TheDieselTrain
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Dec 23, 2014 17:30:18 GMT -5
Now we all know that they got their super pushes as the alpha females of the divas division because of who they get busy with in their spare time. Nikki is the head heel of the divas division and Michelle pretty much owned all the girls on SmackDown a few years ago. Who deserved it the least? Better all around?
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Lila
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Post by Lila on Dec 23, 2014 17:34:06 GMT -5
Michelle and I say that as a fan of hers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 17:44:52 GMT -5
McCool was better in the ring by a small margin, but Nikki is better at everything else.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 18:08:20 GMT -5
Since when the f*** did Nikki get an alpha female titles and title shot push that lasted for years like AJ Lee or McCool? I can't even remember what Nikki did before Brie started feuding with Steph in which Nikki acted as Bries heat magnet getting humiliated by Steph for months. Then she played campy heel and only won the title two months ago
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 18:11:56 GMT -5
Michelle is so far ahead of Nikki in the ring that they should not even be mentioned in the same breath.
As for everything else one can argue on behalf of the other like charisma , mic work etc meh.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 23, 2014 18:20:51 GMT -5
Michelle was pushed as THE DIVA constantly and consistently through her entire run (including being the first Divas Champion and the one to officially unify the title... even though Layla was the champion and not her.) Through out all of this the crowds DID NOT care at all about her.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 18:23:56 GMT -5
Michelle is so far ahead of Nikki in the ring that they should not even be mentioned in the same breath. As for everything else one can argue on behalf of the other like charisma , mic work etc meh. I do hate how the OP is implying that those two girls only got to the top because of who they are seeing. I wasn't a fan of McCool for the latter reasons you stated but I have to admit she was excellent in the ring and seemed to get better every week and picked up on the things. McCool was pretty much the divas version of Orton and Sheamus of not the most popular or overall the complete package guys on the roster but WWE loves them for quickly mastering the WWE style in the ring and being easy to coach/work with which is why McCool got the super push most likely
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 23, 2014 18:24:05 GMT -5
Michelle got better and is one of the few models who ended up showing up and getting better. I remember reading and hearing about how she would always work to get better, and did. Nikki Bella got better, but McCool did it in less time and was still better then Nikki ever could be. Plus, Michelle was a better promo and got some decent heat.
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Post by PKO on Dec 23, 2014 18:27:05 GMT -5
Nikki is getting screwed if this is her nepotistic super push. It's not even a drop in the ocean compared to McCool.
McCool was very good in the ring, but had the charisma of soggy bread* and fans didn't care after multiple attempts and years of trying.
Nikki's solid but unremarkable in the ring, but better in every other respect. And fans react to her.
*sorry to insult soggy bread like that
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 23, 2014 18:31:26 GMT -5
Nikki is over, has continued to improve and had only received a "super push" this year. This hardly seems fair
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 23, 2014 18:42:49 GMT -5
Also I am going to take a guess that if Michelle wasn't Taker's girlfriend/wife she would have been demoted to random 6 man tag diva after failing to get over as a "lovin' life" face... or potentially released even before that when the Teacher's pets failed.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 23, 2014 19:59:39 GMT -5
Other: Stephanie McMahon. She marries Triple H and suddenly becomes principal owner of WWE? Talk about marrying up the ladder.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Dec 24, 2014 5:08:02 GMT -5
McCool kept getting better and better as she went along. Don't get the hate for her she was a good worker. I don't have a problem with Nikki either for that matter.
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Post by Abdullah on Dec 24, 2014 6:26:11 GMT -5
Also I am going to take a guess that if Michelle wasn't Taker's girlfriend/wife she would have been demoted to random 6 man tag diva after failing to get over as a "lovin' life" face... or potentially released even before that when the Teacher's pets failed. After seeing how WWE treats AJ and the Bellas, I've come around to thinking that WWE gave McCool material because they liked her, not because of who she was with, for better or worse. I remember she even had her own writer. Their top divas now are with top guys and it seems to mean nothing.
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Post by celticjobber on Dec 24, 2014 6:33:49 GMT -5
Also I am going to take a guess that if Michelle wasn't Taker's girlfriend/wife she would have been demoted to random 6 man tag diva after failing to get over as a "lovin' life" face... or potentially released even before that when the Teacher's pets failed. I've heard that she was very well-liked by many backstage in WWE, so it's quite possible she would've had a pretty big push regardless of Taker.
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Post by berlynwright on Dec 24, 2014 6:34:28 GMT -5
ive always had respect for McCool. for the amount of hate she had on net and considering she could just said f this i'm with Taker anyway, she kept improving on ring. By the time she left the company she was easily one of best divas in terms of ring-work.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 24, 2014 6:43:35 GMT -5
McCool, she was just so crisp in the ring, and had perfect timing.
While Gail Kim and Mickie James may have been better workers, McCool was a better ring general/leader/carrier. She'd elevate someone who wasn't that good, and they'd have a good match. Look at her matches with Kelly, she led Kelly to good matches (as did Beth Phoenix). McCool was just that woman where it wouldn't have mattered where she went, the company would make her the workhorse of the division.
And dammit WWE, I'm still waiting for a Property of LayCool shirt or hoodie.
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