Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 11:45:13 GMT -5
So, I've been meaning to sit down and watch Amazing Spider-Man 2 for forever - loved the first one but didn't get the chance to see the second in theaters, and in my own time it's rare that I'll sit down and watch a movie - and I thought I'd take some notes on it as I go kind of like I did with the PPVs so why not. Mostly this is being done to share with a friend who's been eager to hear my thoughts but I thought I'd post them here too, maybe stir up some discussion.
And yeah, I intend to get back to the PPV thing eventually. Right now I don't have access to my 360 because of reasons and my computer usually can't play the Network properly, plus I've just not been in a wrestling mood. I'll try and get back to them around the start of the year, give or take. That being said. . .
- Did they recast Peter's dad? I can't help but notice in the intro how they keep from ever showing his and Peter's faces in the same shot.
- I'll be honest, I really don't give a shit about Peter's parents.
- Seriously, why are we seeing this? Seems like a good way to just bitch slap the ambiguity the first movie built up on it. I guess it fits with that cut scene of Peter's dad showing up alive, though.
- Oh, cool, I've seen Dark Knight Rises too.
- Why the f*** was he having to hammer keys to get a seemingly fully automated program to run which clearly didn't have anything requiring any impacts? And why wasn't it running while the laptop was closed?
- I could've used without the first person perspective from Spidey's dick.
- That's some really bad CGI on the suit.
- This is why you carry your billion blueprints in a box.
- "Warning. You should stop stealing stuff."
- Christ, the warning should have been that these cops are the worst drivers in the universe.
- Is that bank tube holding some Flubber?
- Denis Leary is still the best part of the movie so far.
- "It's an honor to be giving a speech that'll be really ironic when I get bridgechucked."
- Jesus, someone with the last name Stacy is saying she knows she'll die one day. She kind of has it coming with that kind of tempting fate.
- What's with the custom decorated graduation caps?
- Ha, do like that they slipped that song in this movie. Was annoyed the first didn't have it.
- Well, that was a lazy cameo.
- It's sad that being a Spider-Man movie with that song in it Randy Savage can't show up.
- "Don't wish your parents were, though. They were dicks."
- Okay, that was actually the point, so curse my dumb joke.
- "Can't keep me away. I've gotta make sure the whole rest of your family dies."
- Okay, once was effective. Seeing Ghost Denis Leary twice inside of five minutes is just silly.
- Speaking of, how is this movie nearly twenty minutes in and has no real plot yet?
- So just ignoring the satisfying note the first ended on to redo the Spider-Man 2, "I need to protect her," thing. Seems like giving where it's going it'd be more effective for him to not yet be hit with the guilt and for that to be in the next movie.
- Well, you, since otherwise your ass is being thrown off a bridge.
- What's with Peter's face there? He looks like a Muppet.
- So was there any reason that scene had to be in Chinatown?
- It'd probably help with the story they're seemingly telling to actually show Spidey having damaged, y'know, anything. At all.
- I think I could probably take a lot more of Sickly-Man, that's a funny idea.
- So we're just straight up redoing the last five minutes of the first movie as the opening act of this one.
- And also ignoring how May seems to have figured out the Spider-Man thing at the end of the first movie.
- I'm getting more and more convinced that this movie would be better if it were a straight dark comedy.
- Title drop!
- They really need to have Jameson in the next movie.
- So are we just to assume that Peter only washes the costume every couple of months or something? And why on earth would he wash anything with it?
- Man, can we just not turn him into Electro? Nerdy delusional Spider-Man geek is the best character in the movie.
- "He really wanted a spinning picture of Dr. Manhattan."
- So is it intentional that Harry kind of looks like a drug addict given his history in the comics?
- Way Norman's talking I'm guessing it is.
- I dunno, I think it's pretty miraculous that this one business has churned out at least three supervillains across two movies.
- Yay for accidentally flipping your dad off!
- I'm guessing either this movie or a future one will reveal a swerve on that Norman Osborn thing, since it seems pretty absurd to have the main villain of the franchise's one living scene being barely able to talk while lying in bed. That's like if they just jumped to Luthor having cancer in Batman vs. Superman. Which'd probably still not be the dumbest thing in that movie.
- They're going to do the Electro thing now? It's weird how this movie's both slow to get to a point and yet feeling way too rushed.
- So the way Oscorp produces villains is through extreme incompetence and negligence. Yeah, that sounds about right.
- Shit, those aren't eels, those are decapitated versions of the Goombas from the Super Mario Bros. movie.
- This Harry performance is just making me think, "Man, he's really similar to Penguin in Gotham. I wish he was playing this role instead, he's way better at it."
- I can't take him seriously with that stupid haircut and how scrawny his neck is. He looks like he's twelve. Voice kind of sounds it too.
- And the vote of no confidence happened two days later, right?
- Why on earth does he immediately recognize Peter? And if they're childhood friends why did Peter seem to know absolutely nothing about Oscorp in the first movie?
- If you're going to riff Peter's appearance, start at the stupid poofy hair.
- See, at least Peter has the sense to target Harry's stupid hair.
- The sunglasses, did Harry go blind between scenes?
- "I don't do Complicated. I'm much more fond of Sk8r Boi."
- Hahaha, yeah, there is nope everything will eventually be alright for Peter Parker.
- Uh, he just threatened everyone's jobs if they at all speak out against him, declared a random woman his second in command based on liking her, has no qualifications, and has that haircut. Vote no confidence, it won't be that hard to get him out.
- How long has he been in that morgue? It's been like a week best I can tell.
- Yeah, that's just straight up being a bitch. Who calls their ex up to meet them just to spring on them, "Hey, we should be friends!"? At least show up at his door or mention it in the call or something.
- The two do continue to have really good chemistry, at least.
- Something about Electro's design seems kind of racist to me. I think it's the lips, I don't know if it's on purpose but they look enormous.
- You know, this relationship stuff is being done well, but it's so blatant in disregarding the end of the first movie just to pad this one out that it's just hard to care. What exactly would be wrong with just making them a happy couple pre-bridge?
- Those are some really dramatic close-ups.
- You've already seen bullets don't work, why the hell are you trying to snipe him? Particularly while he's not doing anything?
- Yeah, sniping at him sure was smart.
- All of the screens immediately turn over to Spider-Man? Why? Isn't the blue demon murdering entire armies of cops with a wave of his hand more of a threat?
- Wait, is it still his birthday? All of this stuff has happened inside of one day? Bullshit. Like, there is no way. At all.
- Oh, cool, I've seen the ending of the Watchmen movie too. It'd be neater if he summoned a squid.
- Why the hell is Spider-Man your first priority?
- So first one was The Amazing Crane Operators, this one's The Amazing Fire Men. That or The Amazing Flying Cars given there've been like six of those.
- What's with the music numbers in this movie? It's a weirdly consistent thing so far.
- Still don't give a damn about his parents. Really see it as missing the point of Aunt May and Uncle Ben if he's endlessly moping over them.
- So Norman accounted for the possibility of Harry not only trying this injection at his desk but happening to drop it on a certain spot on the table?
- Backing up, how the f*** did Max survive turning into Electro anyway? The first movie mentioned how the cross-species animal stuff kept failing, it was implied Peter had had something done to him as a kid to allow for it, and Conners had to get the formula right for it to work which they said was destroyed. And even then if it were using that research why would it transfer through eels and grant abilities that eels don't have? I know it's comic book science but when you go into so much detail on it you have to be prepared to keep it consistent.
- Wait, he already found out a way to easily knock Electro out but he's still looking into ways to make him explode?
- So the whole point of that scene was that they wanted to try the poverty version of Tony Stark building the first proper Iron Man suit?
- That seems like the world's least practical employee database.
- Yeah, blocking an employee's attempts to search the records isn't going to raise extra suspicion at all.
- I wish he'd end up like his father, Harry is really damn annoying and I could live with him only being in a handful of scenes.
- And now they're sending security after her? Again, not causing themselves problems where it isn't necessary at all.
- Wouldn't it be easier to just leave out details of the easily-avoidable accident instead of deleting his files and actively hunting anyone who Googles his name?
- That's like their third scene together since the break-up, the f*** was even the point of it in that case?
- How on earth did that woman not see him do that?
- Blue veiny guy covered in machinery. Probably best to not have images that invoke Batman & Robin.
- I meant to bring this up earlier, but if they're going somewhere with them covering up Electro having had a surgery on him to make him compatible with the animal thing or something, then that just raises the question of why the hell Harry doesn't use it then. Unless they're doing something with evil council member guy not telling him to try and get him killed off which. . . Good plan given how it took like 40 years for that disease to kill Norman. Just no part of this disease or Electro's situation makes sense.
- Initiate emergency dunk tank procedure.
- He didn't take that shit down?
- "He's my father." Because screw his mom.
- "I can't hurt you with the truth. I love you so I can never tell you." "I love you too." "Okay, here's what happened." It is a very well done scene but when you boil it down it's really stupid.
- So are they doing the thing where May knows about Spider-Man or not? If they are then Peter is really dense to not be seeing it with how much she keeps seemingly hinting at it.
- Wait, in the span of like one scene Harry's already got sunken eyes and a growth on his neck? Norman was looking way better than that in those videos of him we were seeing.
- "Everybody's gotta price for the million dollar douche with the stupid haircut!"
- Why doesn't he have time? Seriously, Norman took ages to die from that.
- So Harry is quite a dumbass, isn't he? Why on earth doesn't he just get his blood type tested? And why didn't Peter do so before going to talk to him? "I can't give you my blood right now," is a hell of a lot less helpful than, "I'm A+, is that compatible with you?"
- Why is Peter going on about all of this in public?
- The one thing he needs to say is, "If you get cloned, make sure to remember to have your clone help be certain the Peter clone's dead so we don't get Clone Saga movies."
- Wait, Peter knows full well there's some big conspiracy in place but he still takes it at face value?
- I'll be honest, I'm kind of long past ready for this movie to be over so I can go to bed.
- Ravencroft? Please tell me the next movie's going to have Judas Traveller.
- How the hell did they know he was going to be in the middle of that so they could already have the guards matching there? Also, this is a ludicrously complicated plan and somehow with absolutely no proof of anything this guy managed to have him overthrown and apparently arrested. Like, seriously, how the hell did the guy have the authority to just up and do that on the spot?
- Now we have the movie's counterpart of the crane scene. A secret subway car lab hidden under the tracks? What? WHAT?!
- How on Earth has that computer been on for like fifteen years? There is no other way to interpret that. And for being sent in 1997 or so that's some damn fine video quality.
- Yes, of course the sickly, dying rich kid is able to take down a pair of guards alone with no effort.
- Convenient the video waited until the end to have picture quality issues and the sound didn't get screwed up while at it.
- At least Harry's no longer got the stupid hair.
- Wouldn't Spider-Man come regardless of what Max does so long as he does something? What does he have to gain from working with Harry instead of just killing him the second he's free?
- I'll grant, annoying and fake-sounding as he's been Harry does genuinely sound like he's panicking there. Well done.
- Seriously, they're not even trying to hide how much they bummed off Dr. Manhattan for Electro's design and effects.
- "I want to stop talking to you and move to the UK, because I love you." What?
- This guy has some balls to talk trash in the face of the electro god who just effortlessly murdered a man in front of him and has been ordered to do the same to him.
- Since when did he outright turn into Livewire?
- Were those Doc Ock's arms in the background? Please tell me they're not doing another Doc Ock movie.
- This dumbass knows this experiment has immediately killed almost everyone who's undergone it, but because it worked on one guy he's ordering someone he wants to kill to inject it into him? And the guy's hesitating instead of being delighted he's probably about to kill the guy pointing a gun at him?
- Yeah, that's what you deserve, dumbass.
- This scene's very kind to people prone to seizures.
- If that suit could heal someone who was clearly in the process of dying on the spot why the hell wasn't Norman wearing it?
- Man, he is practically browbeating her into sticking around to be bridge-chucked as is her destiny.
- "I'm just going to follow you to the morgue." Man, even if you didn't know the whole purpose of Gwen's character you'd see it coming a mile off the way this movie's gone about it.
- Gee, I wonder what it is. Wonder if it's to do with that supervillain who caused the last blackout.
- See, Gwen gets it.
- Yeah, it's urgent when there's a city-wide power outage to have a flashing warning light and a neverending siren.
- That kind of thing is why I prefer the organic webshooters, you don't have to keep finding ways to write around the obvious flaws with mechanical ones.
- The CGI on the Spidey costume still looks very fake. Am kind of digging the city of random glowy lights though.
- That was a pretty weak comeback.
- So how on earth is Peter not dead from that?
- Even Peter can't help but call her by her full name every time.
- Wait, those music notes are actually being produced by the impacts? That's the only way I can take Peter's line there and it just makes it go from cool to absurd in an instant.
- Framing the shot to show up a close-up of Electro's head and barely anything below the neck except an outfit that matches the ground just makes him look like Zordon.
- Get out of the way, Ghost of Denis Miller! And why are you smiling?
- Super convenient that guy was holding the key and it wasn't melted by the electricity or something.
- Let them impact, then you can have all kinds of cool foreshadowing images with a swimming pool.
- Wha. . . Why was that meter there?
- RIP Good Villain. Now to tidy up that whole Harry thing.
- Uh, with all of that destruction it seems awfully convenient that every bit of the power was able to turn back on.
- That face somehow looks dumber than the mask in the original movie looked.
- Somehow the acting is hammier too.
- Well, credit where it's due for not dropping her off a bridge, but same thing really.
- This place has a lot of gears that can't actually be necessary. Is this the clock tower from Resident Evil 4? Is Leon on a lower level flipping switches to move the bridge?
- Two things. One, didn't they mention in the first movie that the webbing is virtually unbreakable? Two, even with super-strength I'm pretty sure Peter's foot should be broken.
- Really? The web forms into a hand? Really?
- Well, at least they had the snap, that's cool.
- Look on the bright side, the Denis Miller ghost won't be lonely now while he haunts you.
- The acting is pretty damn good here but I really wouldn't have had her hang on for a minute. It's good she didn't talk but her managing to move on her own a little bit diminishes it slightly while the snap killing her on impact is more dramatic.
- And now the other Stacies become supervillains to try and get revenge on Peter.
- Actually, what was even the point of having Harry turn into a demented troll monster in this movie anyway? He had so little screentime and was beaten so easily he could've easily just walked up and ordered Electro to kill her, or even killed her without powers.
- Wait, wait, they had that guy in the shadows in the first movie turn out to be a character who's never even existed in the comics' canon and solely in a spinoff? That. . . Is unbelievably stupid and I have no interest in seeing where they go with it.
- That Rhino suit looks as stupid in the movie as it looked on the poster.
- Yeah, because five months later Spidey's disappearance is still news.
- Does everybody in Peter's life leave him a speech foreshadowing their death in a format where he can conveniently relisten to it?
- That suit looks even dumber in motion. If Spidey's not even been seen in months then what on earth is the purpose of having random supervillain attacks if they're only being done to try and kill him? Did they just so happen to time it for this exact day or have they been doing this regularly?
- Rhino's voice is somehow taking away any dignity the costume has.
- That kid has balls, give him that.
- And in the middle of that conversation Rhino promptly shot and killed them both.
- Or he blew up that car while Peter was pointlessly standing on top of it to lecture at him.
- I'm guessing there's not a post-credits scene so I'm turning this off now.
Yeah, that. . . That sucked. I love the first one and I've seen it more than once and I had high hopes for this one but. . . Man, yeah. Some stuff in it is very well done but this movie's more shaky reputation suddenly makes a lot more sense to me. I probably should not be noticing as many gaping plot holes as I was just in my first viewing of the movie. Think it'd have been a lot better if it were at least shorter but even then just a ton of stuff I have issues with. Mostly the pointless romance stuff that's transparently only there to pad the movie out because it all winds up meaning absolutely nothing even before Gwen dies, and everything about Harry is just awful and makes no sense on any level. A much more simple story just focused on Electro would have made for a way better movie.
And yeah, I intend to get back to the PPV thing eventually. Right now I don't have access to my 360 because of reasons and my computer usually can't play the Network properly, plus I've just not been in a wrestling mood. I'll try and get back to them around the start of the year, give or take. That being said. . .
- Did they recast Peter's dad? I can't help but notice in the intro how they keep from ever showing his and Peter's faces in the same shot.
- I'll be honest, I really don't give a shit about Peter's parents.
- Seriously, why are we seeing this? Seems like a good way to just bitch slap the ambiguity the first movie built up on it. I guess it fits with that cut scene of Peter's dad showing up alive, though.
- Oh, cool, I've seen Dark Knight Rises too.
- Why the f*** was he having to hammer keys to get a seemingly fully automated program to run which clearly didn't have anything requiring any impacts? And why wasn't it running while the laptop was closed?
- I could've used without the first person perspective from Spidey's dick.
- That's some really bad CGI on the suit.
- This is why you carry your billion blueprints in a box.
- "Warning. You should stop stealing stuff."
- Christ, the warning should have been that these cops are the worst drivers in the universe.
- Is that bank tube holding some Flubber?
- Denis Leary is still the best part of the movie so far.
- "It's an honor to be giving a speech that'll be really ironic when I get bridgechucked."
- Jesus, someone with the last name Stacy is saying she knows she'll die one day. She kind of has it coming with that kind of tempting fate.
- What's with the custom decorated graduation caps?
- Ha, do like that they slipped that song in this movie. Was annoyed the first didn't have it.
- Well, that was a lazy cameo.
- It's sad that being a Spider-Man movie with that song in it Randy Savage can't show up.
- "Don't wish your parents were, though. They were dicks."
- Okay, that was actually the point, so curse my dumb joke.
- "Can't keep me away. I've gotta make sure the whole rest of your family dies."
- Okay, once was effective. Seeing Ghost Denis Leary twice inside of five minutes is just silly.
- Speaking of, how is this movie nearly twenty minutes in and has no real plot yet?
- So just ignoring the satisfying note the first ended on to redo the Spider-Man 2, "I need to protect her," thing. Seems like giving where it's going it'd be more effective for him to not yet be hit with the guilt and for that to be in the next movie.
- Well, you, since otherwise your ass is being thrown off a bridge.
- What's with Peter's face there? He looks like a Muppet.
- So was there any reason that scene had to be in Chinatown?
- It'd probably help with the story they're seemingly telling to actually show Spidey having damaged, y'know, anything. At all.
- I think I could probably take a lot more of Sickly-Man, that's a funny idea.
- So we're just straight up redoing the last five minutes of the first movie as the opening act of this one.
- And also ignoring how May seems to have figured out the Spider-Man thing at the end of the first movie.
- I'm getting more and more convinced that this movie would be better if it were a straight dark comedy.
- Title drop!
- They really need to have Jameson in the next movie.
- So are we just to assume that Peter only washes the costume every couple of months or something? And why on earth would he wash anything with it?
- Man, can we just not turn him into Electro? Nerdy delusional Spider-Man geek is the best character in the movie.
- "He really wanted a spinning picture of Dr. Manhattan."
- So is it intentional that Harry kind of looks like a drug addict given his history in the comics?
- Way Norman's talking I'm guessing it is.
- I dunno, I think it's pretty miraculous that this one business has churned out at least three supervillains across two movies.
- Yay for accidentally flipping your dad off!
- I'm guessing either this movie or a future one will reveal a swerve on that Norman Osborn thing, since it seems pretty absurd to have the main villain of the franchise's one living scene being barely able to talk while lying in bed. That's like if they just jumped to Luthor having cancer in Batman vs. Superman. Which'd probably still not be the dumbest thing in that movie.
- They're going to do the Electro thing now? It's weird how this movie's both slow to get to a point and yet feeling way too rushed.
- So the way Oscorp produces villains is through extreme incompetence and negligence. Yeah, that sounds about right.
- Shit, those aren't eels, those are decapitated versions of the Goombas from the Super Mario Bros. movie.
- This Harry performance is just making me think, "Man, he's really similar to Penguin in Gotham. I wish he was playing this role instead, he's way better at it."
- I can't take him seriously with that stupid haircut and how scrawny his neck is. He looks like he's twelve. Voice kind of sounds it too.
- And the vote of no confidence happened two days later, right?
- Why on earth does he immediately recognize Peter? And if they're childhood friends why did Peter seem to know absolutely nothing about Oscorp in the first movie?
- If you're going to riff Peter's appearance, start at the stupid poofy hair.
- See, at least Peter has the sense to target Harry's stupid hair.
- The sunglasses, did Harry go blind between scenes?
- "I don't do Complicated. I'm much more fond of Sk8r Boi."
- Hahaha, yeah, there is nope everything will eventually be alright for Peter Parker.
- Uh, he just threatened everyone's jobs if they at all speak out against him, declared a random woman his second in command based on liking her, has no qualifications, and has that haircut. Vote no confidence, it won't be that hard to get him out.
- How long has he been in that morgue? It's been like a week best I can tell.
- Yeah, that's just straight up being a bitch. Who calls their ex up to meet them just to spring on them, "Hey, we should be friends!"? At least show up at his door or mention it in the call or something.
- The two do continue to have really good chemistry, at least.
- Something about Electro's design seems kind of racist to me. I think it's the lips, I don't know if it's on purpose but they look enormous.
- You know, this relationship stuff is being done well, but it's so blatant in disregarding the end of the first movie just to pad this one out that it's just hard to care. What exactly would be wrong with just making them a happy couple pre-bridge?
- Those are some really dramatic close-ups.
- You've already seen bullets don't work, why the hell are you trying to snipe him? Particularly while he's not doing anything?
- Yeah, sniping at him sure was smart.
- All of the screens immediately turn over to Spider-Man? Why? Isn't the blue demon murdering entire armies of cops with a wave of his hand more of a threat?
- Wait, is it still his birthday? All of this stuff has happened inside of one day? Bullshit. Like, there is no way. At all.
- Oh, cool, I've seen the ending of the Watchmen movie too. It'd be neater if he summoned a squid.
- Why the hell is Spider-Man your first priority?
- So first one was The Amazing Crane Operators, this one's The Amazing Fire Men. That or The Amazing Flying Cars given there've been like six of those.
- What's with the music numbers in this movie? It's a weirdly consistent thing so far.
- Still don't give a damn about his parents. Really see it as missing the point of Aunt May and Uncle Ben if he's endlessly moping over them.
- So Norman accounted for the possibility of Harry not only trying this injection at his desk but happening to drop it on a certain spot on the table?
- Backing up, how the f*** did Max survive turning into Electro anyway? The first movie mentioned how the cross-species animal stuff kept failing, it was implied Peter had had something done to him as a kid to allow for it, and Conners had to get the formula right for it to work which they said was destroyed. And even then if it were using that research why would it transfer through eels and grant abilities that eels don't have? I know it's comic book science but when you go into so much detail on it you have to be prepared to keep it consistent.
- Wait, he already found out a way to easily knock Electro out but he's still looking into ways to make him explode?
- So the whole point of that scene was that they wanted to try the poverty version of Tony Stark building the first proper Iron Man suit?
- That seems like the world's least practical employee database.
- Yeah, blocking an employee's attempts to search the records isn't going to raise extra suspicion at all.
- I wish he'd end up like his father, Harry is really damn annoying and I could live with him only being in a handful of scenes.
- And now they're sending security after her? Again, not causing themselves problems where it isn't necessary at all.
- Wouldn't it be easier to just leave out details of the easily-avoidable accident instead of deleting his files and actively hunting anyone who Googles his name?
- That's like their third scene together since the break-up, the f*** was even the point of it in that case?
- How on earth did that woman not see him do that?
- Blue veiny guy covered in machinery. Probably best to not have images that invoke Batman & Robin.
- I meant to bring this up earlier, but if they're going somewhere with them covering up Electro having had a surgery on him to make him compatible with the animal thing or something, then that just raises the question of why the hell Harry doesn't use it then. Unless they're doing something with evil council member guy not telling him to try and get him killed off which. . . Good plan given how it took like 40 years for that disease to kill Norman. Just no part of this disease or Electro's situation makes sense.
- Initiate emergency dunk tank procedure.
- He didn't take that shit down?
- "He's my father." Because screw his mom.
- "I can't hurt you with the truth. I love you so I can never tell you." "I love you too." "Okay, here's what happened." It is a very well done scene but when you boil it down it's really stupid.
- So are they doing the thing where May knows about Spider-Man or not? If they are then Peter is really dense to not be seeing it with how much she keeps seemingly hinting at it.
- Wait, in the span of like one scene Harry's already got sunken eyes and a growth on his neck? Norman was looking way better than that in those videos of him we were seeing.
- "Everybody's gotta price for the million dollar douche with the stupid haircut!"
- Why doesn't he have time? Seriously, Norman took ages to die from that.
- So Harry is quite a dumbass, isn't he? Why on earth doesn't he just get his blood type tested? And why didn't Peter do so before going to talk to him? "I can't give you my blood right now," is a hell of a lot less helpful than, "I'm A+, is that compatible with you?"
- Why is Peter going on about all of this in public?
- The one thing he needs to say is, "If you get cloned, make sure to remember to have your clone help be certain the Peter clone's dead so we don't get Clone Saga movies."
- Wait, Peter knows full well there's some big conspiracy in place but he still takes it at face value?
- I'll be honest, I'm kind of long past ready for this movie to be over so I can go to bed.
- Ravencroft? Please tell me the next movie's going to have Judas Traveller.
- How the hell did they know he was going to be in the middle of that so they could already have the guards matching there? Also, this is a ludicrously complicated plan and somehow with absolutely no proof of anything this guy managed to have him overthrown and apparently arrested. Like, seriously, how the hell did the guy have the authority to just up and do that on the spot?
- Now we have the movie's counterpart of the crane scene. A secret subway car lab hidden under the tracks? What? WHAT?!
- How on Earth has that computer been on for like fifteen years? There is no other way to interpret that. And for being sent in 1997 or so that's some damn fine video quality.
- Yes, of course the sickly, dying rich kid is able to take down a pair of guards alone with no effort.
- Convenient the video waited until the end to have picture quality issues and the sound didn't get screwed up while at it.
- At least Harry's no longer got the stupid hair.
- Wouldn't Spider-Man come regardless of what Max does so long as he does something? What does he have to gain from working with Harry instead of just killing him the second he's free?
- I'll grant, annoying and fake-sounding as he's been Harry does genuinely sound like he's panicking there. Well done.
- Seriously, they're not even trying to hide how much they bummed off Dr. Manhattan for Electro's design and effects.
- "I want to stop talking to you and move to the UK, because I love you." What?
- This guy has some balls to talk trash in the face of the electro god who just effortlessly murdered a man in front of him and has been ordered to do the same to him.
- Since when did he outright turn into Livewire?
- Were those Doc Ock's arms in the background? Please tell me they're not doing another Doc Ock movie.
- This dumbass knows this experiment has immediately killed almost everyone who's undergone it, but because it worked on one guy he's ordering someone he wants to kill to inject it into him? And the guy's hesitating instead of being delighted he's probably about to kill the guy pointing a gun at him?
- Yeah, that's what you deserve, dumbass.
- This scene's very kind to people prone to seizures.
- If that suit could heal someone who was clearly in the process of dying on the spot why the hell wasn't Norman wearing it?
- Man, he is practically browbeating her into sticking around to be bridge-chucked as is her destiny.
- "I'm just going to follow you to the morgue." Man, even if you didn't know the whole purpose of Gwen's character you'd see it coming a mile off the way this movie's gone about it.
- Gee, I wonder what it is. Wonder if it's to do with that supervillain who caused the last blackout.
- See, Gwen gets it.
- Yeah, it's urgent when there's a city-wide power outage to have a flashing warning light and a neverending siren.
- That kind of thing is why I prefer the organic webshooters, you don't have to keep finding ways to write around the obvious flaws with mechanical ones.
- The CGI on the Spidey costume still looks very fake. Am kind of digging the city of random glowy lights though.
- That was a pretty weak comeback.
- So how on earth is Peter not dead from that?
- Even Peter can't help but call her by her full name every time.
- Wait, those music notes are actually being produced by the impacts? That's the only way I can take Peter's line there and it just makes it go from cool to absurd in an instant.
- Framing the shot to show up a close-up of Electro's head and barely anything below the neck except an outfit that matches the ground just makes him look like Zordon.
- Get out of the way, Ghost of Denis Miller! And why are you smiling?
- Super convenient that guy was holding the key and it wasn't melted by the electricity or something.
- Let them impact, then you can have all kinds of cool foreshadowing images with a swimming pool.
- Wha. . . Why was that meter there?
- RIP Good Villain. Now to tidy up that whole Harry thing.
- Uh, with all of that destruction it seems awfully convenient that every bit of the power was able to turn back on.
- That face somehow looks dumber than the mask in the original movie looked.
- Somehow the acting is hammier too.
- Well, credit where it's due for not dropping her off a bridge, but same thing really.
- This place has a lot of gears that can't actually be necessary. Is this the clock tower from Resident Evil 4? Is Leon on a lower level flipping switches to move the bridge?
- Two things. One, didn't they mention in the first movie that the webbing is virtually unbreakable? Two, even with super-strength I'm pretty sure Peter's foot should be broken.
- Really? The web forms into a hand? Really?
- Well, at least they had the snap, that's cool.
- Look on the bright side, the Denis Miller ghost won't be lonely now while he haunts you.
- The acting is pretty damn good here but I really wouldn't have had her hang on for a minute. It's good she didn't talk but her managing to move on her own a little bit diminishes it slightly while the snap killing her on impact is more dramatic.
- And now the other Stacies become supervillains to try and get revenge on Peter.
- Actually, what was even the point of having Harry turn into a demented troll monster in this movie anyway? He had so little screentime and was beaten so easily he could've easily just walked up and ordered Electro to kill her, or even killed her without powers.
- Wait, wait, they had that guy in the shadows in the first movie turn out to be a character who's never even existed in the comics' canon and solely in a spinoff? That. . . Is unbelievably stupid and I have no interest in seeing where they go with it.
- That Rhino suit looks as stupid in the movie as it looked on the poster.
- Yeah, because five months later Spidey's disappearance is still news.
- Does everybody in Peter's life leave him a speech foreshadowing their death in a format where he can conveniently relisten to it?
- That suit looks even dumber in motion. If Spidey's not even been seen in months then what on earth is the purpose of having random supervillain attacks if they're only being done to try and kill him? Did they just so happen to time it for this exact day or have they been doing this regularly?
- Rhino's voice is somehow taking away any dignity the costume has.
- That kid has balls, give him that.
- And in the middle of that conversation Rhino promptly shot and killed them both.
- Or he blew up that car while Peter was pointlessly standing on top of it to lecture at him.
- I'm guessing there's not a post-credits scene so I'm turning this off now.
Yeah, that. . . That sucked. I love the first one and I've seen it more than once and I had high hopes for this one but. . . Man, yeah. Some stuff in it is very well done but this movie's more shaky reputation suddenly makes a lot more sense to me. I probably should not be noticing as many gaping plot holes as I was just in my first viewing of the movie. Think it'd have been a lot better if it were at least shorter but even then just a ton of stuff I have issues with. Mostly the pointless romance stuff that's transparently only there to pad the movie out because it all winds up meaning absolutely nothing even before Gwen dies, and everything about Harry is just awful and makes no sense on any level. A much more simple story just focused on Electro would have made for a way better movie.
