You guys need to have lower standards," is never a good counter-argument. I think the bigger picture, though, is in order for anyone else to have a fighting chance fighting Brock Lesnar we need John Cena to open up the laws of what we can expect in terms of hope spots and offense. If Brock/Cena II was the last time they wrestled and Brock moved on from there we can't reasonably expect WWE to book, say, Roman Reigns, or better yet Dean Ambrose to have a fair shot at him. I know in our minds it doesn't matter but the reality is that if Brock kills Cena with ease, in the "WWE Universe" no one has even a remote possibility. The novelty of that match is that it's so unlike any match from top stars in WWE's history to see someone like John Cena get tossed around like that. If that dynamic persists it becomes less special. If that kind of match continues with guys like Ambrose or Rollins it really wouldn't look much different from Lesnar's squash matches in the early days. It's very likely though, also, that Lesnar will lose the belt to Cena before we even get these other contenders to take a shot at him, but in case they're actually gonna try giving Lesnar some fresh meat it's important to have Cena open him up somewhat so he can believably have competitive matches with other guys.
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Post by benstudd on Sept 21, 2014 22:28:19 GMT -5
Christ, it took them one damn show to kill the goodwill they had gotten from the epic Summerslam match. Even TNA could not do something so clausterf***s as this finish. If I had actually paid PPV prices for that one sided Summerslam main event, I'd be demanding 5 refunds. It should have jerked the curtain. Well I think you are in minority, buddy.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 21, 2014 22:28:26 GMT -5
After Summerslam, doing nothing to improve himself after that, and being the most unbearable jackoff in wrestling for the past month?
Yes.
I'll be the first to agree that the buildup to the match tonight was ass. John Cena did nothing to show that he was actually different for this time and came off looking like a huge douche. But as for the actual match itself? I really don't see what was wrong about it, espcially to earn "f*** WWE" comments. The fact that they made it any sort of believable that he was going to win.
"WAS CENA GOING TO LOSE?? DID ROLLINS COST HIM THE VICTORY!?"
That's why. There is absolutely no reason and no way for anyone to believe after Summerslam, with no build, no change to his character or person, that he could believably have to be SCREWED out of beating Lesnar
It's Bullshit, some of the biggest Bullshit I've seen in wrestling in awhile...
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Post by benstudd on Sept 21, 2014 22:30:21 GMT -5
Honestly, it doesn't matter how Lesnar came out of the match looking or how dominant he was. WWE has the narrative they want to tell - Cena had Lesnar beaten and Rollins screwed him over - and that is what they will present. That's what they were selling after the match ended and that's what they'll be saying on Raw. And that's the problem, that's one bad cliche story. And it goes against what was established at Summerslam.
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Post by Jiren on Sept 21, 2014 22:30:30 GMT -5
Gimmick infringement? Nah He took it when beat him at Mania
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