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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Dec 10, 2014 16:15:14 GMT -5
For wrestling couples it can also get awkward when it comes to face/heel alignments. For example the Bella's are both heels right now (I think), while their significant others are firm babyfaces. Best case scenario is both Bryan and Cena both come off looking whipped for not trying to show their girls the error of their ways. Worst case scenario is it comes off that they're condoning their actions which comes off as ethically dodgy for perennial good guys. They haven't actually gone out of their way to mention Cena and Nikki in storylines, so they can ignore that if they please I guess. Brie and Bryan though? Well he's injuried while she's a heel (I guess she is...?), but when/if he comes back and she's still a heel, it's gonna be really kinda awkward for them to interact onscreen without them looking like a terrible couple. |
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Post by ICBM on Dec 10, 2014 16:21:37 GMT -5
Because then they're 'available' and you technically 'have a shot.' Read the Divas thread. Oldest marketing trick in the book. But it works on casual fans and non-smart marks |
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Post by Fauxnaki on Dec 10, 2014 16:22:12 GMT -5
I remember reading that's why most Divas do not have surnames either, to be perceived as being 'available'. Melina, Maria, Ashley, Kelly Kelly, Layla, Naomi, Aksana, Kaitlyn to name just a few. I believe JR was once scolded for saying 'Melina Perez' on commentary on an episode of SmackDown. Imo, The Divas would be more marketable if they had surnames. i think they need talent before they need surnames |
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Post by mizerable on Dec 10, 2014 16:29:46 GMT -5
I think its probably a mix of keeping them open for storyline possibilities, wanting to let them seem attainable, and also because marital status (especially to a civilian) typically has little if anything to do with the character they are portraying. I still find that to be silly. A lot of the male stars don't have storylines based around who they're dating, why should the Divas, which is a smaller division. Can't they find a better way to create drama without bringing in who they're dating, or do they think that's all that women are about? If you want to create role models for younger girls, you can find ways to do that without portraying them as prudes, sluts or psychos. |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Dec 10, 2014 16:34:29 GMT -5
This is common in entertainment. It's harder to do now in the age of the Information Superhighway, but was a time movie studios and record companies downplayed any relationship statuses of their stars in order to feed into the desire fans had for their favorites. Sometimes to present the star as innocent and virtuous, other times to keep a more "wild" star from seeming domesticated. Psychology of obtainable possibilities. This. |
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Post by CMWaters on Dec 10, 2014 16:41:23 GMT -5
Because WWE doesn't see tag teams as marketable.
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Post by Captain2 on Dec 10, 2014 16:43:08 GMT -5
Because then they're 'available' and you technically 'have a shot.' Read the Divas thread. Exactly. I think since her wedding my odds of getting Kaitlyn have gone from .5% to .25% and I just don't know if I'm willing to put in all the effort it'll take to get it back up to where it was. |
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Post by lesleymoon on Dec 10, 2014 16:46:18 GMT -5
I still find that to be silly. A lot of the male stars don't have storylines based around who they're dating, why should the Divas, which is a smaller division. Can't they find a better way to create drama without bringing in who they're dating, or do they think that's all that women are about? If you want to create role models for younger girls, you can find ways to do that without portraying them as prudes, sluts or psychos. I agree with you. The Divas, when they get a storyline, often revolves around a romantic entanglement of some sort. It can work, but to me its just lazy and unimaginative. There is little they can do with it that would be new or exciting. At least when Cameron and Naomi broke up it was because of ego and professional jealousy and not a man. On the other hand, I don't mind (so far!) the Naomi/Jimmy Uso/Miz story, mostly because its shining a light on an underutilized performer in Naomi, and giving Jimmy an opportunity to show his personality. I've always said the ladies should be booked just like the men in that, they want to fight each other for the reasons the men do, to see who is better, because one performer is jealous of another, or one just doesn't like the other (for reasons that aren't superficial) |
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Post by 4real on Dec 10, 2014 16:55:38 GMT -5
For wrestling couples it can also get awkward when it comes to face/heel alignments. For example the Bella's are both heels right now (I think), while their significant others are firm babyfaces. Best case scenario is both Bryan and Cena both come off looking whipped for not trying to show their girls the error of their ways. Worst case scenario is it comes off that they're condoning their actions which comes off as ethically dodgy for perennial good guys. That's what's annoyed me about the Brie heel turn. Daniel Bryan was even on RAW 2 weeks ago the night after Brie turned heel by recycling the WMania 28 finish but it wasn't mentioned about Bryan's reaction or anything. That's why I still think the heel turn is a red herring. |
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Post by Duke Delicious on Dec 10, 2014 18:14:49 GMT -5
They want this and then have a show in the form of Total Divas that shows the exact opposite.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Dec 10, 2014 18:19:49 GMT -5
IIRC, this man LITERALLY has it written in his contract that he can't get married or something.  |
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Dec 10, 2014 18:22:17 GMT -5
Because WWE sees its fans as kinda pathetic.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Dec 10, 2014 20:47:09 GMT -5
It helps a bunch in storylines. The entire Miz/Uso storyline is rendered meaningless because everyone knows Miz is already married to a ridiculously beautiful woman already. If we didn't know that, or at least it wasn't such common knowledge, the storyline may have more weight. That's a small example, but look at the AJ stuff from before. We accepted Kane was crushing on her after their kiss because we don't think of him as married (he is, right?) If his marriage was common knowledge, it wouldn't have made as much sense. Not that it made any in the first place, but you know what I mean.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Dec 10, 2014 22:14:21 GMT -5
IIRC, this man LITERALLY has it written in his contract that he can't get married or something. Japanese promotions of all forms of entertainment can be very strict in that regard. Not just being prohibited from dating/marriage, but being photographed with the opposite sex in suggestive ways. |
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Post by Rave on Dec 10, 2014 22:16:46 GMT -5
Because WWE doesn't believe that people can separate character from performer and choose to take advantage of the hormones of their target audience. It's a really old strategy, and one with a good chance of succeeding.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 10, 2014 23:26:47 GMT -5
Homer: [excited] Wait till I tell Marge!
Nigel: [with consternation] Oh, yes...Bouffant Betty. Well, I would
prefer if we kept your marriage a secret. You see, a lot of
women are going to want to have _sex_ with you, and, er, we want
them to think they _can_.
Homer: Well, if I explain it to Marge _that_ way, I'm sure she'll
understand.
[scene change to the Simpson home]
Marge: [cries loudly]
Homer: [trying to placate her] C'mon, honey! It'll only be until we
finish our tour of Sweden.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 10, 2014 23:39:55 GMT -5
Why,you ask?  "It's because you make little girls' 'ginies tickle! And when little girls' 'ginies tickle, I make money! Haha." |
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Post by thegame415 on Dec 10, 2014 23:42:02 GMT -5
Because Vince is still waiting for the return of MTV's Singled Out so he can send another diva on the show.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 11, 2014 9:51:17 GMT -5
It's not just a WWE thing. Beyonce, while still very popular, took a hit when she married Jay-Z with her male fanbase. A number of married rappers won't mention their wives in their rhymes. Tim Tebow dates women but his diehard fanbase wants him to be pure and virginal. Dude went to Florida and was a star jock. I seriously doubt he made it out pure. How many male fans will be disappointed when they find put Ariana Grande is dating Big Sean? The Jonas Brothers' careers suffered when they seen with women not their mother or teeny booper fans. People who are consider sex symbols are more valued and make big money when fans think they have a chance with them. IIRC, this man LITERALLY has it written in his contract that he can't get married or something. Japanese promotions of all forms of entertainment can be very strict in that regard. Not just being prohibited from dating/marriage, but being photographed with the opposite sex in suggestive ways. It's the reason why a number of joshi wrestlers retired in their primes for non injury related reasons. If you want to date and/or marry the opposite sex, you have retire first. |
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Post by MrElijah on Dec 11, 2014 10:37:26 GMT -5
IIRC, this man LITERALLY has it written in his contract that he can't get married or something. Really? I know Japan do things different but damn. |
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