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Post by The Trashman on Oct 13, 2014 19:01:20 GMT -5
Hulu Plus still runs ads, and its a paid service. And thats why I have Netflix.
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Post by Ken: The Hero of WWE on Oct 13, 2014 19:44:25 GMT -5
I have no problem with the WWE adding commercials to the Network. Should have had them since day one, IMO.
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Post by JIMBOB on Oct 13, 2014 19:55:41 GMT -5
I have no problem with ads the way they are now.
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Post by Throwback on Oct 13, 2014 20:37:59 GMT -5
so how long until they offer a "no ads" option if you pay more money?
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Post by Boo! on Oct 14, 2014 1:02:54 GMT -5
Hulu Plus still runs ads, and its a paid service. And thats why I have Netflix. So you want to watch stuff on Hulu but don't because of commercials so you sign up to Netflix which doesn't have any of Hulu's content? I can't believe you pay for Netflix just out of spite for Hulu having commercials, it doesn't make sense.
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Post by Reflecto on Oct 14, 2014 1:09:59 GMT -5
As long as the shows aren't broken up and I don't have watch a 40-second ad before a show, I'm OK. Even if the shows get broken up- as long as the advertisements come during natural moments in the video (during natural commercial breaks for Raw/SD/Nitro/COTC, or in between matches on PPVs)...and they STICK TO THAT FORMAT REGARDLESS (so- even if the playlist bar skips Chris Benoit matches, they don't cut a commercial right in the middle of a Chris Benoit match), then I'm okay with that.
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Post by Boo! on Oct 14, 2014 1:11:54 GMT -5
As long as the shows aren't broken up and I don't have watch a 40-second ad before a show, I'm OK. Even if the shows get broken up- as long as the advertisements come during natural moments in the video (during natural commercial breaks for Raw/SD/Nitro/COTC, or in between matches on PPVs)...and they STICK TO THAT FORMAT REGARDLESS (so- even if the playlist bar skips Chris Benoit matches, they don't cut a commercial right in the middle of a Chris Benoit match), then I'm okay with that. Now you mention it, I wouldn't be surprised if anything featuring Benoit didn't have advertisement on that particular video.
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Post by Zach on Oct 14, 2014 7:02:47 GMT -5
there were already ads on the network since day one. All the old Slim Jim commercials are still in there and I remember seeing one for Karate Fighters or some crap like that
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Post by kevin on Oct 14, 2014 7:41:41 GMT -5
I just hope they have some selection one thing OI hate about Hulu is I see the same commercial over and over. Watch 8 shows in a row and you will see the same commercial 8 to 16 times its infuriating. WWE will help by having way less commercials but variety is important here and i hope they have some.
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Post by Zach on Oct 14, 2014 9:06:30 GMT -5
I PAY for cable TV and now I have to watch 20 minutes of commercials! That's it....I am cancelling my cable!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 9:48:49 GMT -5
I PAY for cable TV and now I have to watch 20 minutes of commercials! That's it....I am cancelling my cable! Not comparable. It isn't like just one cable package is having you have commercials and others don't, it's the standard of a dying market. Netflix - which WWE themselves have constantly compared the Network to - doesn't have ads, nor do most any other video streaming services. There are some that do, such as Hulu, but it's not the standard, and in Hulu's case the content is able to be accessed for free and when you're paying for it, you're paying for the streaming, not the content, which is something they make abundantly clear to you. Granted, I don't have much of an issue with it myself as it is. If they start breaking up PPVs you're watching from the archives with a commercial every fifteen minutes or something then yeah, f*** it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 14, 2014 11:12:23 GMT -5
there were already ads on the network since day one. All the old Slim Jim commercials are still in there and I remember seeing one for Karate Fighters or some crap like that Oddly enough, I would be upset if they did NOT have those commercials. After a while, the outdated commercials become part of the allure. I'm kinda sad we havent heard Lord Alfred Hayes shilling for Mr. Freeze Freezer bars. I don't know why but that's the fist thing I think of when I hear him say Promotional Consideration Paid for by the following.
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Post by OldDirtyBernie on Oct 15, 2014 2:54:42 GMT -5
I don't care they've added advertisements, in fact if it helps them keep the service going, make the service better, and gets them more money for the overall product I support it. I think they've got all the research in the world to show them what people find acceptable enough to walk the line between having just enough ads on their pay service to make some extra money but not alienate most people and/or crossing the line into the obscene. I can certainly see where it's not appealing to some people and why they'd want to cancel and politely do so. I've seen a LOT of talk in various places, however, that shows just how entitled a lot of people THINK they should be and it's quite disturbing.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Oct 15, 2014 16:29:24 GMT -5
If a person is paying for a subscription service, wherein there was no ads, and suddenly, after they've gotten your money, they decide to change that, that person is ABSOLUTELY ENTITLED to complain. And your YouTube analogy is meaningless. It's not a pay service. Signing up after knowing there were ads (it doesn't matter when they are), and then complaining, I could see the argument. But its WWE who has altered the prior arrangement here without the paid customers knowledge, and after they have committed to the payment plan. That's scummy.
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Post by Boo! on Oct 15, 2014 16:56:40 GMT -5
Eh? Overreact much? Here's what you can expect: • No commercial breaks during scheduled programming • Limited advertising between shows • Occasional advertising before our video-on-demand content So basically like Youtube. God forbid you have to wait 20 seconds to watch a video. Good business move and literally has zero impact on whether I want to carry on subscribing or not. If a person is paying for a subscription service, wherein there was no ads, and suddenly, after they've gotten your money, they decide to change that, that person is ABSOLUTELY ENTITLED to complain. And your YouTube analogy is meaningless. It's not a pay service. Signing up after knowing there were ads (it doesn't matter when they are), and then complaining, I could see the argument. But its WWE who has altered the prior arrangement here without the paid customers knowledge, and after they have committed to the payment plan. That's scummy. How many people do you think signed up because there were no ads? You could argue some people sign up because of the colour scheme, or the font, or the graphics or the video player or the intro music or any number of different things. None of those reasons including 'no ads' would stand up as a reason why someone chose to subscribe as of itself. But the Network has subscribers joining all the time. How would they be allowed to introduce ads in your book? Refund everyone's remaining Network subscription, announce the intention and then ask people to rejoin if they thought it was okay? That's as ridiculous as claiming a cable network that decides to get a sponsor for is 'scummy' because people subscribed before the sponsor was announced. It's patently ridiculous to say that people would be entitled to cancel because they signed up prior to knowing that their favourite soap or day-time quiz show or even every programme on that network would have a special sponsor yet it's pretty much exactly the same argument you're making here. Sometimes the internet's 'wah, wah, wah' thing with anything WWE goes goes too far.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 16:57:59 GMT -5
If a person is paying for a subscription service, wherein there was no ads, and suddenly, after they've gotten your money, they decide to change that, that person is ABSOLUTELY ENTITLED to complain. And your YouTube analogy is meaningless. It's not a pay service. Signing up after knowing there were ads (it doesn't matter when they are), and then complaining, I could see the argument. But its WWE who has altered the prior arrangement here without the paid customers knowledge, and after they have committed to the payment plan. That's scummy. How many people do you think signed up because there were no ads? You could argue some people sign up because of the colour scheme, or the font, or the graphics or the video player or the intro music or any number of different things. None of those reasons including 'no ads' would stand up as a reason why someone chose to subscribe as of itself. But the Network has subscribers joining all the time. How would they be allowed to introduce ads in your book? Refund everyone's remaining Network subscription, announce the intention and then ask people to rejoin if they thought it was okay? That's as ridiculous as claiming a cable network that decides to get a sponsor for as how is 'scummy' because people subscribed before the sponsor was announced. It's patently ridiculous to say that people would be entitled to cancel because they signed up prior to knowing that their favourite soap or day-time quiz show or even every programme on that network would have a special sponsor yet it's pretty much exactly the same argument you're making here. Sometimes the internet's 'wah, wah, wah' thing with anything WWE does goes too far. Easy solution - "In six months, we'll be introducing ads." There, everyone who has an account will be up for renewal at some point by then and everyone who signs up now will know what's coming.
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Post by Boo! on Oct 15, 2014 17:04:30 GMT -5
How many people do you think signed up because there were no ads? You could argue some people sign up because of the colour scheme, or the font, or the graphics or the video player or the intro music or any number of different things. None of those reasons including 'no ads' would stand up as a reason why someone chose to subscribe as of itself. But the Network has subscribers joining all the time. How would they be allowed to introduce ads in your book? Refund everyone's remaining Network subscription, announce the intention and then ask people to rejoin if they thought it was okay? That's as ridiculous as claiming a cable network that decides to get a sponsor for as how is 'scummy' because people subscribed before the sponsor was announced. It's patently ridiculous to say that people would be entitled to cancel because they signed up prior to knowing that their favourite soap or day-time quiz show or even every programme on that network would have a special sponsor yet it's pretty much exactly the same argument you're making here. Sometimes the internet's 'wah, wah, wah' thing with anything WWE does goes too far. Easy solution - "In six months, we'll be introducing ads." There, everyone who has an account will be up for renewal at some point by then and everyone who signs up now will know what's coming. But ads change nothing. A TV company doesn't have to give 6 months notice if it wants to break up a larger commercial interval into two smaller ones in case there are people who specifically prefer four commercials instead of five nor do they have to give prior warning if a show wants to carry sponsorship buffer if it hasn't before, or if it reschedules a show in a different timeslot. You're allowed to make changes without giving prior notice. If they were withdrawing promoted content altogether, sure or somehow restricting pre-promoted access but they're not they're just playing ads in between shows. They already do now but they're WWE ads. Is a commercial for Wendy's rather than a promotional clip for Legends House really 'scummy'? The Network was never promoted at any time as 'ad-free' and therefore changing that cannot be deemed a breach of the agreement or an egregious change to the terms and conditions. If this was any other service in the world other than WWE there wouldn't be a sniff of a fuss about it. But because it's WWE there's instant outrage from some quarters.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Oct 17, 2014 10:03:35 GMT -5
Has anyone seen an ad yet? If so what for?
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 17, 2014 10:32:46 GMT -5
I've only seen it cut to a 5 second clip of the WWE logo... and then start playing.
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Post by 67 more on Oct 17, 2014 10:39:38 GMT -5
The only ad I've seen is for PureTalk USA, but it's been before every VOD video.
As I'm not in the US, I find it a bit pointless, but it's only 30 seconds.
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