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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 23:45:30 GMT -5
I think Adam Page has potential to be great. He isn't an obvious standout but I like his character and he plays it well as the entitled guy who thinks he's owed something as if he's a veteran while actually he's barely been around a year... he's closing in on the three year mark Well don't I look silly. Is it okay if I disregard his goofball in a baseball cap phase?
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Post by chazraps on Aug 21, 2015 0:23:43 GMT -5
I like Adam Page a lot, but he's in a thankless role. Going from the plunky kid dedicated to make it, jumping at the opportunity to be a young boy for The Decade and being mistreated, earning the audience's sympathy and just waiting for him to finally snap and strike back. Only, instead of rising above, he's snapped those heartstrings and become just as ruthless and callous as his tormentors.
Few could seamlessly pull off that transition like Page did, and it makes what he puts Colby Corino through all that much harder because on some level you have to know his character knows how unnecessary it is after what Whitmer put him through, but he's inflicting it because he had to do it.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Aug 21, 2015 7:42:51 GMT -5
I honestly think Page is well set in his current role. He and Whitmer are perpetual heat machines and Page's promo skills have come on leaps and bounds. Some of the promos he cut in his feud with ACH were excellent. I expect him to be a top guy in 2-3 years. Definite future World Champion.
But yeah Ferrara sucks.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Aug 21, 2015 11:31:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 18:23:09 GMT -5
THE RING OF HONOR NEW JAPAN ANNOUNCEMENT IS... by Mike Johnson @ 7:14 PM on 8/21/2015
Before the show officially began, Ring of Honor and New Japan officials announced:
*The two groups' agreement is stronger than ever.
*ROH will be running two shows in February 2016 with the ROH title defended.
*New Japan talents will appear at the ROH 14th anniversary show in Las Vegas this February.
*The annual May New Japan tour will be expanded to additional cities.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Aug 21, 2015 19:52:56 GMT -5
*ROH will be running two shows in February 2016 with the ROH title defended. It seems like something might be missing from this particular announcement
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Aug 21, 2015 19:53:45 GMT -5
Look who's in Philly tonight: {Spoiler}
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 21, 2015 19:59:16 GMT -5
I like Adam Page a lot, but he's in a thankless role. Going from the plunky kid dedicated to make it, jumping at the opportunity to be a young boy for The Decade and being mistreated, earning the audience's sympathy and just waiting for him to finally snap and strike back. Only, instead of rising above, he's snapped those heartstrings and become just as ruthless and callous as his tormentors. Few could seamlessly pull off that transition like Page did, and it makes what he puts Colby Corino through all that much harder because on some level you have to know his character knows how unnecessary it is after what Whitmer put him through, but he's inflicting it because he had to do it. Don't get me wrong, you guys are right. He's got a pretty good character and, like I said earlier, knows how to present himself as a force in the ring. It's totally believable that he started out as a babyfaced young boy and turned into a hardened man. That's really good storytelling, I can't deny that. He's a talented guy for sure. I'm just not a fan of his matches, I think is what this boils down. He's aight but for him to be pushed at the level that he's at and be having these kind of matches...eh. Just not for me. Call me spoiled but if you are gonna be put in this "crown jewel" type spot, you gotta bring it in every area and Page just doesn't do it for me in the ring. He's young so there's still plenty of room for improvement but right now? I'll pass.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Aug 21, 2015 20:29:44 GMT -5
results from Philly (via random guy on Twitter who was recommended by PWPonderings): {Spoiler}Pre show:
A. Jonathan Gresham beat Shaheem Ali with a submission
Episode 1:
1. reDRagon (Kyle O'Reilly & Bobby Fish) beat The House of Truth (J. Diesel & Donovan Dijak w/Truth Martini) after simultaneous submissions. Post match Jay Lethal confronted reDRagon.
- Silas Young joins in on commentary.
2. Cedric Alexander (w/Veda Scott) beat Dalton Castle (w/his Boys). Finish saw Silas Young grab the Boys when they jumped up on the apron, distracting Castle and allowing Alexander to roll him up for the win. Post match Stokely Hathaway came out and distracted Alexander, allowing Moose to run in from the crowd and spear him.
3. War Machine (Hanson & Rowe) beat The Kingdom (Michael Bennett & Matt Taven w/Maria Kanellis). Finish saw The Young Bucks come out to neutralize Maria after she prevented War Machine from winning, which distracted The Kingdom, allowing War Machine to hit their finish for the win. Post match the Bucks superkicked Bennett, followed shortly thereafter by The KRD running out and laying out the Bucks.
Episode 2:
- An inconsiderate asshole parked their blue Honda blocking someone's driveway, and an announcement is made for them to go move it!
- Cheeseburger comes out to give away free t-shirts, but is attacked by Brutal Bob Evans & ??, Bushwhacker Luke runs out to make the save
4. The Addiction (Christopher Daniels & Frankie Kazarian w/Chris Sabin) (c) beat The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson) to retain the ROH World Tag Team Championship. Sabin was ejected from the match after he tried superkick Nick but missed and hit Kazarian. The Kingdom ran out and attacked Daniels, while Maria distracted Matt allowing Kazarian to roll him up for the pin. Post match Nigel McGuinness came out and said he believes in clean finishes, and since The Kingdom screwed the Bucks out of their shot at the titles, he's adding them to the match at "All-Star Extravaganza VII" in San Antonio, and it will be The Addiction defending the ROH World Tag Team Championship against The Kingdom and The Young Bucks in a three-way match.
5. Jay Lethal (w/Truth Martini & The House of Truth) (c) beat Roderick Strong to retain the ROH World Championship. During the match Lethal tried to choked out Strong with his wrist tape, then when the ref went to through the tape out of the ring attacked him with the title belt. Finish saw Strong kicked out of the Lethal Injection, only to get pinned following a second one. Post match reDRagon came out to watch as Lethal and The House of Truth celebrated in the ring.
- INTERMISSION
Episode 3:
6. Michael Elgin beat Silas Young after a powerbomb
7. ACH beat Caprice Coleman after a superkick followed by a 450. Post match Steve Corino interviewed Coleman at ringside. Kevin Kelly then interviewed Prince Nana.
8. Hirooki Goto & Briscoe Brothers (Jay & Mark Briscoe) beat Kazuchika Okada & RPG Vice (Rocky Romero & Beretta) when Jay pinned Beretta after a Jay Driller.
Episode 4:
9. Matt Sydal beat KUSHIDA. Post match Sydal challenged KUSHIDA for a shot at the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship, and KUSHIDA accepts.
- The Decade comes out with BJ Whitmer on crutches, which earns him no sympathy from the fans. He start to cut a promo about how Adam Page should be in the main event, but is interrupted by Will Ferrara, causing further debate by FAN members on the two young ROH wrestlers.
10. Takaaki Watanabe beat Adam Page (w/BJ Whitmer & Colby Corino), Moose (w/Stokely Hathaway) and Will Ferrara in a Four Corner Survival match after pinning Ferrara. Post match Whitmer and Steve Corino get into a confrontation which had to be broken up by Nigel McGuinness.
11. Shinsuke Nakamura beat Adam Cole after a Boma Ye
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 20:34:27 GMT -5
Cedric Alexander is getting in shape! He obviously wasn't in bad shape to begin with, but he's slimmed down a bit.
The title matches were really good. Strong and Lethal have great chemistry.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Aug 21, 2015 22:19:59 GMT -5
Anyone going to the Atlanta show next Saturday?
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 21, 2015 22:32:04 GMT -5
Anyone going to the Atlanta show next Saturday? Right here, chief.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Aug 21, 2015 22:35:16 GMT -5
Anyone going to the Atlanta show next Saturday? Right here, chief. Nice got one of the last seats that are actually center in angle to the ring What do you think of the card?
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 21, 2015 22:41:59 GMT -5
Nice got one of the last seats that are actually center in angle to the ring What do you think of the card? I'm third row, not sure where exactly. But yeah, the card looks strong. Disappointed in no Dalton Castle, but still. That main event especially looks SICK. I'm also curious to see how Jay Briscoe vs. Moose shakes out. Plus, I'm sure we'll get some interesting "dark match" stuff. Last Atlanta card had the Washington Bullets, who I liked. Makes me wonder what we'll get here.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Aug 21, 2015 22:54:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 23:47:29 GMT -5
Cole/Nakamura was really fun. The 6-man was action packed.
Really fun night of wrestling. Should make for good TV.
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Post by Dukect on Aug 22, 2015 0:42:48 GMT -5
I know he's a heel right now but I feel that Cedric Alexander should be the one to take the TV title from Lethal and have good long reign until Moose takes it from him either at Final battle this year or the ROH anniversary show next year. Good idea or no
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Post by 4TheGlory on Aug 22, 2015 2:16:00 GMT -5
Nice got one of the last seats that are actually center in angle to the ring What do you think of the card? I'm third row, not sure where exactly. But yeah, the card looks strong. Disappointed in no Dalton Castle, but still. That main event especially looks SICK. I'm also curious to see how Jay Briscoe vs. Moose shakes out. Plus, I'm sure we'll get some interesting "dark match" stuff. Last Atlanta card had the Washington Bullets, who I liked. Makes me wonder what we'll get here. I really think this is Moose's "audition" for a main event spot. I'd be shocked if this had a clean finish going either way
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Post by saintpat on Aug 22, 2015 3:17:23 GMT -5
Anyone going to the Atlanta show next Saturday? I'll be there!!!
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 22, 2015 4:11:11 GMT -5
I don't feel strongly about Will Ferrara or Adam Page one way or another. But "sucks" in RoH is probably better most pro wrestlers on the planet. Hell, I wish some of the WWE wrestlers that I like could be as "shitty" as Will Ferrara.
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