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Post by Instant Classic on Nov 16, 2014 12:20:27 GMT -5
I like Alex Riley's commentary, especially when with Booker T.
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Nov 16, 2014 12:22:06 GMT -5
Since it's not JBL being a loud overbearing jerk of a human being, I can't get too upset about Alex Riley. He's just doing heel commentator things.
And knowing NXT's audience, bringing Hideo down a peg and calling him "kid", talking about "the big leagues~!" and "making it in the WWE" SHOULD get under our skin.
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Post by Andy Martin on Nov 16, 2014 17:39:48 GMT -5
Still better than Lawler , JBL & Cole Obviously this is all opinion, but for me it's untrue. He(and all the people doing commentary in NXT) are absolutely f***ing horrendous. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 18:07:50 GMT -5
Alex Riley:
Most hated man on FAN since Alberto Del Rio, until he slapped that guy then proceeded to wipe his ass with WWE's no-compete clause.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 16, 2014 18:13:24 GMT -5
Riley's fine.
WWE have always sold experienced wrestlers as being rookies when they debut
Daniel Bryan, Kerry Von Erich, KENTA etc...
Hell, when Ricky Steamboat returned in 1991, they never mentioned he had wrestled for them before
Their feeling, perhaps not unreasonably, is that the average WWE fan won't know about wrestler histories in indies, Japan and other companies, so they have to be built up from scratch.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 16, 2014 19:45:22 GMT -5
Riley's fine. WWE have always sold experienced wrestlers as being rookies when they debut Daniel Bryan, Kerry Von Erich, KENTA etc... Hell, when Ricky Steamboat returned in 1991, they never mentioned he had wrestled for them before Their feeling, perhaps not unreasonably, is that the average WWE fan won't know about wrestler histories in indies, Japan and other companies, so they have to be built up from scratch. Guys like KENTA and Bryan aren't newbies. Their prior history is a huge part of their WWE characters. Their past IS acknowledged and it makes Riley look dumb To have him discredit the indy/international talents when sadly, they've accomplished more than he has and are more famous than he is. WWE made a glaring oversight when they put Riley on commentary without actually letting him earn the credentials so that his opinion will be worth a damn. |
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Post by Starshine on Nov 16, 2014 20:52:24 GMT -5
I don't mind a guy playing a heel on the commentary table as its been a WWE staple for decades and has proven to work when done right. Problem is you early see it done right today.
My biggest problem with Riley's commentating is the extent of the absolute random rubbish he tends to spout off for no reason. It was even worse when Renee used to commentate with him and he'd come off like a sexual predator when talking to her.
The colour commentator should bounce off the stoik play by play guy by adding small quips and comments to create a flowing narrative and establish who's on what side in the match. Unfortunately he's so focused on being irritating the commentating loses all focus and effectiveness in being a supporting part in the story. That's the problem. He's trying to be the show instead of sell it to us. It's the same problem we had with heel Michael Cole.
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Nov 16, 2014 21:21:06 GMT -5
I don't mind a guy playing a heel on the commentary table as its been a WWE staple for decades and has proven to work when done right. Problem is you early see it done right today. My biggest problem with Riley's commentating is the extent of the absolute random rubbish he tends to spout off for no reason. It was even worse when Renee used to commentate with him and he'd come off like a sexual predator when talking to her. The colour commentator should bounce off the stoik play by play guy by adding small quips and comments to create a flowing narrative and establish who's on what side in the match. Unfortunately he's so focused on being irritating the commentating loses all focus and effectiveness in being a supporting part in the story. That's the problem. He's trying to be the show instead of sell it to us. It's the same problem we had with heel Michael Cole. It's almost as if the heel commentator is an outdated concept that can't be done well anymore and should be stopped. Hmmm. |
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Nov 16, 2014 23:52:04 GMT -5
He's f***ing awful as a commentator; he sides with the heels but sounds like he's only doing it because SOMEONE has to and it sounds that not even HE believes what he says.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 17, 2014 0:24:34 GMT -5
Riley's fine. WWE have always sold experienced wrestlers as being rookies when they debut Daniel Bryan, Kerry Von Erich, KENTA etc... Hell, when Ricky Steamboat returned in 1991, they never mentioned he had wrestled for them before Their feeling, perhaps not unreasonably, is that the average WWE fan won't know about wrestler histories in indies, Japan and other companies, so they have to be built up from scratch. Guys like KENTA and Bryan aren't newbies. Their prior history is a huge part of their WWE characters. Their past IS acknowledged and it makes Riley look dumb To have him discredit the indy/international talents when sadly, they've accomplished more than he has and are more famous than he is. WWE made a glaring oversight when they put Riley on commentary without actually letting him earn the credentials so that his opinion will be worth a damn. Their past is acknowledged in passing. Usually they'll say "international star" or something similar. None of the commentators in WWE really have credentials. Cole sucks. Lawler gave up years ago. JBL is shit. I don't even know who that guy on Smackdown is. |
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Post by Rave on Nov 17, 2014 3:10:48 GMT -5
I don't care what they do with Riley. He can wrestle, he can referee, he can be the timekeeper, he can even be Dunn's assistant. Just get him the hell off commentary. He's f***ing awful, and worse, nobody he's on commentary with can carry him worth a damn.
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Post by Reflecto on Nov 17, 2014 5:27:35 GMT -5
Riley's fine. WWE have always sold experienced wrestlers as being rookies when they debut Daniel Bryan, Kerry Von Erich, KENTA etc... Hell, when Ricky Steamboat returned in 1991, they never mentioned he had wrestled for them before Their feeling, perhaps not unreasonably, is that the average WWE fan won't know about wrestler histories in indies, Japan and other companies, so they have to be built up from scratch. Guys like KENTA and Bryan aren't newbies. Their prior history is a huge part of their WWE characters. Their past IS acknowledged and it makes Riley look dumb To have him discredit the indy/international talents when sadly, they've accomplished more than he has and are more famous than he is. Being devil's advocate for this, there's two benefits to that option: 1- You "can" make a case for selling guys like KENTA, Bryan, Devitt, etc. as newbies, simply because it is reasonable to sell it as "these people have had a lot of success internationally, but the WWE is the big leagues- it's a whole different ballgame here". Quite frankly, there is a world of difference beterrn WWE and any other promotion, and it needs to be accoundted for. 2- Quite frankly, WWE KNOWS you'll buy it if they pull this shit for a indy/international star. The YES! Movement may have come to a head this year, but make no mistake- it started the moment that Michael Cole started talking smack about Bryan on NXT. Part of getting new indy/international talent a buzz is making their fans bel;ieve WWE doesn't want them to succeed so they respond with "WE'LL SHOW YOU~ we'll MAKE this guy a star because he's so talented!" |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 17, 2014 5:48:30 GMT -5
Guys like KENTA and Bryan aren't newbies. Their prior history is a huge part of their WWE characters. Their past IS acknowledged and it makes Riley look dumb To have him discredit the indy/international talents when sadly, they've accomplished more than he has and are more famous than he is. Being devil's advocate for this, there's two benefits to that option: 1- You "can" make a case for selling guys like KENTA, Bryan, Devitt, etc. as newbies, simply because it is reasonable to sell it as "these people have had a lot of success internationally, but the WWE is the big leagues- it's a whole different ballgame here". Quite frankly, there is a world of difference beterrn WWE and any other promotion, and it needs to be accoundted for. 2- Quite frankly, WWE KNOWS you'll buy it if they pull this shit for a indy/international star. The YES! Movement may have come to a head this year, but make no mistake- it started the moment that Michael Cole started talking smack about Bryan on NXT. Part of getting new indy/international talent a buzz is making their fans bel;ieve WWE doesn't want them to succeed so they respond with "WE'LL SHOW YOU~ we'll MAKE this guy a star because he's so talented!" I wouldn't consider KENTA and especially not Devitt as someone who "finally" made it to the big leagues. NOAH and New Japan aren't lowly indies. And that's not how WWE should be pushing talent. WWE should recognize that the fans are behind a talent (regardless of their background) and put the machine behind them in response. And why bring Riley into it? Why destroy what little remaining goodwill with the fans he has left by pitting him against the indy/international stars in such a manner. It isn't fair to him either. |
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